Mini 1913: UPickInFreezer (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

HI! I'm hoping to have a fun town party! Are you town? Do you want to party? Hmu!

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh I was really hoping Tammy was in this game to have fun with the neighborizing stuff we have
If we need a replacement today you should probs hit tammy up

[Gamma Emerald]

I am town aligned!

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I was expecting shuffled picks but mine are all the third listed so I know it's not randomized
so I'm going to saying what the fuck to a few people in a bit

[Gamma Emerald]

I am town

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma: Good to know. Perhaps you want to explain to me what a Parity Cop is??

My post was on laptop which is locked until 7 am. Parity cop check two players to see if they are the same alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

The picks are obv in order of playerlist

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we not soft pls

[Gamma Emerald]

Although, given What HS said I think she has a high likely hood of being Town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mafia stump is a mixed bag. They don't count to wincon but can help their partners.

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL how is that softing?

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I said players could pick 2 possible partners for magic train

[Gamma Emerald]

@MOD I explicitly mentioned each player having two neighbor picks. Please make this clear in the daystart post.

[Gamma Emerald]

No it was just an ice breaker. IIRC Titus likes to make that type of post too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see that HS
Drealmerz do you want to be neighbors?

[Gamma Emerald]

TBQH I think gif would take precautions to ensure no one role could break the game

[Gamma Emerald]

@Comm I suggest you pick A50 instead

[Gamma Emerald]

@Comm I suggest you pick A50 instead

Telepathy??

But, seriously? Why did you pair me with Comm in particular?

Since I already took drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

You have to mutually pick each other

[Gamma Emerald]

OH, I thought you could pick one person and EVERYONE who picks them is in a neighbourhood.

That would be neat tbh but no
I stated this in my locked up pick wall, but doesn't hurt to say it twice: my mechanic was inspired by the alliances in Steven Universe 2. I feel my mechanic was rather poor tbh, but it was all I could think of that wasn't really wacky.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh, Titus reminded me. Here's everyone's choices because I'm smart.


Drealmerz - Vengeful PGO, Compulsive Bodyguard, Jailkeeper, Players targeted by 2+ players gets 1x dayvig

CommKnight - Watcher, Rolecop, Strongman, Vote sticks forever

Gamma Emerald - Tracker, Parity Cop, Follower, Magic Train style neighbor-making

Clumsy Phoenix - Dayvig (1-shot), Vigilante, Vengeful Strongman, Vote Shadows (What is this?)

Nacy - Neighbourizer, Mason, Strongman, Dead people majority gives a vote to someone

Almost50 - Forensic Investigator, Vigilante, Role Cop, NIGHTLESS

Democracy - Treestump (annoying), NK-immune Miller Vig (lol, I won a game as this role in the DAYLESS game), Treestump (AGAIN??? They WANT to be annoying) and DEATH = TREESTUMP (Burn this hydra with FIRE).

randomidget - Masonizer, Bus Driver, Consigliere, RANDOM DEADLINE UNKNOWN

Radical Rat - Vengeful, Neighbourizer, Reflexive Roleblocker, Lynched becomes treestump (you are buddies with Democracy AREN'T YOU?!?!?)

Mathblade - Cop, Universal Backup, Universal Backup, Dead gains 1-shot ability (dead gains WHAT 1-shot ability???)

Titus - Judge, Peacemaker, Vampire, PM ends day immediately, secret wagoning

Human Sequencer - Determined Townie (lol), Town One-Shot Insane Public Daycop (so opposite results believe in), 1-shot Silent Vote Passer (This mofo gave that silent voter his silent vote!), A copy of whatever special mechanic rolled D13.

Gerryoat - Lie Detector, Bomb, Universal Backup, "Day 1" double lynch.

Anyone want to say I'm wrong?

I was going to do this with commentary tbh
Should I still do it?

[Gamma Emerald]

@MOD what does the dead majority vote entail

[Gamma Emerald]

Ginbabe has posted
I had PMed SpyreX about getting rid of that hydra but deleted it after I got no response. BTW ty Clumsy and Shaziro for picking death death and extra death.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was really hoping to be parity Cop tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

It works like this

Dead votecount:
X: Dead 1, dead 2, dead 3 etc

When X reaches majority on the dead votecount, then

Main Votecount:
X: P1, p2, p3, ...... , [dead people]

Or at least that's how I intended it to work. Because I figured that dead people should have some kind of role to play even after they die.

