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Post Post #3975 (isolation #200) » Tue May 16, 2017 3:49 am

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In post 3972, PeregrineV wrote:It aggravates me that instead of scumhunting, there is a general consensus that I reveal my full role with a Serial Killer and a Mafia member still alive and in the game.

Please confirm that you (players I have identified as probably not mafia) want me to fully and completely reveal everything.
At this stage we are working on PoE. We want the list of people we're willing to lynch to go from 5 down to 2 or 3.

Scum want to hide in the lurkers/uncleared/nullish reads - so I want to have complete reads of everyone by the end of D5. Weirdly, they've kept the town PR's/town-confirmed player alive...? :shifty:

Can you find SK/mafia tonight or tomorrow?
If not, you might as well take yourself out of the lynch pool (and join Shos, Hikari Link and me in the not-going-to-lynch list for D5).

MathBlade is now begging for your death so something is being lost in translation if you're both town.
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Post Post #3976 (isolation #201) » Tue May 16, 2017 3:52 am

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In post 3974, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3969, Keyser Söze wrote:Does being divergent have to do anything with not being mafia/SK?
I replace in, and it was part of the role PM I received.

I don't think any of the flips have included the divergent information, but I haven't double checked.
You are aligned with the Allegiant, correct?

Without copy and pasting, please paraphrase how 'divergent' is part of your role pm.
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Post Post #3979 (isolation #202) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:01 am

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In post 3977, shos wrote:
In post 3969, Keyser Söze wrote:Does being divergent have to do anything with not being mafia/SK?
I dont get it - you do
not
know that you are divergent? Didnt you claim that?
No, you've been saying I'm divergent, but it is not mentioned once in my role pm.

Did someone confuse 'Dauntless' with 'Divergent'?
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Post Post #3980 (isolation #203) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:04 am

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I think only Wheme, you and PereV have claimed 'Divergent' status.
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Post Post #3983 (isolation #204) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:11 am

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In post 1888, WhemeStar wrote:Oh guys I'm divergent
In post 2142, WhemeStar wrote:Im not erudite, im not abnegation, im not even dauntless. I. Am. Divergent.
In post 3452, keyenpeydee wrote:WhemeStar was enjoying himself with developing new technologies for the rest of Erudite. But, he made a mistake staying late at night to improve and research to his newly developed technology.

He was killed.

Spoiler:
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Edith Prior

You are
Edith Prior
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Allegiant
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Edith Prior, formerly known as Amanda Marie Ritter, is the ancestor of Beatrice "Tris" Prior's father, Andrew Prior.
Allegiant Abilities
  • You will voice your concerns on the thread.
  • You will use the voting power to lynch.
  • You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
The Erudite Faction
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    Erudite
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  • You can talk with other birth-faction members using the Private Topic Day One until the end of Night One.
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Post Post #3985 (isolation #205) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:14 am

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In post 3478, shos wrote:
keyser is town

me and him are divergent
and as such are immune to *REDACTED*. perhaps this is why I keep surviving O_o scum may know this.
What made you say this?

Does divergent = town?

We've only seen one divergent flip so far (Whemestar-VT).

Does PereV claiming divergent intrigue you?
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #206) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:20 am

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In post 3986, PeregrineV wrote:I discovered I am not part of a single faction, I am divergent.

Or something, with more words. Probably a quote.
Sounds like non-alignment indicative flavor content to me.

@Shos - does your role PM mention on 'Divergent' sound like a film quote / flavor spiel too?

Is it actually not even game-related?
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Post Post #4001 (isolation #207) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:30 am

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In post 3992, shos wrote:Guys
This is really simple

No flavor
No shit

Did the mod pm you provately and say you are divergent or not? This is not part of your role pm.

LUV, it does
I didn't get this special private role pm mate.

The only flavor I got was to say I was the leader of Dauntless in my original role pm :cool:

Are you saying 'divergent' is
strongly
indicative of alignment? or but a mere role-modifier/hidden bonus?
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Post Post #4006 (isolation #208) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:32 am

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In post 3985, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 3478, shos wrote:
keyser is town

me and him are divergent
and as such are immune to *REDACTED*. perhaps this is why I keep surviving O_o scum may know this.
What made you say this?

