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Post Post #3278  (isolation #200)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:24 pm

feels like everyone beside melee punchers, really.
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Post Post #3280  (isolation #201)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:15 pm

"something for everyone" sure. but it's not balanced. not close even. and the lack of AD in the runes is extraordinarily punishing as an ad if you get behind
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Post Post #3286  (isolation #202)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:23 pm

In post 3284, xRECKONERx wrote:idk, precision tree on people like trist, kog, xayah, etc seems pretty bonkers

vayne, too. good lord the vaynes ive seen today.

I think the only group that probably gets hit hard is junglers because they don't have a great jungle-specific rune


Adc feels more snowbally because of the lack of free damage you get. Once you're behind I feel like you stay behind unless you flame horizon the guy that gets ahead of you, which is very hard because CSing under tower feels so much harder when you're under.
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Post Post #3288  (isolation #203)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:32 am

In post 3281, Maestro wrote:Ok, if you don't like the lack of AD, look to Inspiration - the whole new tree dedicated to Gold guarantees and quirky, wonky, fun things that should help your game even if you're behind. Like, unless you don't play the game to have fun, I don't see a problem.


I don't. I play solely to win. Winning is fun, losing sucks. Losing because a major system has been tweaked sucks. Playing normals and not getting rewarded sucks, which makes losing triple suck cause you gotta play more games. I don't want my competitive game to be "quirky or wonky". I want to be able to be able to effect them game in a way that is equal to other players, not be left behind because of system changes, so then when I cause my team to lose it really sucks but I can at least learn and become better instead of like "should of played an assassin."

And yeah, they are gonna tweak this system. Yeah, it'll get balanced and toyed with and perfected over the course of the year(and years to come) and it'll become a system that(along with giving more than ~80 ip a game) will make the game easier for new players to get into. But yo, I don't play the pbe because I don't want to beta test this shit, so like don't make me beta test this shit? I don't want a month of league of cleavers, ya know?
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Post Post #3291  (isolation #204)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:40 am

Idk, it's just a ridiculous statement to me. "You can have fun even if you're behind". No. You can't. The game is designed so losing fucking sucks and being far behind is not fun. It's very hard to "have fun" if 5 kill - was gonna say zed but it's kind of a 5 kill anybody - comes and kills you before you can really react (or despite reacting because he is strong and you are weak). Which I think is a totally fine mechanic and the entire genre is pretty much predicated on snowballing a lead, basically. And I honestly think that's what actually drives people to become better at the game, that futility of being the losing side and a thrill of being able to comeback despite the game being designed to crush you when you're behind. It's just too much right now. Prior to the change, ADCs - every single one - took 7% armor pen and the AD per lvl masteries. That's gone, so even for an adc, not being able to buy an on time bf sword is gonna start making last hitting under tower a giant struggle and I can really imagine how AP guys are last hitting when behind unless it's "use the mana ring rune and spam your moves situation".
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Post Post #3294  (isolation #205)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:39 am

Nah, I was bored at work, now I'm waiting for breakfast and then imma eat. Then I'm going to play more league because welll..

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Post Post #3302  (isolation #206)  » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:40 am

50,000 blue essence for the rest of your life.

If I earn enough to get urfwick, I'm gonna ban Zoe until I get enough essence to buy her.

Also Its very funny how big the trick is. "Hey guys here's the very expensive be shop, spend all your money in this then buy Zoe for rp wooooooo"
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Post Post #3307  (isolation #207)  » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:19 am

Oh man

Oh geez.
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Post Post #3324  (isolation #208)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:13 am

Dude, I'm taking ravenous on Lucian right now and it's bonkers especially with himy being able to proc press the attack almost instantaneously.
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Post Post #3328  (isolation #209)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:19 am

Klepto Ez is very fun, especially when you have like 3 elixirs on you. And sometimes you get a 110 gold just for landing q. It's nice. Bankplank is probably great fun too. I honestly expect klepto to get taken down several notches.
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Post Post #3330  (isolation #210)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:36 am

Fair enough. I didn't look at the stats on plank, just the hype and the how often I've seen it.
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Post Post #3331  (isolation #211)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:37 am

