Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

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[v[CommKnight[/v] I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT CREATURE IS A KIND AND LOYAL CREATURE OF MY

wait what am i saying

he's kawai potato

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plz fix post
VOTE: CommKnight

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i'm alive!
i'll post more later
i promise Mod

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as a rule of thumb, scum are usually more considerate with votes

scum dont play off the cuff

and town switch votes?
(i'm alive now)
I'm being a filthy hypocrite but you haven't done anything
You've just naked voted like 3-4 people
I'm not seeing why

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you will soon

what the fuck is this

"I will soon"
Am i like
supposed to wait several days
Why not explain now?
Scrambling for a reason why?

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no

it relies on the reactions of others

town is freaking the fuck out

is that a good enough reaction


what do you even expect to learn

am i sheeping
i don't know if i'm sheeping

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you'll see

don't want scum to pick up

honestly you should just tell us now

or like

scum could NK you

and no one would know

(IK there's a lot of time left but honestly it doesn't matter)


you should like
totally answer
not like some BS like
"I'll tell you later, i promise"
or
"It's a town thing"

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hellfire and alban are scum.

best logic 10/10

questions your switch voting
questions reads
"omg ur scum town halp"

lolno
reasons?

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read my posts and it should become obvious what my intentions are

achem

i think you forgot

reasons

can you explain for me right now
i mean i went and looked and like
minimal content
i dont see anything (notable)
so yeah
reasons?
like, you type out, right now, right here, reasons

stop dodging

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Best logic aqard goes to Sesq. I mean look at that argument. He really convinced me that hf and al were scum.

What's agard?


also

i think i'm scum now
AL to the scumchat!

dun dun dun

*flies away*

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excitedly refreshes page to see what other amazing scum reads Sesq can make.

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what else would it mean, gamma?

and yeah, maybe we should snipe from the inactive pile.

how about VOTE: Coop Sheep

wait l2 fuck

UNVOTE: aronagrundy

i think you are

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

VOTE: LunaeCinere

are you an alt

sup

VOTE: gamma emerald

VOTE: aronagrundy

this is fucking trash yo

there's no fucking reason


its like

ur an alt
votes

ur weird/scummy for voting because it was rvs

votes


boi

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This is scummy. Also, your reaction to sesq was weird.
Has anyone played with hell before?
Hellfire, you realise I made the exact same post just a few posts ago?
He repeating exactly the same pt should convince everyone that I am not scum with him. I could of course be scum without him, about which i will convince you guys that I am not.

I actually didn't see that.

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i want to cry
sesq please
can you explain

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This is scummy. Also, your reaction to sesq was weird.
Has anyone played with hell before?
Hellfire, you realise I made the exact same post just a few posts ago?
He repeating exactly the same pt should convince everyone that I am not scum with him. I could of course be scum without him, about which i will convince you guys that I am not.

I actually didn't see that.

I was too caught up in the whole Sesq voteswitch thing
which i guess makes me suss
but on the other hand i believe i've revealed more info than you but that might've been because you went to do RL stuff

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I just wanted to make sure this wasn't VI and was actually scummy.
I'll see what Sesq says, although my mind is made up
I don't care too much about what y'all think about this

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IDK why you dont trust me. Im seriously curious how tf you arrived at the conclusion HM is scum.

interactions

I've only interacted with you

And Comm but that was rvs

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i'm going to try and focus on other players now due to how irrationally irritated you make me

This is me.
He's dodging all my questions, providing some sort of shifty answer that depends on how good of a MS player i am
And when i quiz him on what it all means, he just says "You'll see later"
Which is really annoying because it feels like i'm digging into quicksand
VOTE: Sesq
Unless he can pull a rabbit out of his ass i'm sticking with this vote
Please persuade me Sesq that you're just VI

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Finally! A pagetop!