Does divergent = town?

We've only seen one divergent flip so far (Whemestar-VT) [but NO MENTION of Divergent in his role pm].

Does PereV claiming divergent intrigue you?
@shos
Are you able to answer this?
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Post Post #4011 (isolation #209) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:36 am

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In post 4005, MathBlade wrote:Stop reading people for not following what you would do and start syncing with shos and Kelvin. They are IMHO both confirmed Town at this point. Yet no one is actually communicating with them.
I'm trying to filter out the non-alignment indicative flavor shit, with the tangible game-set-up related claims.

I don't want to lynch someone on flavor-inspired shit again.

I want clarity this time. No more fucking mumbling.
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Post Post #4015 (isolation #210) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:39 am

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In post 3993, shos wrote:This is what im talking about.

PV, please claim without explaining eveyrone what a
divergent bonus
is
@PereV


Yes, if you can confirm/clarify with shos that this 'divergent' status is town-alignment indicative/a pro-town feature in finding scum, share it with us NOW.


Right now, all I can see is a dead WhemeStar, whose Divergent bonus wasn't valid :lol:
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Post Post #4020 (isolation #211) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:44 am

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In post 4014, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4011, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 4005, MathBlade wrote:Stop reading people for not following what you would do and start syncing with shos and Kelvin. They are IMHO both confirmed Town at this point. Yet no one is actually communicating with them.
I'm trying to filter out the non-alignment indicative flavor shit, with the tangible game-set-up related claims.

I don't want to lynch someone on flavor-inspired shit again.

I want clarity this time. No more fucking mumbling.
What do you want clarified?
On one hand I have a dead WhemStar who was Divergent (nothing mentioned in his role pm).

@Keyen, correct?


Then on the other hand, I have shos (apparently TOWN CONFIRMED, who I must trust), who's saying it's actually game-related (a power bonus helpful in finding scum)... shos, who was also willing to town clear me for being divergent? (my guess).



Then in the middle we have pereV who claimed Divergent, but it sounds like it was a mere quote from the film about the character being divergent in his role pm.

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Post Post #4027 (isolation #212) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:50 am

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oh my god.

@PeregrineV, does the mention of 'divergent' in your role pm look like flavor content...

OR does it look game-related/role bonus mechanical etc...


Basically I want to see some consistency in all this secret role pm shit.
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Post Post #4029 (isolation #213) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:54 am

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Scum have kept the right people alive :giggle:
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Post Post #4030 (isolation #214) » Tue May 16, 2017 4:59 am

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I'm basically trying to find out if PereV's 'divergent' claim has some semblence/co-relation to Shos' (town-confirmed) 'divergent' claim.

This should have been a 2 or 3 post discussion. Not a 5 page essay.
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Post Post #4033 (isolation #215) » Tue May 16, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 4031, PeregrineV wrote:It's got both. Tells me I am, and tells me what is does.
Thanks for confirming.
Does (confirmed town) Shos want to carry out any further slip-test to verify PereV's 'divergent' bonus claim?

If in fact, it is a genuine tool versus both mafia/Sk, we are very unlikely to lynch PeregrineV today (without the need for him to full claim too).
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Post Post #4081 (isolation #216) » Tue May 16, 2017 10:30 pm

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Spoiler: set-up info and spec
DAUNTLESS
- Follower (Used on Srceenplay) [Keyser Söze, Lil Uzi Vert]
ABNEGATION
- Roleblock [Creature]
CANDOR
- Cop (used on shos) [Mathblade, Kelvin Smith, shos]
ERUDITE
- Vig (used on Mewtaph) [PeregrineV]
AMITY
- Priest [Gamma Emerald]

TOWN:SCUM

15:4:1

5 SCUM


1 Aristophanes, Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof (Evelyn Johnson-Eaton), was lynched D1!
2 Srceenplay, Mafia Neapolitan (Eric), was lynched D2!
3 Ircher, Mafia Bus Driver (Peter Hayes), was lynched D3!
4 Mafia