Some of Ezreals punch is coming from the other keystones that make him strong as well though, press and harvest
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Post Post #3335  (isolation #212)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:07 am

Surprised brand isn't up seeing as I'd assume the reasons all the others are up is the same reason sona is: every carry lost 13 MR and Summon:Aery is strong.
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Post Post #3338  (isolation #213)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 am

Oh, apparently Quinn is in the ADC ranks for the first time in like two years. I thought press seemed stronger than tempo when reading but not this much. Tempo is basically ashe only
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Post Post #3340  (isolation #214)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:02 am

Yeah, sure. Twitch, kog, and like the boring trio of cait/ashe/jinx.
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Post Post #3357  (isolation #215)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am

You don't have to buy pages tho. Just make the pre-game if you're worried about it, or just play a champ you have a rune page for until you can log out and check it out of queue.
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Post Post #3361  (isolation #216)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:33 am

In post 3359, Psyche wrote:by the way, stopwatch costs like 600 gold
if someone's gonna build zhonyas, isn't it insane not to take it?
(i suppose you can argue a rune that gets you more kills on average or just control over the game/lane might pay off more)

EDIT: it seems that if you get stopwatch through the rune, it actually costs an extra 300g to upgrade it to zhonyas; that changes the math quite a bit, though the item cooldown reduction shouldn't be ignored either


this same logic is why i've been contemplating taking magic feet on all my carries. I don't typically buy boots 1 that early unless i'm against brand or lux, but giving up the red damage is real tough right now. Like the requirements are like "can't use cheap shots, sudden impact, or ravenous hunter and is safe enough to not have to use feast". So Ezreal.
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Post Post #3363  (isolation #217)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:40 am

Also has anyone else's games been finishing at a ridiculous fast pace? My average game time in my last 20 on this patch is sub 30 minutes.
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Post Post #3364  (isolation #218)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:41 am

In post 3362, Psyche wrote:it seems they designed those subrunes to give you ~300 gold no matter what


I think magic feet is closer to 4 tbh. Cause it's 350 straight up + the value of 10 movement speed.

edit: 1 ms is worth about 12g. So Magic Feet essentially gives you 470 gold worth of value.

Biscuits gives you 224g of stats(the mana) and idfk how to calculate the worth of the biscuit itself cause it straight doesn't translate to Health Pots.
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Post Post #3366  (isolation #219)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:57 am

Yeah that was basically the only thing I thought of. On a guy like Ivern or something. Go Blue Green or something. Take exhaust when Objectives aren't up and take smite when you need it.
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Post Post #3379  (isolation #220)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:43 pm

idk man, if everyone wants the same thing out of an inhouse, it would be fine.
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Post Post #3389  (isolation #221)  » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:01 pm

I'm in.
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Post Post #3401  (isolation #222)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:47 am

In post 3398, Maestro wrote:My call to action was more general than immediate


So more of a "someone else set this up" not a "let me actually do this thing I suggested"?
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Post Post #3410  (isolation #223)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:47 pm

I'm Def only getting like 81 ip a game
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Post Post #3416  (isolation #224)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:38 pm

all her stuff has decent magic ratios.
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Post Post #3444  (isolation #225)  » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:33 am

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Post Post #3446  (isolation #226)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:33 am

I just think you're crazy for trying to play a supporting style and out macro opponents at silver 3 instead of just hammering nails. If your smart enough to know how to win and cunning enough to convince your stupid team to do the right thing than you're probably smart enough to just pick xin/shyvana kill the idiots and your team will follow up simply because you're a 8 kill bruiser that's king of the game.
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Post Post #3448  (isolation #227)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:32 am

I feel like Shyvana is just a more proactive Ivern. She clears the jungle very fast, can take enemy camps, is tough to take down while having a haste and a jump, she doesn't have defensive abilities but she can beat up the enemy and not take too much of a beating because of all the free stats and that opens up teammates to get their shit in. If you can gank with ivern, you can gank with Shyvana. Just use the same ward/ward removal strats cause she has a lot of free time just as ivern does. She can also solo take objectives so when you see a gank top you can roll into dragon without calling for help.
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Post Post #3449  (isolation #228)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:42 am

