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Post Post #4244 (isolation #0) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 am

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Innocent:
Doctor
Friendly Neighbor
Factional Observer
1-shot Vigilante
Rolecop
Ascetic
Rolestopper
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Evil:
1-shot Bulletproof
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yes?

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Post Post #4247 (isolation #1) » Tue May 23, 2017 1:51 am

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I am townreading Gamma already and the presence of a night kill should all but confirm him as town. I am also townreading Mathblade. I do not believe that a loved townie exists in this setup. Please explain how I am wrong.
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Post Post #4252 (isolation #2) » Tue May 23, 2017 3:30 am

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Yes, the kill is very strange.

What do you make of it Keyser?
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Post Post #4256 (isolation #3) » Tue May 23, 2017 3:45 am

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Post Post #4259 (isolation #4) » Tue May 23, 2017 4:24 am

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There is no reason to doubt that Gamma was roleblocked, therefore Gamma is confirmed innocent.

Mathblade is investigation immune, therefore makes most sense as the serial killer. The response to the kill in thread and hood supports this.
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Post Post #4266 (isolation #5) » Tue May 23, 2017 11:23 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #4267 (isolation #6) » Tue May 23, 2017 12:04 pm

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Along with my other reasons, Keyser's response to the kill and to my vote was very villagery in contrast to Mathblade's response. I want to lynch Mathblade first.
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Post Post #4278 (isolation #7) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:09 am

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PeregrineV, please explain why you did not use your action on Creature last night?
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Post Post #4279 (isolation #8) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:11 am

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I thought the Creature kill was unusual... when I did not know that Creature had a roleblock ability.

I do not see how any member of the town could condone the rolestop to be on anyone but Creature with that knowledge. These night actions are horribly suboptimal.
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Post Post #4280 (isolation #9) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:12 am

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Furthermore I do not see how a loved serial killer is "OP". It seems rather weak to me. If I should give a serial killer only that modifier I would think they have no chances to win at all.
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Post Post #4281 (isolation #10) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:26 am

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Keyser, please provide a case that does not involve mechanics for why Mathblade is the serial killer.
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Post Post #4286 (isolation #11) » Wed May 24, 2017 3:03 am

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Thank you for that, Keyser. The highlights were a good addition to make the wall of quotes meaningful and relevant.

What investigate are you referring to? I do not see any in the claims. Either way, there is only one evil alive and a roleblock will confirm players as town this way. And, because it is serum, it would be the most foolproof way to clear players. So, I see no good reason why Creature was not protected.
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Post Post #4291 (isolation #12) » Wed May 24, 2017 3:31 am

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Oh, my apology then - I misread that not at all serum were 1-shot.
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Post Post #4292 (isolation #13) » Wed May 24, 2017 3:39 am

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In post 4291, Priscila wrote:Oh, my apology then - I misread that not all serum were 1-shot.
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Post Post #4293 (isolation #14) » Wed May 24, 2017 3:41 am

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If you want to know the activity in the hood, it consists mainly of Mathblade discrediting me and trying to widen the lynchpool, and some arguments that they cannot be the serial killer because they lynched scum.
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #15) » Wed May 24, 2017 11:32 am

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Now that shos has claimed, I can establish that Pere can be confirmed by tomorrow. With Pere protecting shos, only a strongarm serial killer could kill shos. Since we know that Keyser has only the loved modifier, we lynch Mathblade today as we do not know if Mathblade has the strongarm modifier.