1 Serial Killer



15 TOWN


PR

1 Not_Mafia, Town Doctor (Andrew Prior), was killed N1!
2 Radiant Moonlight, Town Friendly Neighbor (Christina), was killed N2!
3 Elena Fisher, Town Factional Observer (Tori Wu), was killed N2!
4 Shos, Power Role (Character)
5 Hikari Link, 1-Shot Vig (Tris Prior) [N4: momo]
6 Keyser Söze, Power Role (Tobias Eaton)
7 PeregrineV, Rolestopper (Jeanine Matthews) [N1: Radiant Moonlight, N2: shos, N3: shos, N4: shos]
MathBlade, Ascetic Townie (Natalie Prior)


VT

1 Transcend, Vanilla Townie (Matthew), was killed N3!
2 Mewtaph, Vanilla Townie (Johanna Reyes), was killed N3!
3 Nero Cain, Vanilla Townie (Edward), was lynched D4!
4 WhemeStar, Vanilla Townie (Edith Prior), was killed N4!
5 Ramcius, Vanilla Townie (David), was killed N4!
6 momo, Vanilla Townie (Albert), was killed N4!
Lil Uzi Vert, Vanilla Townie (Marlene)
Gamma Emerald, Vanilla Townie (Uriah Pedrad)
Creature, Vanilla Townie (Marcus Eaton)
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Post Post #4179 (isolation #217) » Fri May 19, 2017 4:48 am

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I need to read the last 5 pages.
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Post Post #4186 (isolation #218) » Fri May 19, 2017 7:17 am

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In post 4184, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2324, Ircher wrote:Gonna say that regardless of what I flip, I think an SK is likely, and I wouldn't be surprised if Keyser is the SK considering how little he has done this game compared to usual.
I thought I posted this before. Is there no comment on this?
This is post-guilty WIFOM posting.

Sheeping flipped mafia-scum would be tactically unwise.

It does not not clear me of being mafia/SK nor should it condemn me being either.
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Post Post #4188 (isolation #219) » Fri May 19, 2017 7:49 am

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Lynching a player who Ircher says is a SK would be tactically unwise.
Lynching a player who Ircher says is mafia would be tactically unwise.
Ircher was finished and his posting was desperate/flailing scum/theatrical [and I'm sure he knew I was obv-town due to meta] he wanted to go out with fireworks and a parade but it got all urinated on by a solid lynch, to his dismay (he ended with defeatist poetry).
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Post Post #4191 (isolation #220) » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 am

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Yes the poems were extensions of his WIFOM-fuelled misdirection. If he'd pushed those lynches prior to his inevitable death they would have admittedly carried more weight.

FTR: Nero Cain (town) was scum-reading me hard for being the SK because I had (correctly) guessed the setup as early as D1. Zakk then hard defended me, saying that my setup spec was rational. Nero joked that Zakk was the real SK who knew that Nero was wrong about me. Ircher then came in with Keyser = SK (after he was hammered), obviously trying to feed Nero's misguided suspicion.
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Post Post #4198 (isolation #221) » Fri May 19, 2017 10:30 am

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If LUV is SK the only reason he's kept me alive is because I'm unlikely to ever vote for him this game (unless it was a question of me versus him).

I even softed/hinted that I had a role/character that would be a nightmare for scum at LYLO in the Dauntless PT, but SK-LUV still didn't NK me.

LUV has been fighting hard against the possibility of a SK even though the night kills suggest otherwise... He scum reads Creature/MathBlade.


SK-motivation in all this...?
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Post Post #4245 (isolation #222) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:38 am

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Spoiler: set-up info and spec
DAUNTLESS
- Follower (Used on Srceenplay) [Keyser Söze]
ABNEGATION
- Roleblock
CANDOR
- Cop (used on shos) [Mathblade, Priscila, shos]
ERUDITE
- Vig (used on Mewtaph) [PeregrineV]
AMITY
- Priest [Gamma Emerald]

TOWN:SCUM

15:4:1

5 SCUM


1 Aristophanes, Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof (Evelyn Johnson-Eaton), was lynched D1!
2 Srceenplay, Mafia Neapolitan (Eric), was lynched D2!
3 Ircher, Mafia Bus Driver (Peter Hayes), was lynched D3!
4 Lil Uzi Vert, Mafia 1-shot Strongman (Caleb Prior), was lynched D5!