Also being on someone like her or Hecarim can give you the guts to make plays because of their survivability. It's weird to me that Wukong and Kled are people you think are in your wheel house because they are some of the most aggressive dive champs in the game(Kled is incredibly durable tho if you can figure out how he works - I can't).
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Post Post #3452  (isolation #229)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:36 am

I can't help you with aesthetics or with what champions speak to you and which don't; I can only tell you how I think is the best way to win and that is to be as versatile and self-sufficient as possible without having to rely on incredibly high execution. Ivern, to me, is not self-sufficient. I can not speak to his versatility because I have never played him and am not nearly as familiar with him as you are.
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Post Post #3460  (isolation #230)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:06 am

They don't want high elo guys ruining their esports simulation mode and taking all the prizes, especially because you're gonna have to put in money/blue dust in order to participate.

Smurfing in solo Q fine, Smurfing in Clash not fine, basically.
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Post Post #3466  (isolation #231)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:39 am

In post 3463, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3457, SleepyKrew wrote:so excited for clash but I need to expand my champ pool to more than 2

all champs are unlocked in clash


That's not how he meant. He has the option to play more than2, he just doesn't know how.
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Post Post #3467  (isolation #232)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:39 am

also jungkle alistar has always been immensely fun
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Post Post #3484  (isolation #233)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:02 am

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Post Post #3486  (isolation #234)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:08 am

DIed most to tristana. Killed Thresh the most.
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Post Post #3487  (isolation #235)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:13 am

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Post Post #3492  (isolation #236)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:59 am

In post 3490, Maestro wrote:
In post 3483, Andrius wrote:She's [Vayne] my most slaughtered AND slaughtered me the most.

Same! Might this be a bug or...?


Not a bug, you guys are probably just playing against vayne a ton, and feeding.

Me and Sleepy both went down to Tristana, the king of bot lane.
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Post Post #3499  (isolation #237)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:58 am

I had 75% losses to taric.
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Post Post #3500  (isolation #238)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:15 am

ZITI!! THIS YOU?!
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Post Post #3505  (isolation #239)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:13 am

lmao, rublies!!!!

Nah i meant this g502 mouse that seemingly fell off a truck and onto my porch
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Post Post #3507  (isolation #240)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:17 am

thank you zito.

also my birthday is tomorrow, am I getting another gift?
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Post Post #3509  (isolation #241)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:24 am

one of my great games had you in it
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Post Post #3516  (isolation #242)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:24 am

Sort of? It's still 3 stacks but once guinsoo's is fully stacked it procs on-hit abilities twice on every other shot. Silver bolts are an on hit effect. So you get 3 rings in 2 shots after you have 6 stacks.
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Post Post #3521  (isolation #243)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:23 am

i think i place less wards than anyone in the world
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Post Post #3523  (isolation #244)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:43 am

mine is well below average for bronze(and i'm somehow gold)
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Post Post #3531  (isolation #245)  » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:19 am

In post 3529, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 3522, randomidget wrote:mine was below average for bronze rip


Yeah but bronze wards aren't worth anything anyway because of map awareness.



But like....I don't even get the wards on the map. I also don't level vision abilities
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Post Post #3537  (isolation #246)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:07 am

5.2?
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Post Post #3539  (isolation #247)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:24 am

Year in review bro....
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Post Post #3541  (isolation #248)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:16 am

Ziggs middle seems good. seems fine.
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Post Post #3544  (isolation #249)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:07 am

play rate is too low for the stats to mean anything. only guys playing it are ziggs adc experts
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Post Post #3550  (isolation #250)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:56 pm

See I always find S3 to be really bad and S1 to be the absolute worst.
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Post Post #3555  (isolation #251)  » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:07 pm

In post 3552, randomidget wrote:
In post 3550, Panzerjager wrote:See I always find S3 to be really bad and S1 to be the absolute worst.

s1 is bad yeah. s3 isn't great but you get some players who want to improve but are chill.
generally players at s3 aren't great but i've made some good friends there
s1 is def the worst