Creature's roleblock would bypass Gamma's strongarm if he had one, therefore he is confirmed innocent.
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #16) » Wed May 24, 2017 11:34 am

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If anyone has any scenarios where the above would not guarantee a win, please say so.
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Post Post #4306 (isolation #17) » Wed May 24, 2017 11:44 am

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To be honest, I find a strongarm serial killer very unlikely regardless. Scum would only be given OSBP in the case of multiple killing roles - OS vig is not enough for this. Therefore, it does not make sense for the serial killer to have strongarm.
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Post Post #4311 (isolation #18) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:54 pm

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@Mod do serum bypass player both active and passive abilities?
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Post Post #4312 (isolation #19) » Wed May 24, 2017 12:59 pm

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Mathblade, if you think that Gamma is serial killer with a strong-willed ability, why would he kill Creature, who is not widely townread, and who can confirm that he targeted Gamma, thereby false-clearing him?
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Post Post #4320 (isolation #20) » Wed May 24, 2017 1:51 pm

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Mathblade, if you want me to town read you then you should stop trying to discredit me. Insisting that you would never put yourself into an autoloss that you have spent all of today trying to work your way out of if you are in fact the serial killer does nothing for me. Contrary to what you believe my gameplan has been pretty specific coming in and if I hadn't subbed for this then you would likely be left with someone with no strong ability to work in this gamestate.
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Post Post #4322 (isolation #21) » Wed May 24, 2017 2:58 pm

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My argument has been laid out clearly in the hood. I intentionally have not read the game because I wanted to come in and piece things together on the fly. This is always my approach to such situations and it has never failed me. Once the moderator responds, we will talk.
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Post Post #4324 (isolation #22) » Wed May 24, 2017 4:09 pm

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So unless there is an argument that Creature did not use the roleblock on Gamma last night, Gamma is confirmed innocent, yes?
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Post Post #4325 (isolation #23) » Wed May 24, 2017 4:16 pm

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Don't get me wrong, I just read all of the players of that slot and I would lynch it in a heartbeat, but every indication is that Creature targeted Gamma with the roleblock, which means that he cannot have performed the kill.
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Post Post #4333 (isolation #24) » Wed May 24, 2017 7:08 pm

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Mathblade I have provided reasons. I have not up and decided anything. If you believe there is a mechanical flaw in my plan, show it to me. If you believe that Creature did not roleblock Gamma, elaborate upon your conjecture. I will listen. I am open to anyone's opinions. I have no agenda here except to secure the win for town.
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Post Post #4364 (isolation #25) » Fri May 26, 2017 5:09 pm

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In post 4361, MathBlade wrote:Like the Creature kill frames me in ways I did not even imagine.
Why do you think this?

I have asked for any reason to believe that Creature would not roleblock Gamma, you did not say anything. Please share why you think this. Would you like me to unvote to help you feel I will listen?

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Post Post #4382 (isolation #26) » Sun May 28, 2017 11:19 am

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This is not going anywhere.

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Post Post #4389 (isolation #27) » Sun May 28, 2017 10:35 pm

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In post 4386, shos wrote:I am conftown
Priscilla has vigged on a night when three deaths happened, so I cannot see any way she is not really a 1s vig
PV will be copped by me tonight (rolestopper SK is not existent)
So with your "mislynch" we lynch PV is my cop shows anything different or I die or am blocked, and otherwise, lynch gamma

If you are town, why are you against this? You think this can fail somehow?
I think you mean lynch Keyser? To the best of our knowledge, gamma is confirmed innocent, yes?
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #28) » Tue May 30, 2017 3:34 am

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In post 4425, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Oh Keyser I knew. I just bussed Screen out of frustration and to WIFOM town. Worked too but town somehow lynched me over a slot who claimed ascetic Day 5.
Oh... I think I should have read the game. I did not know that Mathblade claimed ascetic on day five... oops. That would have saved some trouble.

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Post Post #4436 (isolation #29) » Tue May 30, 2017 4:40 am

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In post 4433, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4430, Priscila wrote:
In post 4425, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Oh Keyser I knew. I just bussed Screen out of frustration and to WIFOM town. Worked too but town somehow lynched me over a slot who claimed ascetic Day 5.
Oh... I think I should have read the game. I did not know that Mathblade claimed ascetic on day five... oops. That would have saved some trouble.

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Zakk claimed before me or I never would have *sigh*
You played very well. I was impressed.
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