VC 1.06

Hellfire Missile (3)

:

Sesq, CommKnight,

Gamma Emerald,

Sesq (3)

: Pyra, NotTheRealPaul, Hellfire Missile,

Creature (2)

: ShadedMelee, NJAC,

Cooperative Sheep (1)

: Creature,

NJAC (1)

: aronagrundy,

aronagrundy (1)

: Cooperative Sheep,

alban (1)

: LunaeCinere,

Not Voting

(1): alban,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

i swear to fucking god if i get lynched because Comm was joking and Sesq was being a piece of shit
im gonna be fucking salty
(I see why GE voted me)

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IDK why you dont trust me. Im seriously curious how tf you arrived at the conclusion HM is scum.

interactions

I've only interacted with you

And Comm but that was rvs

sorry, i did mean interactions between you and me. this is my mistake.

i'm going to try and focus on other players now due to how irrationally irritated you make me

This is me.
He's dodging all my questions, providing some sort of shifty answer that depends on how good of a MS player i am
And when i quiz him on what it all means, he just says "You'll see later"
Which is really annoying because it feels like i'm digging into quicksand
VOTE: Sesq
Unless he can pull a rabbit out of his ass i'm sticking with this vote
Please persuade me Sesq that you're just VI

why would I reveal anything to scum?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

WHAT

THE

FUCK

someone else ask him then
because he won't tell me

hell
Paul you ask
people think you're town
GE also, please ask
you know what

everyone except for fucking me ask him
then maybe he'll fucking answer

inb4 "yall r all scum im not sharing my reads"

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yep, you're with GE

PEDIT: it has nothing to do with the fact that you're the one speaking to me, it's that you're alive.

i'm with GE?
does that mean comm is also scum
wait

or maybe YOU'RE SCUM

WOAH MAN

OR MAYBE
ITS COMM AND YOU

WOAH MAN

please stop dodging my questions
"it has nothing to do with the fact that you're the one speaking to me, it's that you're alive."
if this were a couple hours away from a lynch i would be worried
but i don't get this
was i supposed to die like 5 minutes ago or something

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Creature is weird. I've played with him (or maybe in a game that he's modded) and like, i don't remember this many one liners with minimal content.
I still don't get the whole "if i had a gun would you shoot you or x"
I don't know what he's trying to achieve.

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Not helping

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(I see why GE voted me)

Why? Why did GE vote you?

Also why you can see the reasons behind GE's vote but not those of Sesq or Comm?

GE voted me because he didn't like the fact that i basically repeated the other person (ajorn?)
Sesq i have no idea, he's just like, "i'm not sharing my reads with scum" (Which, he hasnt said jack shit to anyone now without prodding from me)
and comm was being sarcastic i think, take a look at his post when he voted me

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you can see why i'm not providing my case, right?

No.
The list of times when withholding a worthwhile case as town is a good move is very limited, and on Day 1 with no Night 0 is even more limited.
I'm pretty much left with the following options;
1. The case is super thin and it's boring/meaningless to explain 'gut'
2. You're convinced your tell is super amazing, and don't wish to reveal it to other scum so that you can catch them.

If it's #1 you're wasting everyone's time by acting like it's anything more than that.
If it's #2 then, I submit, the tell probably isn't as good as you think, and even if it is it's strongly worth explaining to lynch one scum, because I've never seen a secret tell work twice in the same game.
If it's some other option then I'm too dumb to think of it.

uh, what?

what the fuck is thissssssssssssssss

Sheep provides reasonable explanation as to why you should provide reads even if there's scum
"lolwut" goes Sesq
Lets say you don't want to reveal your reads because "scum is there"
you get NK'd maybe and no one knows what you were gonna say
Or you reveal to town
Maybe you get a scum lynched and then you get NK'd
It's either
You don't say anything and maybe get NK'd/Lynched, then no one knows what you were gonna say, therefore a waste
Or
You say something, maybe get a scum lynched, and get NK'd. You got a scum at the cost of your life, which would be worth it because there's only 3 scum and like 7 town or something like that
PLUS

WE HAVE DOCS HERE

THEY SAVE YOU FROM DEATH
I PROMISE

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There's literally no reason for you to not explain your reads

you could've gone gut earlier and i would've been like, "yeah, maybe"

but now you've like, dug a hole

you've refused to answer two/three people's requests for explanations

that's pretty suss

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VOTE: creature

i'm interested in seeing how this goes

How to Waste Your Time

why are you dying?
Is MS not as fun?
or are you actually dying in rl
bc that would be pretty spooky

(Note: nothing to do with the game i just wanted to know)

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damn, hm. i was about to hop on creature but you just gave me another reason that you're scum.