The issue with s3 that I find so amazingly toxic is that because that's where most new players get dumped at mid year after promos the variance is just so amazingly high and that leads to huge crazy blow outs which -in my experience- is when people are most toxic, so while individual instances of bad behavior may be more severe in other places (typically on the huge of tiers, so x1), the amount of blow outs that seem to happen in that section of the ladder means you're just getting it every single game, win or lose l, when in other places it seems to be more spectacular instances
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Post Post #3573  (isolation #252)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:10 am

I placed in gold so I don't have to read patch notes for the rest of the year. It's exciting.
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Post Post #3576  (isolation #253)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:16 am

120 ap is a lot.
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Post Post #3578  (isolation #254)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:49 am

How? Were you bronze 3?
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Post Post #3580  (isolation #255)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:05 am

10-0 s4? That's weird bro
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Post Post #3581  (isolation #256)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:08 am

Must of had some real bad mmr
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Post Post #3587  (isolation #257)  » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:44 am

stop watch and biscuit. or celerity and gathering storm.
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Post Post #3600  (isolation #258)  » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:44 am

If i only played on one account..I'm sure I'd have 200k on Ashe
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Post Post #3605  (isolation #259)  » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:57 am

they just nerfed the holy shit out of her, so like..that's my only point of surprise.
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Post Post #3609  (isolation #260)  » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:01 am

i'm pretty sure 8.4 was a nerf, yeah https://twitter.com/TheeMarkZ/status/970071979104518144
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Post Post #3640  (isolation #261)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:46 am

Hey...clash is almost here. I'm looking for NA players around my skill level to play clash with.
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Post Post #3655  (isolation #262)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:14 pm

only in clash
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Post Post #3668  (isolation #263)  » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:21 pm

clash suck.
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Post Post #3670  (isolation #264)  » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:12 am

My thoughts on clash:

This beta weekend was pretty clunky and I'm hoping that between trial and error in team building and the matchmaking system's self correction that is (supposedly) in place will make the matchmaking better. I also hope that riot will do more proactive prevention of smurfs being in clash. If those two things fall into place, I think it could be a solid option and would actually fix the issues with ranked 5s. At the very least, even if you bomb out 0-2 every time you play. You at least get a free xp boost which gives you the potential to break even on tickets.

I think "scouting" is an abject failure and if you care you're much better served going to op.gg. The only time scouting is effective is on one tricks, playing on their primary account and their primary role, like sleepy crew.

I wish Riot was more inclined to give details on how matchmaking works, so people can more actively defend themselves from people gaming the system, but I understand theirs a fear people would use that to more efficiently game the system.
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Post Post #3682  (isolation #265)  » Thu May 03, 2018 5:09 pm

There are plenty of safe picks. Like Sion.
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Post Post #3684  (isolation #266)  » Thu May 03, 2018 5:23 pm

Also some of it is just walk backwards. But between picking safer champions when you're first pick and playing them cautiously, you shouldn't be in situations where you're just totally worthless. But idk, I could see KScope's point in that "well, i can't pick the guy I wanted to pick because I don't get to go 2nd so this is stupid. I just want to be Jax, this is not fun), but like..if you're a Jax one trick and just want to play Jax I guess I only got 2 words for you: git gud.
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Post Post #3687  (isolation #267)  » Fri May 04, 2018 8:15 am

Sion, Cho, probably renekton. All those guys are super safe. I reliable probably is safe by virtue of no bad matchupa cause she's op.
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Post Post #3689  (isolation #268)  » Fri May 04, 2018 8:19 am

In post 3688, Draynth wrote:
In post 3687, Panzerjager wrote:Sion, Cho, probably renekton. All those guys are super safe. I reliable probably is safe by virtue of no bad matchupa cause she's op.

Presuming you mean irelia here :P

Yeah ol' i-reliable
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Post Post #3696  (isolation #269)  » Mon May 07, 2018 1:38 am

In post 3694, tn5421 wrote:
In post 3693, randomidget wrote:even with advanced warning though she zones you really fucking hard, and at low elo you dont have good enough positioning as a team to peel and let the adc burst her.


