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nahIn post 22, FireScreamer wrote:Is that based on desire to form wagons early? Cause I disagree with that philosophy.
bananananana and TB are both on opposite ends of a spectrum; TB just blank-votes and Banana is tryharding
it's more likely scum would go in the middle to blend in IMO- MarioManiac4
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idk but it's clear he's putting more effort into rvs than anyone elseIn post 26, FireScreamer wrote:Is that tryharding or just responding to someone who interacted with him?
Also looking at TB's 2017 games where he was an original player (based on his wiki) he naked votes regardless of alignment in RVS.
TB could be scum or town here tbh, I didn't meta him but I wanted to get out of RVS and didn't see any better way to do it- MarioManiac4
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how did you check TB's 2017 games in less than five minutes?In post 26, FireScreamer wrote:Is that tryharding or just responding to someone who interacted with him?
Also looking at TB's 2017 games where he was an original player (based on his wiki) he naked votes regardless of alignment in RVS.- MarioManiac4
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You have given me an example that I am wrong with that tho.In post 37, FireScreamer wrote:So do ya townread me for tryharding TB's meta?
I feel so enlightened- MarioManiac4
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I was expressing confusion that you were townreading me instead of scumreading me.In post 40, BananaNSFW wrote:Succeeding at buddying means I'm starting to townread him?
Town buddies too?- MarioManiac4
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Nah I think I've played with you three times; twice I was scum + you scumread me, once I was town + you scumread meIn post 42, BananaNSFW wrote:Oh yeah, that makes sense. Weren't you scum each time that happened though?
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oh shit i got outsmartedIn post 45, FireScreamer wrote:
I didn't though. I gave you an example of why TB's not trying isn't indicative for exactly TB. I questioned whether Radja was tryharding at all. At no point did I provide an example where townreading tryharding was wrong.In post 39, MarioManiac4 wrote:
You have given me an example that I am wrong with that tho.In post 37, FireScreamer wrote:So do ya townread me for tryharding TB's meta?
I feel so enlightened
alright firescreamer you can have a townread but I'll get you next time- MarioManiac4
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That's fine. I'm town.In post 53, FireScreamer wrote:Sorry MM. You gotta be town for us to have town cohesion.
What are the other requirements?- MarioManiac4
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In post 33, BananaNSFW wrote:If you're trying to buddy me, it's working.felt like it to me
so i just decided to chill and have fun until something else came up- MarioManiac4
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feels bad manIn post 120, FireScreamer wrote:
Then why?In post 118, MarioManiac4 wrote:VOTE: maker
this is probably the best vote and not for the same reasons as last game
How do you read ThinkBig just now?
he's making opinions on things, but he's sitting back and not persuing them
like, he's "obligated" to ask questions and give opinions but it doesn't feel like he's working towards that goal.
thinkbig is my strongest townread right now because although mm/beli is silly and I think we all know it is he is posting and working with townreads, actively seeking cohesion.- MarioManiac4
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someone asked me why i was scumreading makerIn post 121, MarioManiac4 wrote: he's making opinions on things, but he's sitting back and not persuing them
like, he's "obligated" to ask questions and give opinions but it doesn't feel like he's working towards that goal.
this would be it.
all i can see to support FS/TB's "beli/mm" theory is that beli defended me which isn't really indicative of either of our alignments IMO and certainly doesn't make us scum together- MarioManiac4
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Sounds like something you would doIn post 139, FireScreamer wrote:I am townreading TB because they agree with everything I say. Discuss- MarioManiac4
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Im pretty sure TB lurks every scumgame.In post 178, Wisdom wrote:postcount has no bearing on alignment
Beli is null. I could vote it, I'd rather vote maker atm though.- MarioManiac4
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wtfIn post 198, FireScreamer wrote:In post 194, MarioManiac4 wrote:i don't think that is a good push but i'll let fs explain why
padayadaI could be tunneling like a motherfuck on a page 2 lolread but does this look like MM trying to enemy of my enemy me to shake me off of them to anyone else?
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I don't like how Beli and Tenshii are similar wagons that have done similar things yet the pressure on Beli far outweighs that put on Tensh.
ftr I don't really have a Beli read at this point.
TB asked for my most recently completed scumgame, here it is- viewtopic.php?f=53&t=64492- MarioManiac4
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Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.- MarioManiac4
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I hope you don't mind if I sig this postgame.In post 223, FireScreamer wrote:God you are making it so hard for me to not just want to tunnel you MM.- MarioManiac4
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he doesn't appear inquisitive at all, isn't thinking about anythingIn post 224, ThinkBig wrote:
Can you explain the teneshii read a bit more? The only things I see in her ISO is a few RVS fluff posts. The only thing that I see worth noting is that teneshii promised a catch up yesterday afternoon that still hasn't come.In post 222, MarioManiac4 wrote:Alright I phrased that unclearly.
What Beli did in his first post is state that he disliked Fire's logic and thought it was "dreck." I'm not sure going on to ignore it is indicative of alignment.
Beli hasn't done too much but I feel like he's been doing that in a much less scummy way than what Tenshii is doing.
only voted fs for using bad logic- which is in itself bad logic, but more scummy- MarioManiac4
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Tenshii why did you feel the need to say this?In post 237, Tenshii wrote:But apparently FS can be town here.- MarioManiac4
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likeIn post 241, Tenshii wrote:Because there have been people who agree with the fact that FS's push is bad but not necessarily him being scum.
you say people think it's town
but you don't *re-evaluate* it? like you want to stick to the read but don't want to be seen as tunnelling?
and also with that above admission, why did you revote FireScreamer?- MarioManiac4
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the burden to convince is on you because you are the person who is scumreading FireScreamerIn post 246, Tenshii wrote:Why is the burden to convince on me?
I've stated/proved why his logic is bad and no one has refuted it. People just continue to townread him.
you haven't stated/proved why his logic is bad, you've just said "I don't like FS's logic, FS is scum"- MarioManiac4
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I decided to joke about how you were reading meIn post 265, FireScreamer wrote:
So you decided to lie about how you were reading me?In post 263, MarioManiac4 wrote:I didn't actually townread you at that point FS
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i think it takes some real mental gymnastics to say this is your townmeta from matrix5
i'm not even scumreading tenshii for that
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There is nothing more frustrating as scum as being accused for illogical reasons by an illogical townie. You simply can not use logic to make it go away.
It's scummy because it's an easy push on FS because everyone (i'm 99% sure) agrees his content made no sense. You're pushing on him for that even though you will know this sort of early tunnel is NAI.- MarioManiac4
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Tunneling is NAI because town do it and scum do it both regularly. You would know this because you have been on this site for over 6 months (and may or may not be an alt)
like I just went to a random game of yours, ISO'd you, and got this "Given that ThinkBig hardclaimed Mason and there isn't a CC. He should be leading today's lynch. Even though there's the risk of TB being bad town/tunneler (as Lowell has brought up), the risk of another Mason being outted/lynched is 0% now." recognising town tunnel.- MarioManiac4
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