1 Serial Killer



15 TOWN


PR

1 Not_Mafia, Town Doctor (Andrew Prior), was killed N1!
2 Radiant Moonlight, Town Friendly Neighbor (Christina), was killed N2!
3 Elena Fisher, Town Factional Observer (Tori Wu), was killed N2!
4 Shos, Power Role? (Character)
5 Priscila, 1-Shot Vig (Tris Prior) [N4: momo]
6 Keyser Söze, Town Loved (Tobias Eaton)
7 PeregrineV, Rolestopper (Jeanine Matthews) [N1: Radiant Moonlight, N2: shos, N3: shos, N4: shos N5:?]

MathBlade, Ascetic Townie (Natalie Prior)


VT

1 Transcend, Vanilla Townie (Matthew), was killed N3!
2 Mewtaph, Vanilla Townie (Johanna Reyes), was killed N3!
3 Nero Cain, Vanilla Townie (Edward), was lynched D4!
4 WhemeStar, Vanilla Townie (Edith Prior), was killed N4!
5 Ramcius, Vanilla Townie (David), was killed N4!
6 momo, Vanilla Townie (Albert), was killed N4!
7 Creature, Vanilla Townie (Marcus Eaton)

Gamma Emerald, Vanilla Townie (Uriah Pedrad)
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Post Post #4246 (isolation #223) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:41 am

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The presumed town-cleared players through investigation/mechanic/set-up still alive:
shos, Priscila and PeregrineV (
if all these players are town we can't lose
).


PoE: lynch is between MathBlade and Gamma Emerald.
In post 4102, Creature wrote:
In post 4097, MathBlade wrote:Assume LUV is scum. What is the game like tomorrow?
PoE
Gamma
, then Pere, then you.
In post 4103, Creature wrote:rn the only VTs alive are
Gamma
, LUV and me, right?
In post 4107, Creature wrote:I'll use it on the other VT (
Gamma
in that case).
In post 4157, Creature wrote:rn I could roleblock either LUV or
Gamma
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FoS: MathBlade
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Post Post #4248 (isolation #224) » Tue May 23, 2017 2:09 am

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In post 4247, Priscila wrote:
I do not believe that a loved townie exists in this setup.
Please explain how I am wrong
.
Only my flip will prove that a loved townie exists in the setup :giggle:

Today, my job is to make sure the 'confirmed/cleared' town are actually TOWN.

I.e it doesn't matter if I am lynched today or later, if the town-bloc are all town and my set-up spec is correct,
we have this
.



What's not to love though?


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I'll look firstly at
PereG
(protective role, who I thought was going to be killed N5).
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Post Post #4249 (isolation #225) » Tue May 23, 2017 2:32 am

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Question: why is the SK not concerned about killing the investigation PR and doctor PR?

I.e Does he think they are of no threat to him?
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Post Post #4250 (isolation #226) » Tue May 23, 2017 3:10 am

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In post 4201, MathBlade wrote:I just don't think VCA wise you both can be SK+scum.
This goes in MathBlade's favour though - why would scum-MathBlade want to rule out LUV and I being SK+scum with so many 'town cleared' players still alive? :lol:

He'd been better off hard pushing the 'LUV and Keyser are SK+Mafia' theory before LUV's flip.
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Post Post #4255 (isolation #227) » Tue May 23, 2017 3:42 am

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It tells me:

- The SK is not concerned about the 'cleared' townies
- the SK is not concerned about Shos' INVESTIGATION role neither the PROTECTIVE role.
- Creature was only a VT (and not even mass town read), so the SK feared a no-NK over everything.