Just having that 5 seconds of extra warning stops it from being a near-guaranteed kill in a lot of cases, though. You're absolutely right that you still get zoned out in a general sense, though.

Edit: DISCLAIMER, I'm a bronzie.


5 seconds!?
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Post Post #3698  (isolation #270)  » Mon May 07, 2018 2:42 am

Where are you in lane in the hypothetical? When did you start backing up(when she was behind dragon or when she was in river? Idk man...League is a bad game.
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Post Post #3702  (isolation #271)  » Tue May 15, 2018 12:50 pm

Yup.
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Post Post #3709  (isolation #272)  » Thu May 24, 2018 10:24 am

Is there a high silver or gold top laner/jungler without a clash team in here
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Post Post #3717  (isolation #273)  » Sat May 26, 2018 9:27 am

In post 3713, hiplop wrote:
In post 3709, Panzerjager wrote:Is there a high silver or gold top laner/jungler without a clash team in here

Sup cutie


Just cause you flirt with me doesn't mean I won't op.gg you
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Post Post #3725  (isolation #274)  » Sun May 27, 2018 4:35 pm

The people who enjoy urf are the same people that enjoy aram. Lower skilled members of the community that don't care about getting better or trivial things like having a balanced experience. Essentially people who are bad and do not care that they are bad and only want to "have fun" by shooting a bunch of lux moves because if you shoot enough free skillshots eventually you'll hit one and you don't have to worry about pesky things like low accuracy. mana or cooldown to ruin your "late game fantasy". The irony is like...every game of lux ends in URF so like...just play lux and every game will be urf and you can play ranked and learn to play league which is a joyful yet arduous experience.
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Post Post #3730  (isolation #275)  » Sun May 27, 2018 5:50 pm

Not really worked up. Just making a point. I don't have these people on my friend's list, and I just don't open the featured game tab ever. If you're an ARAM/ARURF player, good for you. I'm happy that you found something you like.

It's simply not for me and I hold the opinion that ARAM actively makes you worse at league of legends.
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Post Post #3733  (isolation #276)  » Sun May 27, 2018 6:42 pm

One diamond guy liking ARAM < all bronze players liking Aram.
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Post Post #3735  (isolation #277)  » Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pm

Sure, whatever.
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Post Post #3738  (isolation #278)  » Sun May 27, 2018 11:57 pm

Same audience.
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Post Post #3740  (isolation #279)  » Mon May 28, 2018 12:16 am

I don't care enough to look for percentage stats, so you're gonna have to accept anecdotal evidence or do the legwork yourself.
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Post Post #3747  (isolation #280)  » Tue May 29, 2018 3:55 am

I think random definitely made it better. No fun getting the same cheese every single game. Every game in non-random was like. Lux, morg, nidalee, ezreal, jayce.
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Post Post #3750  (isolation #281)  » Tue May 29, 2018 4:45 am

In post 3748, RayFrost wrote:Hecarim, fiora, lux, ezreal, zed


Lux/morg criss cross bot lane was Def a thing. I forgot hecarim.
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Post Post #3757  (isolation #282)  » Thu May 31, 2018 9:06 am

In post 3755, Psyche wrote:is karthus jg viable again?
Ive been wanted to do that since I liked him.

Also I’ve always dreamed of running Liss jg as her ganks are pretty phenomenal when she gets the chance to do them.

Just plz tell me how you are making these mage junglers work it would be a dream come true for me if they were viable.


"Decent" is a very flexible word.

The answer is "low elo normals"
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Post Post #3788  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:49 am

Could replace it with the league logo....whole game is fucked
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Post Post #3793  (isolation #284)  » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pm

In post 3792, SleepyKrew wrote:don't listen to him
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Post Post #3797  (isolation #285)  » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:04 am

Stalker
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Post Post #3799  (isolation #286)  » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:57 pm

STASLKERES
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Post Post #3802  (isolation #287)  » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:35 pm

We only got classic announcer right now, yasuo was very recently one of the worst Champs before riot buffed him because half the player base complained
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