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To me what made League different than Dota was that league was heavily focused on individual skills and players and enabling one person to make the kind of difference they never could in Dota and over time it's felt like they've moved away from that model, unless you play a gank jungler like Rammus and nonstop gank lanes.
If I'm roflstomping a lane I should be able to have deterrence against jungler camp besides relying on my own jungler or getting so far ahead that I can 1v2, because all that happens when you can 1v2 in the current game is the support and top lane start coming mid.
So yeah gameplay wise the ward change was catastrophically bad for the high-elo game at large in order to bandaid fix a competitive issue (supports only buying wards all game in competitive games) and slightly improve things in low elo. Continually making the game more and more jungler dependent makes the game feel very frustrating unless I want to spam Rammus/Amumu games which feel dissatisfying even when you single handedly break the game open. And it feels like there's this attitude in league players nowadays where you treat your teammates like they're your enemies and not the enemy team.Last edited by RadiantCowbells on Fri May 19, 2017 6:15 am, edited 1 time in total.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Psyche
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Well, if the game isn't as fun for you or your friends, that's one thing, and I understand it. Tastes change, maybe you liked the things that it was in the past, etc. I don't agree (I've played the game since Season 3 and the game is much, much better now), but I can understand it.In post 2924, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't play anymore so I am going off of what seems to be the general consensus from my friends that still do.
It's not dead but it's certainly declined both in playerbase and quality of experience from the times that I am talking about. I tried to get back into it multiple times and it just doesn't feel the same anymore for me for several reasons, some of which are due to personal changes but a lot of it is due to changes in the game.
The emphasis on helping junglers gank more without getting behind is awful and the current 'free ward' situation is awful. I used to go back and buy four wards for both sides of the lane for 6 minutes because I would get camped so much and now I can only ward one side some of the time.
But if you're making a statement about user base, then at least we have some non-subjective thing to base it on, and it's just utterly false -- particularly from the seasons you cited. Last September, it was reported that it now has over 100 million monthly active users. That represents an increase from 2014's 67 million monthly users. 2011 had 15M and 2013 had 32 million. So really, the time period you cite far, far lags behind the current day's player base. At some point the game will stop growing and start declining, but at least 2016 was not that year.
On Twitch, it remains the most popular streamed game even outside of esports. I don't know why people care about this, but after a brief time with Overwatch taking most played during LoL's offseason, LoL is once again considerably more played than any other game in PC Bangs in Korea (http://game.dailyesports.com/view.php?u ... 7304973812)..- RadiantCowbells
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Oh I actually completely forgot probably the biggest thing for me was that they made Annie ult no longer instant. Obviously YMMV on that.
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I mean my explanation probably seems narrowly focused around my own game and kinda selfish but the sentiment is pretty universal. Of the people that I used to play with only like 2 of them still play and Jesse doesn't even ranked anymore.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Ser Arthur Dayne
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I stopped playing some months ago and it was basically because Karthus was shit and they were ignoring old champions in favor of new and flashy and hyper-mobile champions with invulnerabilities.
The other reason was the toxicity when I could be doing a million other things that I enjoy that doesn't involve ragers and toxic people.
That doesn't mean the game is really dying just because I no longer enjoy it. It's true that it has changed a lot from what it used to be (for better or worse), but there are probably a bunch of new people that pick it up and enjoy it for what it is now.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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And that's fair. I understand that a lot of people still love the game regardless of whether they played when I did.In post 2929, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I stopped playing some months ago and it was basically because Karthus was shit and they were ignoring old champions in favor of new and flashy and hyper-mobile champions with invulnerabilities.
The other reason was the toxicity when I could be doing a million other things that I enjoy that doesn't involve ragers and toxic people.
That doesn't mean the game is really dying just because I no longer enjoy it. It's true that it has changed a lot from what it used to be (for better or worse), but there are probably a bunch of new people that pick it up and enjoy it for what it is now.
It just isn't the game that I picked up at the start of high school and invested so much of my life into. And it's not gonna be that again so.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Psyche
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who would wanna play league with an annoying silver cuck lmaoIn post 2913, Narna wrote:Who wants a game after my 14 days?~ShowW(eed)/L: 420/2
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yo that reminds me i legit had an inting karthus support on my team and i actually fuken won
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ok maybe he wasn't inting but he had a fuckin crazy like 2000 games on karthus lmao
actually i found him: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=falkentyneShowW(eed)/L: 420/2
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fuck man
every few games league wants to fucking tell me im not connected to the internet when I clearly am, makes me restart client, and then when I finally get back in, I get told that the game was remade.
why do i even bother if riot literally does not want me to play their game
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i didnt realize rito reset the masteries either and played without them for two games
i also forgot how to summoners and rocked out smite midlane for game 2
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have you tried looking on LoL forums etc for fixes?In post 2941, Nosferatu wrote:fuck man
every few games league wants to fucking tell me im not connected to the internet when I clearly am, makes me restart client, and then when I finally get back in, I get told that the game was remade.
why do i even bother if riot literally does not want me to play their game
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