Weak Tin-foil hat theories :

- there is scum in the set-up 'town-cleared' players (in which case scum have already won). In what world do the town cleared PR's survive to the end of the game?
- the SK (Gamma) wanted to town-clear himself after Creature's non-stop "I'm gonna roleblock Gamma tonight"
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Post Post #4258 (isolation #228) » Tue May 23, 2017 4:13 am

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In post 4251, shos wrote:what? Creature killed? wtf?
Do you have any more information? :cop:

I can remember you saying I had 99% chance of NOT being mafia, and 1% chance of NOT being SK - has this changed?

What are the SK%/mafia% for both MathBlade and Gamma Emerald (before and after N5)?
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Post Post #4263 (isolation #229) » Tue May 23, 2017 8:37 am

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DAUNTLESS
- Follower (used on Srceenplay) [Keyser Söze]
ABNEGATION
- Roleblock
CANDOR
- Cop (used on shos) [Mathblade, Priscila, shos]
ERUDITE
- Vig (used on Mewtaph) [PeregrineV]
AMITY
- Priest (used on Creature) [Gamma Emerald]

TOWN:SCUM

15:4:1

5 SCUM


1 Aristophanes, Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof (Evelyn Johnson-Eaton), was lynched D1!
2 Srceenplay, Mafia Neapolitan (Eric), was lynched D2!
3 Ircher, Mafia Bus Driver (Peter Hayes), was lynched D3!
4 Lil Uzi Vert, Mafia 1-shot Strongman (Caleb Prior), was lynched D5!


1 Serial Killer



15 TOWN


PR

1 Not_Mafia, Town Doctor (Andrew Prior), was killed N1!
2 Radiant Moonlight, Town Friendly Neighbor (Christina), was killed N2!
3 Elena Fisher, Town Factional Observer (Tori Wu), was killed N2!
4 Shos, Power Role (Character)

Priscila, 1-Shot Vig (Tris Prior) [N4: momo]
Keyser Söze, Town Loved (Tobias Eaton)
PeregrineV, Rolestopper (Jeanine Matthews) [N1: Radiant Moonlight, N2: shos, N3: shos, N4: shos, N5:shos]
MathBlade, Ascetic Townie (Natalie Prior)


VT

1 Transcend, Vanilla Townie (Matthew), was killed N3!
2 Mewtaph, Vanilla Townie (Johanna Reyes), was killed N3!
3 Nero Cain, Vanilla Townie (Edward), was lynched D4!
4 WhemeStar, Vanilla Townie (Edith Prior), was killed N4!
5 Ramcius, Vanilla Townie (David), was killed N4!
6 momo, Vanilla Townie (Albert), was killed N4!
7 Creature, Vanilla Townie (Marcus Eaton), was killed N5!

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Post Post #4269 (isolation #230) » Tue May 23, 2017 12:50 pm

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It's been game over since LUV's flip.

Unless MathBlade convinces me of SK-scum in PereV or Gamma... today should only be going one way.
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Post Post #4270 (isolation #231) » Tue May 23, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 4268, Gamma Emerald wrote:Keyser can you explain what makes you loved flavor wise
Have you not seen the films? :giggle:
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Post Post #4272 (isolation #232) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:02 pm

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Tobias/Four is the true hero of the Divergent Series :good:



My power in scum hands would be OP. If you scum read me you'd basically need to deal with me today not tomorrow :cool:

SK is probably already bulletproof, plus, if loved in the day phase, equals near-invincibility.

Or if you town read me, you can ride the train with me to an early D5 town victory.


Ascetic SK sounds common on here, but I want to hear out MathBlade's scum case on PereV and Gamma first.
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Post Post #4274 (isolation #233) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:03 pm

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In post 4264, shos wrote:
In post 4255, Keyser Söze wrote:- the SK is not concerned about Shos' INVESTIGATION role
This kinda makes me think it is you >.>
No, it's me figuring out why the SK is keeping you alive.
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Post Post #4282 (isolation #234) » Wed May 24, 2017 1:10 am

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Well you're both wrong :cool: (we are obviously seeing the set-up differently to eachother, but we can discuss mechanical 'balance' post-game with keyenpeydee).


