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[MathBlade]

I just got done coding around 20+ hours for something. I'm tired and exhausted. I don't have a case or explanation for why Creature died. It's still puzzling me. I'm going to sleep on this.

[mhsmith0]

VOTE COUNT

VOTE COUNT 6.01

[1] Mathblade:

Priscila,

Not Voting:

Gamma Emerald, Keyser Soze, PeregrineV, Mathblade, shos

MOD NOTES:

Day Five will end in May 26, 2017. Gamma Emerald is V/LA until tuesday.

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch. Day Five will end in

(expired on 2017-06-06 00:05:00)

.

[shos]

I really feel like loved is more fitting..

[Priscila]

PeregrineV, please explain why you did not use your action on Creature last night?

[Priscila]

I thought the Creature kill was unusual... when I did not know that Creature had a roleblock ability.

I do not see how any member of the town could condone the rolestop to be on anyone but Creature with that knowledge. These night actions are horribly suboptimal.

[Priscila]

Furthermore I do not see how a loved serial killer is "OP". It seems rather weak to me. If I should give a serial killer only that modifier I would think they have no chances to win at all.

[Priscila]

Keyser, please provide a case that does not involve mechanics for why Mathblade is the serial killer.

[Keyser Söze]

Well you're both wrong (we are obviously seeing the set-up differently to eachother, but we can discuss mechanical 'balance' post-game with keyenpeydee).


Going to unearth Nero Cain's scum-case on zakk (the MathBlade slot), see if there's any tangible meat there.

[Keyser Söze]

Spoiler: Nero Cain's scum-case on zakk

town don't rolefish. You and Zakk

fishing for the serum info is scummy

as F.

He just feels

slimy and not town

...so its gut for me.

Honestly, I'm fine with Zakk. Like 387 pinged me hard since its

pretty whiney

. 878 seems

LAMIST

. I don't really remember the

ad hom

from his slot in Street Fighters like he did in 1046

Zakk you are the SK that

knows I'm wrong about Key

right?

He's SK hunting wich makes a ton of sense from group scum but

your scum read on me makes little to no sense

.

but according to Zakk its better to SK hunt today wich

makes the mislynch pool much much bigger

.

Zakk is SK. Key is mafia I bet.

Well there's two unknown kills and Zakk keeps freaking out about their being the possibility of an SK in this game.

like there's a HUGE advantage to hunting the last team scum but Zakk wants to ignore that? WTF?

more

strongly worded bullshit

.

As you so put it, lynching either faction gets rid of one night kill and FMPOV you are/were a confirmed sk. I was under the impression that Shos' 2372 was a result and not just his reads. Assuming that, it makes the team scum lynch pool

SMALLER

. Lynching from a smaller pool makes more sense from town b/c there'd be a better chance to hit scum as opposed to opening it up and trying to lynch a maybe SK. Since I was under the impression that there was a not team scum result on you and you had wanted to hunt

not TEAM SCUM

it made sense in my mind that you were an SK. If you are indeed the SK you CAN'T hunt group scum b/c as soon as we do lynch group scum we'll be solely SK hunting (if the game isn't over)

wants to

keep his mislynch options open

.

manipulation

I was under the impression that Shos had a not team scum result on Zakk. Zakk's 2739

didn't seem town motivated

to me. It felt more like coming to the defense of and thus buddying LUV then "I think you are scum." Seeing him as the SK was the only thing that made sense to me with what I thought was a not team scum result on him.

I have a hard time believing that you believe that's what I'd do as scum.

I think this is actually a very scummy post. I think town that gets wagonned get more paranoid and flaily. So I think think this cool and calm act is

fake as fuck

.

so fmpov this is just Zakk

shade throwing

. Like he can't go "oh there's scum in dauntless but let's just lynch outside dauntless" Zakk, as the last scum, needs as many mislynches as possible. Sitting there and mislynching me and then going "oh silly me, I didn't even go with my own theory and it 'caused a mislynch, NOW let me go after my theory"

he's

not even abiding by his own theory

....

Zakk:

I think the last scum is in dauntless

Nero votes Luv. It was totally consistent with his theory. It doesn't matter if I was voting you for "sk hunting". It was still

consistent

with his theory

Zakk:

Why the fuck would you be voting LUV?!?

He's talking out of both sides of his mouth and trying to

increase the amount of mislynch targets

. He's the scum we want.

What do you think of Zakk believing that the last scum is in Dauntless but now wants to vote outside Dauntless?

pure scum post.

