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[Fykus]

VOTE: firebringer

sup friends

[Fykus]

UNVOTE: for now. I'll wait a bit before putting a vote on somebody.

[Fykus]

Lynch would be 9 votes wouldnt it?

[Fykus]

VOTE: Fykus

let's focus on fykus

For what purpose? My lack of content in my posts? I'm sorry but I find it hard to get involved in RVS and its my first 17 player game on here so I might take a bit to get my footing in here.

[Fykus]

okay fykus engage me

what is your strongest townread and strongest scumread

I haven't got much in the way of townreads at the current moment, but "scumreads" I'd like to say Eddie but I'm probably bias as I have a tendency to scum read shitposty people.

[Fykus]

fykus: there's a good chunk of the game that's shitposted

why does eddie's shitposting stand out more than say -- mine or alisae's

Something about the way he keeps claiming different PRs rubs me the wrong way. I'd say this feeling will probably go away as the game progresses but its just how I feel atm so take it with a grain of salt.

[Fykus]

fair enough

he's just trolling. i doubt that even if he's scum his purpose is to draw out claims.

Yeah I agree with you on that, thats why I still haven't put on a serious vote yet. I apologise if it seems like I'm trying to dodge responsibility or whatever but once some more serious stuff starts getting posted I'm hoping I'll be able to find my feet.

[Fykus]

Ok so this is what I've got so far:

avagantimos town
creature maybe town

Started up a spreadsheet to keep track of people/what I think they are. Has anyone got any suggestions for keeping track of stuff in a massive game like this? I'll try and go back through the thread and wade through the shitposts to sort some more people soon.

[Fykus]

oh ok

[Fykus]

hey guys, just caught up with the thread.

avagantimos town
creature maybe town
LUV town
Lickety town
chickadee town

firebringer maybe scum
eddie probscum

Heres my current reads, none of which are in order.
Ok so up until a few pages ago eddie has just been shitposting his way through the game to make it seem like hes doing something (fire is still doing this). Eddie has finally started posting substance but that was after someone called him out on what he was doing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now though until I get a chance to go through his ISO.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to make a list of scum prospects and then ISO them all one at a time since getting through the thread is such a hassle.
Anyways, for now ill vote:

VOTE: firebringer

When I come back tonight I'll do some more digging and see what reads I can come up with.

[Fykus]

My reads haven't much changed so far this game.
I am still doing a lot of shit posting but I think I made about 2-3 quality posts, I know out of how many I have that seems small, but with how many bad posts people have in this, meh.

If people are voting me for shit posting, do you think all of my posts have no value? Or just my proportions are horribly sided to uselessness

Feel free to point them out so I can peruse

[Fykus]

Can't be assed to Out all of my reads on People rn

hows about just your top scum read then?

[Fykus]

Holy fuck I just struggled through the 20+ pages that were posted today, only took me like 3 and a half hours to do.

First of all to address this:

Actually wait.
Sometimes I think it's ThinkBig.
Sometimes I think it's not.
I'm not sure.

Can't be TB cause hes gone off on some religious holiday dealy so hes not gonna be back for a few days. (currently in a newbie game with him as IC).

Back to real things though. I agree that alisaes claim would probably not be fake, after a night or 2 we'd be able to figure out it was fake. (teach me to crumb please).
I think I agree with the lowell votes but give me about 15 mins to go through their ISO just to be sure though.
Also I apologise for not keeping up with the game as well as I should be. Normally I'll try and post bits and pieces in games on my mobile at work but since this one moves so fast I never get the chance to catch up to be able to comment. After tomorrow though I've got 10 days off so expect my activity to rise.
Anyways, brb after I read Lowell's ISO. Any questions feel free to ask while I'm here.

[Fykus]

Fykus do not talk about ongoing games.

shit sorry.

[Fykus]

Right, so that didn't take as long as I thought it would. Basically Lowell's ISO is all 1 word sentences with very little substance/thought behind it. I'm not sure how you're supposed to frame an argument about someone when theres like nothing there to quote or anything. I mean my posts are few and far between but atleast I'm trying to explain what my thought process is behind my posts.