What

The

Fuck


Okay someone else do this

Maybe then he'll STOP FUCKING DODGING QUESTIONS
WHY DOES NO ONE ELSE FIND THIS SCUMMY

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sesq's prev games as town involved reads with explanation (skipped marathon and minis)
not AI probably but pointing it out (i've probably missed out on some scum games if i've skipped marathons and minis, i think there was one normal scum game that was some time ago i don't really remember)

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sesq's prev games as town involved reads with explanation (skipped marathon and minis)
not AI probably but pointing it out (i've probably missed out on some scum games if i've skipped marathons and minis, i think there was one normal scum game that was some time ago i don't really remember)

irony that i got banned in a game that Shiqf would later replace in (as town)

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Reading this game still confuses me. I'll try looking at ISOs instead.

Also i should explain that I'm voting creature because I've played multiple times with town!creature and he seems different this game

maybe because he's dying?

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i feel this is wrong

idk why

this triggers me

literally spends entire time thinking i'm scum

"this feels wrong"

this is weird
like you had a scum read but then it feels wrong, literally no reason
i haven't posted anything major other than an attempt at reading earlier games (no luck) so i don't get it
i mean i'm not saying vote for me

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Alban sorta died

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what's ego?
townreading mutton
Lunae i'm not gonna even come close because wagons (voteswitching though)
Creature is probably town, one liners and the whole dying thing may have shifted me

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VOTE: agent

why

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voteswitching is town or scum?
Do town have more fluid reads or scum?

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Do I switch to Comm's wagon because I want a lynch to go through
Or do i stick with Sesq in the hopes that someone lynches her

ughhhhhh
He's at L-2 atm
VOTE: Comm Might as well add an intent to hammer due to the fact that people might be missing and comm might as well know
Some may ask, Hellfire, why the vote switch? I'm not seeing a Sesq lynch go through so might as well sheep am i right
Just want a lynch today
May not be the correct one but due to my failure to scum read anyone else i'm going to go what what yall say
because i've been tunneling Sesq the entire time, which may have damned me but honestly i don't care

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VOTE: CommKnight
Hopefully when this flips I can get a better idea of who's scum >.>

Why

i thought we were gonna wait for a hammer
Not a quick hammer
This is what Newbie Queue does
Do we not do this in opens

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Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

i admit that there's few hours left but i felt like we could squeeze some more analysis out of this
Of course Comm had to go VLA so there's that

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What sort of analysis would you like to squeeze in?

From everyone else

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Great News! Nobody died on N1.

It is now D2.

VC 2.00

Not Voting

(12): Agent Sparkles, Cooperative Sheep, NotTheRealPaul, Sesq, MuttonChopMagic, Hellfire Missile, LunaeCinere, Creature, aronagrundy, Gamma Emerald, NJAC, alban,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-18 18:30:00)

I protected NJAC last night. We should both be near-conftown barring another claim.

I dunno if it's such a good idea to claim.
There could be a possibility that the scum didn't kill anyone. I dunno if that would be a small possibility to rule out, especially in a game with 4-6 cops. The only way a scum gets some pass is on a kill-less night and 1. if they are claimed to be protected by a doc; 2. if the scum themselves claim to be a doc.

Why was Gamma Emerald town anyway?

Great question!

VOTE: alban

well thanks for reminding me

but in reality, i just forgot. dont let confibas shook you.

i think it should be pretty evident why he is scum

Do I have to make another case to convince you he's town again?

I guess there's likely one scum in Agent Sparkles and Cooperative Sheep.

Why is this?

im night three doctor

counterclaim me

i fucking dare you

The docs and cops are randomized, so there can be multiple of the same role for the same night.

I agree that it's not necessarily a bad idea to lynch inside the claimed doc/target pool

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

I'm not sure alban would claim n1 doc as scum after aron's post.

can we stop saying cc it doesn't really mean anything when we know that the nights for roles are randomly determined

i wasnt talking to you paul

but i would policy lynch

due to this claim i am officialy CONFTOWN

until i am killed tonight / someone tries to challenge my 100% correct claim

No you're not. You just are so off-base believing that a random claim clears you that no one fucking cares.

I was N1 doc and saved Creature.
This is the reason why I was a bit suspicious of Agent's claim.
Although there could be 2 docs, for me it's unlikely that there could be 3 docs on N1.
I would like to lynch between Agent and Sheep.