"prove you are town and if you can't then you are scum!" but you just write everything off as WIFOM so....dammed if I do dammed if I don't.

I agree with this. It really feels like Zakk knows I'm town and when I flip town he's just going to go "it was crazy to think we could lynch scum for days in a row.

this should actually be a huge red flag. It's p common that scum will

parrot town so they get town cred

.

Zall is fucking scum, that's all. I don't know what he's exactly claiming but I think its fake.

Not looking good MathBlade

[Keyser Söze]

I thought the Creature kill was unusual... when I did not know that Creature had a roleblock ability.

I do not see how any member of the town could condone the rolestop to be on anyone but Creature with that knowledge. These night actions are horribly suboptimal.

Creature was a VT (who was in the non-cleared list).
It was his

factional serum

[ABNEGATION - Roleblock] that had the PR (this said nothing about his alignment at the time).

Apparently we have a

town

confirmed

player

who can

investigate scum

every night

- that is surely who the doc/protective role protects each night...?

[Keyser Söze]

I really feel like loved is more fitting..

Re-reading D4-D5, somewhere along the line, somehow you got 'pocketed'


@shos

what? Creature killed? wtf?

Do you have any more information?

I can remember you saying I had 99% chance of NOT being mafia, and 1% chance of NOT being SK - has this changed?

What are the SK%/mafia% for both MathBlade and Gamma Emerald (before and after N5)?

[Priscila]

Thank you for that, Keyser. The highlights were a good addition to make the wall of quotes meaningful and relevant.

What investigate are you referring to? I do not see any in the claims. Either way, there is only one evil alive and a roleblock will confirm players as town this way. And, because it is serum, it would be the most foolproof way to clear players. So, I see no good reason why Creature was not protected.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV, please explain why you did not use your action on Creature last night?

Seriously? Creature the claimed VT who could have been the SK?

It was going to be either you or shos, and I went with shos.

[PeregrineV]

I thought the Creature kill was unusual... when I did not know that Creature had a roleblock ability.

I do not see how any member of the town could condone the rolestop to be on anyone but Creature with that knowledge. These night actions are horribly suboptimal.

He had a one-shot, and unless he himself was roleblocked then his roleblock would go through (apparently serum beats abilities).

It doesn't make sense to me to protect a ???? when there are 2 confirmed town hanging about.

[PeregrineV]

Thank you for that, Keyser. The highlights were a good addition to make the wall of quotes meaningful and relevant.

What investigate are you referring to? I do not see any in the claims. Either way, there is only one evil alive and a roleblock will confirm players as town this way. And, because it is serum, it would be the most foolproof way to clear players. So, I see no good reason why Creature was not protected.

Serums are one-shot.

If Creature blocked Gamma last night, then unless shenanigans, he is confirmed not to have killed last night, thereby making him town.

[PeregrineV]

Loved SK seems weird.

If it's a fakeclaim, it's not hard to test, we vote you to 4, and if you live you're cleared.

But pretty much seems like Math to me.

[Priscila]

Oh, my apology then - I misread that not at all serum were 1-shot.

[Priscila]

Oh, my apology then - I misread that not all serum were 1-shot.

ebwop

[Priscila]

If you want to know the activity in the hood, it consists mainly of Mathblade discrediting me and trying to widen the lynchpool, and some arguments that they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.

[PeregrineV]

Oh, my apology then - I misread that not at all serum were 1-shot.

Mine was in Erudite, I never saw the Candor one, but it should be in the PT first post.

[PeregrineV]

If you want to know the activity in the hood, it consists mainly of Mathblade discrediting me and trying to widen the lynchpool, and some arguments that they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.

Yeah, still leaning Math, but willing to test Keyser today if desired.

[Keyser Söze]

they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.

Yeah, that's not a valid argument as both town

AND

the SK want groupscum dead... ZERO town-cred points.

[PeregrineV]

they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.

Yeah, that's not a valid argument as both town

AND

the SK want groupscum dead... ZERO town-cred points.

Depends on if the SK is BP. If they are, leave scum alive.

But, scum was lynched, and not NKed by the SK.

[shos]

I think the only good eplanation for the nightkill is that the sk is the ascetic. That is why he doesnt fearme.

Btw, I am a rolecop.
I copped NC, keyser, ircher, and others i dont remember.

And I think we lynch Math; if he is town, keyser.
Cannot see anyone else as SK.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasons in the hood but I think Gamma is the SK that kills Creature. Especially if Gamma is strong willed.

Pedit GDI I specifically said NOT TO TELL SCUM.