VOTE: Lowell

Happy with this today unless someone can convince me of a more probable scum flip?

[Fykus]

Anyways I feel good about Fykus again

VOTE: Avagantimos

Can you explain your reasoning for this please? As I've been reading through the game I've generally liked ava's posts and he was my first townread (when i tried to start making a list), but going through his ISO just now theres not much meat to his posts so I'm assuming I'm liking the context of his posts moreso than the actual content.

[Fykus]

VOTE: Fykus

Why?

[Fykus]

Every single game im in i get scumread on day 1 and usually i end up lynched as town unless ive got a town pr to fall back on.

Although in this case im wondering why fires voting me after my posts earlier and whether it could be a delayed omgus from when i voted him a few days ago. Although im starting to townread him a bit now.

[Fykus]

VOTE: Fykus

Why?

Ur confirmed scum.
Your teammate pmed me.

Thanks for the giggle m8

[Fykus]

Thanks for the bants. Ill see you cool cats tomorrow

[Fykus]

Fykus I don't think you're gonna get lynched today

Not unless fire has his way

[Fykus]

so why were you town reading fykus?

He made a newbtown mistake.

I did?

[Fykus]

What sounds fake?

[Fykus]

So when are we gonna lynch mafia?

when you chuck your vote on lowell.

[Fykus]

I'm just asking what mistake I made since I want to improve my town game thats all. I'm not trying to deny I've made a mistake(s).

[Fykus]

Fykus it's not what you did, it's the way you did it. It sorta just sounded like you unintentionally did it and now want to find out what it is.
Fire I know right, it's crazy.

Sorry, I'm just trying to improve my town game. Like I've said earlier, every game I'm in I get scum read day 1, even when I'm town. I guess I shouldn't be asking for advice about it in the middle of a game though. Forgiveness please.

[Fykus]

Fykus r u not going to address my concerns on u at all?

Im assuming you mean this:

What thingy?
I thought he has been scum just trying to figure out who to push and not sure what to dedicate himself too.

Like I thought he was townie when he first voted me, but ever since then. All his posts just sound like he is totally unsure of how to behave with all the wagons going on.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to prove to you that this isn't what I'm doing? Like it seems this is a loaded question. All the votes I've placed in the game (aside from Lowell) have been on people with like 1 or 2 votes on them (actually I think I've only voted for you seriously before I voted Lowell). I explained my reasoning about that vote and assumed people thought it was fine because nothing was brought up afterwards. I still think its kind of curious that you decided to go after me after I'd moved my vote along away from you (kind of like a delayed omgus or something) but I'm probably reading too much into it.

I apologise if it seems like I'm treading too carefully, its just that I've never been in a game this size before (which is a bit overwhelming) and I've also never been invited/included in a townbloc before so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be acting now. Anyways, if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask me if itll help you sort me.

[Fykus]

Im just gonna stop the wagon before it starts.
Im a PR, i dont want to say which since ill be prioty nk number 1. I havent left any crumbs like alisae but yeah, there it is.

[Fykus]

Wait.
You'll be NK'd.
Over me?

I think so yeah. You have the potential to keep killing townies and die if you hit scum

[Fykus]

Eddie and gerry obviously trolling

[Fykus]

Eddie and gerry obviously trolling

If Gerry (or yourself) are trying to eat a NK, its not going to work unless you actually claim a role that Scum want to kill more than the others.

Uzi's claim is kinda evidence that there is a SK in the game? What do people think about that? I ask because I think it unlikely that there is a Cop and a Gunsmith in the game. Gunsmith can get a guilty on Mafia, but not on SK. That would passively make SK immune to direct investigations.

Id prefer not to eat a nk which is why i dont want to full claim unless its necessary

[Fykus]

The wagon on me was going to take off and by the time i waited to claim wed have no time to find scum

[Fykus]

Either we are having HUGE miscommunication here, or your scum completely unsure of what to do when being pushed.