Going to unearth Nero Cain's scum-case on zakk (the MathBlade slot), see if there's any tangible meat there.
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Post Post #4283 (isolation #235) » Wed May 24, 2017 2:02 am

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Spoiler: Nero Cain's scum-case on zakk
In post 716, Nero Cain wrote:town don't rolefish. You and Zakk
fishing for the serum info is scummy
as F.
In post 1007, Nero Cain wrote:He just feels
slimy and not town
...so its gut for me.
In post 1201, Nero Cain wrote:Honestly, I'm fine with Zakk. Like pinged me hard since its
pretty whiney
. seems
LAMIST
. I don't really remember the
ad hom
from his slot in Street Fighters like he did in
In post 2309, Nero Cain wrote:Zakk you are the SK that
knows I'm wrong about Key
right?
In post 2733, Nero Cain wrote:He's SK hunting wich makes a ton of sense from group scum but
your scum read on me makes little to no sense
.
In post 2746, Nero Cain wrote:but according to Zakk its better to SK hunt today wich
makes the mislynch pool much much bigger
.
In post 2746, Nero Cain wrote:Zakk is SK. Key is mafia I bet.
In post 2750, Nero Cain wrote:Well there's two unknown kills and Zakk keeps freaking out about their being the possibility of an SK in this game.
In post 2751, Nero Cain wrote:like there's a HUGE advantage to hunting the last team scum but Zakk wants to ignore that? WTF?
In post 2820, Nero Cain wrote:more
strongly worded bullshit
.
In post 2821, Nero Cain wrote:As you so put it, lynching either faction gets rid of one night kill and FMPOV you are/were a confirmed sk. I was under the impression that Shos' 2372 was a result and not just his reads. Assuming that, it makes the team scum lynch pool
SMALLER
. Lynching from a smaller pool makes more sense from town b/c there'd be a better chance to hit scum as opposed to opening it up and trying to lynch a maybe SK. Since I was under the impression that there was a not team scum result on you and you had wanted to hunt
not TEAM SCUM
it made sense in my mind that you were an SK. If you are indeed the SK you CAN'T hunt group scum b/c as soon as we do lynch group scum we'll be solely SK hunting (if the game isn't over)
In post 2822, Nero Cain wrote:wants to
keep his mislynch options open
.
In post 2902, Nero Cain wrote:
manipulation
In post 2979, Nero Cain wrote:I was under the impression that Shos had a not team scum result on Zakk. Zakk's
didn't seem town motivated
to me. It felt more like coming to the defense of and thus buddying LUV then "I think you are scum." Seeing him as the SK was the only thing that made sense to me with what I thought was a not team scum result on him.
In post 3016, Nero Cain wrote:I have a hard time believing that you believe that's what I'd do as scum.
In post 3019, Nero Cain wrote:I think this is actually a very scummy post. I think town that gets wagonned get more paranoid and flaily. So I think think this cool and calm act is
fake as fuck
.
In post 3028, Nero Cain wrote:so fmpov this is just Zakk
shade throwing
. Like he can't go "oh there's scum in dauntless but let's just lynch outside dauntless" Zakk, as the last scum, needs as many mislynches as possible. Sitting there and mislynching me and then going "oh silly me, I didn't even go with my own theory and it 'caused a mislynch, NOW let me go after my theory"
In post 3062, Nero Cain wrote:he's
not even abiding by his own theory
....
In post 3063, Nero Cain wrote:Zakk:
I think the last scum is in dauntless


Nero votes Luv. It was totally consistent with his theory. It doesn't matter if I was voting you for "sk hunting". It was still
consistent
with his theory

Zakk:
Why the fuck would you be voting LUV?!?


He's talking out of both sides of his mouth and trying to
increase the amount of mislynch targets
. He's the scum we want.
In post 3069, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of Zakk believing that the last scum is in Dauntless but now wants to vote outside Dauntless?
In post 3079, Nero Cain wrote:pure scum post.