Any preference there sport?

yeah, but if im not being cc'd im confirmed town

so for now, you should believe everything i say as if it was coming from town. not as if its automatically accurate, but coming from town.

unless someone wants to counterclaim. i dare you to do it scum

anyway so we lynch in {alban, sparkles, coop sheep}

feeling most confident about alban

i am very confused
Basically, docs and cops are in this game, every one is either a doc, a cop, or scum. There can be no VT
However, it isnt a doc and a cop per night
Instead, it's randomized, like it could be two docs or two cops per night? Or does it go up to three? I don't understand this.
And then Sesq says something about being n3 doc and saying that anyone that CC's is lying? But then Aron claims that there can be more than one doc on N3?
And that CC's are useless because there can be multiples of the same role on the same night?
Did i get this? Was the reason why no one died due to a doc or to the mafia not nk'ing anyone? Do people do NKA? Does it matter when no one died?
What's the target pool/claimed doc? Why would it be a good idea to lynch all claimed docs? Wouldn't that just be a waste of a lynch and a town member?
Is Lunae town? Is Gamma town? Why did yall read Gamma as town? (or rather, why doesnt anyone see him as scum?)

So many questions, so few answers (or maybe i'm just stupid)

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someone answer some/all of my questions please?

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I'm back. I need some time to refocus in this game, so I'll come with good content in one or two RL days.

Know that I'm aware that Sparkles protected me last night, so we're both almost conftown. I didn't protect anyone N1, BTW.

wait

wait

wait

wait
what
I didn't protect anyone N1
are you also claiming doc
what
what
and if doc protects you, you get a notification?
this seems off
can someone help
im very confused again

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Lastly, do not think of yourself as stupid. Sometimes these games induce

imposter syndrome

, and it happens to the best of the players. Buckle up, and enjoy

what is Imposter Syndrome

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yea sheep is just scum
powerlynch away buds

2/6 not rhymed


would not play again

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I'd love to know how much time mutton spends trying to make his posts rhyme

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this may surprise you but I actually spend relatively little
I ghostwrite professionally, my rhymes on ms are often low effort shitholes

this makes me sad.

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I can provide you the usual list of empty comments when asked about town reads, though I fail to see how they'll help, but here;

Looked like he was trying to game solve.
Didn't feel opportunistic.
Vibed town to me.
The points against him were few and those that existed sucked.
Yadda yadda.

I mean, there's absolutely nothing in my Day 1 that suggests I didn't town read him, as I only called him town and defended him, but even a semi-competent

scum

player would have the same. But all of this info is useless to you, so I guess blow me away with what you're doing with it (as you only ask me for it and no one else, which makes me question your motives).

can you enlarge it? I can't see it.

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I have this feeling Hellfire Missile got scum, anyone else does?

What

Did you mean I found or I am scum

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mod you should rename it to Day 2

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V/LA 6/7-6/9

This might make me seem scum like Comm (Yes, VLA timing might've been suss)
Prod for activity makes me do reads of a shit kind because that's the kind of reads i do under pressure and yes i know they're shit but i don't know how to change
(Assume all reads are lean or something)
Creature town
NotReal town
NJAC town (although he sorta dropped off the radar)
Cosheep i think is town, contrary to popular belief
GE is weird, don't know what he's doing with 3 docs (null)
Sesq is null (trying to avoid bias, i guess could be town)

here is my reads list with its shit reasons or something
make fun of it if you want
i tried




again

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yup im very new @everyone who asked

Me too, don't worry about it.

@Hellfire -

ARE

YOU

DOC

OR

COP

BUDDY?!

Just encase he misses it on his return.

prodge cop

i have finals to study for, not going VLA again, but minimal content okay

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i hate you all for the same avatar

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no like i remember someone saying we should lynch in cop!pool

Are you even pretending to read at this point?

never was

what's the plan (that doesn't involve

lynching town, which is me

)

ok

so now yall are probably going to lynch Sesq for the reasons that Alban stated?

i have a lot of stuff to do RL, while not VLA, my content will be minimal and my reads even shitter than before
and i'm probably gonna be replaced or lynched when i come back

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@Hellfire - Yuck

i tried

Reading you and Vedith as town, might just be because yall basically are leading the town (before yall came town was pretty much falling apart, or at least not getting anywhere)

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wait we're listening to alban wtf

i never said that
He just basically provided all of the reasons why people are lynching you on D1
And i just said, Hey this is pretty much what Alban said

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What part?
Can you explain why a bit more?

his entire play is an act that has, as my patience, worn thin

VOTE: paul

i died a little on the inside

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yay