First of all I want to say THANKYOU for finally taking the game seriously. It helps immensely to help me town read you. I've only been here a couple months so to me shitposting/lurking/fuck arsing about = scummy (even though its not all of the time ofcourse).

As for what I've quoted here I think its a bit of both, although I'm actually town whos completely unsure of what to do when I'm being pushed. Normally the wagons on me just keep building and building until I'm finally at L-1 and I'm forced to claim. I figured I'd just save us all the trouble and out myself now. As for your 3 potential scum on your list I think you may be right about Umlaut. I think however, that Lowell would be the better candidate for today.

[Fykus]

Guess we got bad players to be PRs.

Us bad players have gotta learn somehow.

Scum are in:

gerryoat

LicketyQuickety

Umlaut

PeregrineV

Lexa

Lowell

[Fykus]

will do. thanks

[Fykus]

Shit i just got prodded. I apologise i hadnt even realised it had been 48 hours since my last post. Will post some thoughts in the morning (its 12am here now lol)

[Fykus]

VOTE: Transcend

[Fykus]

yeah, I am willing to bet the town has a universal back up, and scum don't have a role blocker at this moment.
Scum likely have a ninja, which could mean we have more investigative than just a gunsmith.

I think you're right..

Mod fixed quote tag

[Fykus]

well I fucked that up, how embarrassing

[Fykus]

I don't actually feel like putting in effort to get w chick wagon without this so
I have a partial guilty on chick. I want a claim or I'm assuming they're scum. yes, this means I'm not vt, no, I'm not going to hard claim what specific role rn.

I have results to confirm that this is true.

okay i think lq is town and i want him to vote chixk so
I will say I'm in a neighbourhood and actually acting on behalf of someone else who I am confident is town, but of course scum is probably gonna kill me anyways to check

But then you go and say this.

okay i think lq is town and i want him to vote chixk so
I will say I'm in a neighbourhood and actually acting on behalf of someone else who I am confident is town, but of course scum is probably gonna kill me anyways to check

I don't believe that. I'm gonna go ahead an claim.

I'm a JoAT. The reason I don't believe you is because last night I created a neighborhood with Uzi. I'm sure someone will come in to say it's convenient he's dead and can't confirm that information. But that's what I did.

I counterclaim - I'm actually a JOAT, I used one of my roles last night to investigate Eddie last night and was told he is NOT VANILLA which feeds into his claim that he is not VT.

VOTE: Chick

[Fykus]

Not that I don't ageee with this wagon........

You guys do realize there can be multiple JOATs in this game, right?

I considered this but wouldn't it be a little overpowered for town if that was the case? I guess it could be a possibility - each one having a completely set of roles attached to it, possibly counterbalanced by the fact that they could both counterclaim one another and get each other lynched/nk'd. I've never been in this kind of situation before so I just went with my gut feeling of what to do so I cc'd.

[Fykus]

Pool 1:
Mafia Ninja
Town Bodyguard, 1-shot bulletproof
Town Doctor

Pool 2:
Mafia Rolecop
Town Watcher
Town Gunsmith

Pool 3:
Mafia Roleblocker
Town Universal Backup

scum probably have a ninja instead of role blocker since uzi was night killed instead of blocked.

I was responding to my own post lol.

I mean I guess it's possible. That means town has:

gunsmith
weak vig
eddie cane
JOAT (includes vanilla cop)
JOAT (includes neighborizer)

I don't know, that just seems like a lot of investigative power.

Scum basically have confirmed Ninja....

So if they have a ninja, then that basically means town has a universal backup, which would bring total town PR's to 6. I don't know much about large games but wouldn't that be too much power in towns hands, especially without mafia having a RB to counter them? Or would it be possible for scum to have a ninja and a RB?

[Fykus]

I agree, which is why I'm still suspicious of chicks claim. Without a RB and with town having potentially 6 PR's town would be heavily favored in this game.

[Fykus]

gg guys. sorry for my terrible joat counter claim