"prove you are town and if you can't then you are scum!" but you just write everything off as WIFOM so....dammed if I do dammed if I don't.
In post 3157, Nero Cain wrote:I agree with this. It really feels like Zakk knows I'm town and when I flip town he's just going to go "it was crazy to think we could lynch scum for days in a row.
In post 3158, Nero Cain wrote:this should actually be a huge red flag. It's p common that scum will
parrot town so they get town cred
.
In post 3318, Nero Cain wrote:Zall is fucking scum, that's all. I don't know what he's exactly claiming but I think its fake.


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Post Post #4284 (isolation #236) » Wed May 24, 2017 2:25 am

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In post 4279, Priscila wrote:I thought the Creature kill was unusual... when I did not know that Creature had a roleblock ability.

I do not see how any member of the town could condone the rolestop to be on anyone but Creature with that knowledge. These night actions are horribly suboptimal.
Creature was a VT (who was in the non-cleared list).
It was his
factional serum
[ABNEGATION - Roleblock] that had the PR (this said nothing about his alignment at the time).

Apparently we have a
town
confirmed
player
who can
investigate scum
every night
- that is surely who the doc/protective role protects each night...? :nerd:
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Post Post #4285 (isolation #237) » Wed May 24, 2017 2:53 am

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In post 4277, shos wrote:I really feel like loved is more fitting..
Re-reading D4-D5, somewhere along the line, somehow you got 'pocketed' :cry:


@shos
In post 4258, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 4251, shos wrote:what? Creature killed? wtf?
Do you have any more information? :cop:

I can remember you saying I had 99% chance of NOT being mafia, and 1% chance of NOT being SK - has this changed?

What are the SK%/mafia% for both MathBlade and Gamma Emerald (before and after N5)?
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Post Post #4296 (isolation #238) » Wed May 24, 2017 3:51 am

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In post 4293, Priscila wrote:they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.
Yeah, that's not a valid argument as both town
AND
the SK want groupscum dead... ZERO town-cred points. :shifty:

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Post Post #4336 (isolation #239) » Thu May 25, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 4335, PeregrineV wrote:If we're not testing Keyser's Loved status, I'm good with lynching Math today.
Unnecessary now since shos' roleclaim.

Would that prove my
alignment
to you...?

shos (confirmed town) knows I'm loved.
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Post Post #4342 (isolation #240) » Thu May 25, 2017 5:42 am

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In post 4337, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4336, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 4335, PeregrineV wrote:If we're not testing Keyser's Loved status, I'm good with lynching Math today.
Unnecessary now since shos' roleclaim.

Would that prove my
alignment
to you...?

shos (confirmed town) knows I'm loved.
If you were town loved, then shos would not want to lynch you.

If you were Loved Townie, shos would not want to lynch you.

Having the modifier Loved but apparently not an alignment indicative rolename puts you on the list behind Mathblade.
My point was, that testing my loved PR is now futile as shos (confirmed town) already knows it's true. Nothing would be gained by testing it.
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Post Post #4343 (isolation #241) » Thu May 25, 2017 5:45 am

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In post 4339, MathBlade wrote:Someone explain to me in simple terms why I am scum read. I don't see any reasons.
I quoted Nero's SK-case on your slot a couple pages ago.
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Post Post #4344 (isolation #242) » Thu May 25, 2017 5:57 am

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In post 4342, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 4337, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4336, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 4335, PeregrineV wrote:If we're not testing Keyser's Loved status, I'm good with lynching Math today.
Unnecessary now since shos' roleclaim.

Would that prove my
alignment
to you...?

shos (confirmed town) knows I'm loved.
If you were town loved, then shos would not want to lynch you.

If you were Loved Townie, shos would not want to lynch you.

Having the modifier Loved but apparently not an alignment indicative rolename puts you on the list behind Mathblade.
My point was, that testing my loved PR is now futile as shos (confirmed town) already knows it's true. Nothing would be gained by testing it.
Moreover, shos may be town confirmed, but it doesn't mean he can't be wrong.

Fortunately for me, he wants to lynch MatthBlade instead of me today.

