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In post 28, momo wrote:maybe a one-shot or two-shot doctor.
just my 2 cents but what do yall think...
Not a bad idea I guess, but that's basically just column C but less town sided.
I don't think making a stronger scum role would change this problem. My main issue with the strategy is that it can confirm a townie on the first page of the game, which I don't think is the best idea for a newbie setup as it takes out a very important factor of playing mafia. I say change the bulletproof to a universal backup. It fits well with the setup. VOTE: BP->Universal Backup
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mhsmith0 wrote:It's actually not, for the important reason that interactions with a confirmed town will be non-indicative from everyone since all know the slot is essentially conftown. Objectively, you probably want a BP/not BP claim around the middle of D1, and then a tracker claim (if no BP) sometime before the end of the day phase (but super late in the day is perfectly fine).
Alternatively, you could just have a site meta where people don't policy lynch the BP claims later in the game, and then suddenly there's much less utility to the claim strategy in the first place. But since that's not really on the table, instead we are discussing swapping the BP with some other role that has strong incentive not to claim d1, eliminating the issue wholesale.
Actually doing the BP or not BP claims in the middle of day after interactions have happened would not be a bad idea.
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In post 86, drealmerz7 wrote:town BP should never claim town BP unless they are put to L-1 - just like any other claim, really
There have been multiple explanations from multiple people stating why an early BP claim is better than an early pther-PR claim(unless of course it's the tracker claim afterwards).
you want scum to not know who the BP is so they waste a shot on them, it's really basic
It's not the end of the world if scum gets to kill someone night 1. Plus, with scum needing to hit BP 2 times to kill them, it gives people a confTown that will be alive for at least day 2.
if any change could even be considered to the matrix6, I'd say add another mafiaRB to it in the 1C or 3B positions
I disagree. The setup's already more scumsided.
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In post 637, BTD6_maker wrote:Is the Strongman 1-Shot? If not, it seems to defeat the purpose of the Jailkeeper, which will be rendered practically useless. The 1-shot Strongman is to stop Tracker from claiming Day 1.
Strongmen can be stopped by roleblocks right?
If not then I guess yeah they'd have to be 1 shot.
Guys thoughts on: Not doing BP strategy early D1 but maybe late D1 as some scumhunting can happen then maybe? Like I want to join a newbie as IC so like... yeah.
But then the BP would be less believable when they claim. What if the scumteam was 2 goons and they suspected someone of being the jailkeeper? Then they could claim 1 shot BP.