Priscilla's moment of realisation looked genuine too.

It's game over now for everyone, no one will think outside their PoE.
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Post Post #4352 (isolation #243) » Thu May 25, 2017 10:07 pm

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Any last words Mathblade?


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Post Post #4354 (isolation #244) » Fri May 26, 2017 5:48 am

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Are you saying Nero Cain's SK-case on your slot is confirmation-bias fueled?
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Post Post #4357 (isolation #245) » Fri May 26, 2017 6:06 am

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Yes, I do not like players defending themselves by saying 'scum me would have never done this'.

Tell me more about SK-Gamma...
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Post Post #4358 (isolation #246) » Fri May 26, 2017 6:16 am

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FYI: IMO, the ascetic claim is just the nail in the coffin.

The Town Protective role and the Town confirmed cop surviving this late is quite frankly ridiculous and adds justified suspicion to your PR modifier.

Seriously, why the fuck is shos still alive? Or at least the fucking rolestopper should be six feet under right now.

Creature clearly set out who he was going to roleblock, so that is an additional mark against your deflective SK-case on Gamma.

Sadly we're forced to presume the obvious: you are an ascetic serial killer.

If not, I'm lynched tomorrow and that's GG fellas. Town have won this unless some bastard has messed up his results/claim.
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Post Post #4362 (isolation #247) » Fri May 26, 2017 6:33 am

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Gamma deserves an award if he's the SK.

He pocketed me as soon as he replaced in and claimed VT at L-1.

The Creature NK is just the icing on the cake. Genius scum play to fuck you over royally.
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Post Post #4388 (isolation #248) » Sun May 28, 2017 9:24 pm

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I'm VLA til Tuesday morning.
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Post Post #4403 (isolation #249) » Mon May 29, 2017 9:55 pm

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Post Post #4405 (isolation #250) » Mon May 29, 2017 10:13 pm

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In post 4246, Keyser Söze wrote:The presumed town-cleared players through investigation/mechanic/set-up still alive:
shos, Priscila and PeregrineV (
if all these players are town we can't lose
).


PoE: lynch is between MathBlade and Gamma Emerald.
In post 4102, Creature wrote:
In post 4097, MathBlade wrote:Assume LUV is scum. What is the game like tomorrow?
PoE
Gamma
, then Pere, then you.
In post 4103, Creature wrote:rn the only VTs alive are
Gamma
, LUV and me, right?
In post 4107, Creature wrote:I'll use it on the other VT (
Gamma
in that case).
In post 4157, Creature wrote:rn I could roleblock either LUV or
Gamma
.
FoS: MathBlade
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Post Post #4413 (isolation #251) » Tue May 30, 2017 1:43 am

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Congrats Allegiant!


A special nod to Nero Cain's zakk/SK-scum-case too - I really enjoyed re-reading that, was hilariously accurate from my POV.

Mafia really hurt themselves N1, I'll have to find out their motivations... I honestly talked myself out of mafia in Dauntless from D2 onwards.


Thanks keyenpeydee
: I loved the playerlist, flavour, setup and faction/serum dynamics. I'm glad there were no extra suprises that last day phase!
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Post Post #4415 (isolation #252) » Tue May 30, 2017 2:05 am

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I couldn't understand why mafia-LUV would needlesly f**k up his mafia team... (I was wrongly clinging onto WIFOM to defend LUV, I couldn't see him as SK-scum either (no SK-motivation in his play. Thus, I read him as town. He wasn't a town-read through content though.)

[Just read the mafia PT - they didn't know the serum's bypassed player abilities] :?
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #253) » Tue May 30, 2017 2:05 am

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Wellplayed BTW mate, you had a great game x
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Post Post #4471 (isolation #254) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:55 am

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In post 4464, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4413, Keyser Söze wrote:A special nod to Nero Cain's zakk/SK-scum-case too - I really enjoyed re-reading that, was hilariously accurate from my POV.
glad you liked it, wish you hadn't mislynched me first.
Sorry, I was still suffering from a strong strain of OMGUS. Good to see power-town Nero Cain in action though.
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