So what I thought it was
TY

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, Navy being voteless probably means treestump.

ah nevermind, Almost. I just realized Navy was voteless. So that means Navy is 50% mafia since I only see one treestump for town and 1 for mafia. IDK why anyone would give mafia a treestump. But, I guess if no one chose it for town, then that means that they'd be confirmed maf

What the hell does this even mean? What do you mean "If no one chose it for town"? Did -you- get to choose your role? We didn't. I'm pretty annoyed about that actually, as that is not what I understood "UPick" to mean. I figured we submitted our desired roles and got one of them...like every other UPick I've been in. Clarify this nonsense please. Still catching up.

-Shaziro

Well then

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: MathBlade
Not confident in Radical Rat's reasoning at all, and Jaechocy's reasoning makes me eehhh a little, but I like this wagon for now.

Navy's role is pure troll. Treestump is just not fun to play at all. Sorry you rolled that, I know I personally won't be judging you if you lurk out.

@mod

, does a mafia aligned treestump count as a player when calculating whether or not mafia has reached majority and endgamed town?

Looking forward to whatever plan you have, Titus.

Please don't spam this thread. Condense your thoughts into large posts.

I'm actually really glad for this setup speculation, we completely circumvented RVS and now have things to talk about.

Pls don't encourage Navy/Yume to lurk out
I'm guessing there but I'm fairly sure I'm right.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay dreamz is reading a little faker than usual early on.

Slight townread on Gamma.

Why are we doing the lie detector thing if there might not be a lie detector what a waste of time but okay Gerry pushing it when that's the role he picked makes me feel good.

Rat has some bad posting but I don't think it's likely to come from scum unless he's just ballsy.

I said this last night in our pt before the account got activated that Commknight is scum. I saw commknight in the micro I ran and here he reads very different any way wayyyyyy more fake.

I like HS's postings esp 104 response to commknight.

Yeah I'm liking the rat.

I don't really like Phoenix's posting feels forced.

Nah, Comm reads as bold Town to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Comm Knight is fucking obvTown.

[Gamma Emerald]

It works like this

Dead votecount:
X: Dead 1, dead 2, dead 3 etc

When X reaches majority on the dead votecount, then

Main Votecount:
X: P1, p2, p3, ...... , [dead people]

Or at least that's how I intended it to work. Because I figured that dead people should have some kind of role to play even after they die.

So what I thought it was
TY

You gonna interact with anything here Gamma?

Yeah
Mild townread on you rn

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma, Why is obviously dodging a lie detector check protown?

Who did it?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma, Why is obviously dodging a lie detector check protown?

Who did it?

Did it?

CommKnight is refusing to let himself be checked by the lie detector or answer what he is getting from that? I see zero useful to town about that.

I don't see it?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, this is the optimal lynch.

VOTE: Navy

we have 50% chance at scum, and his posts have been trash so far.

You can't lynch stumps bro
If it is scum we just win when the other 2 die.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I'm fairly certain Titus is scum
VOTE: Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

Is there a game where Titus and Mathblade haven't auto scumread each other lol

That's why I scumread titus rofl

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mathblade

Ok. Let's fight Math. You seem hellbent on townreading anti-town behavior, interfering with my scumhunting, and are scumread already. Unless you have an army, that's not a likely fight you'll win.

Ohhhhh Townreading antitown behavior makes me scum now does it? Oh no! Let's not learn anything from Elemental Trinity where I pushed Transcend incorrectly...Let's push someone who is clearly towning it up when they don't spam. /sarcasm

How exactly am I interfering with your scumhunting? Pretty sure you are able to post. Oh wait this is just a Titus buzz phrase isn't it. Tell me how exactly me saying CommKnight is obvTown stops you from hunting?

That's the thing.

Town!Math takes posts literally. Town!Math would take CommKnighr's refusal to be volunerable to the lie detector as a scumclaim. Town!Math doesn't excuse anti-town behavior.

Town!Math doesn't give CommKnight places to hide.

Town!Math studies their mistakes and learns from them.
Town!Math takes your shade and uses it to catch scum.

I am not excusing it and I am not saying it is right.

I am saying CommKnight is Town and in my eyes doesn't need to do that.

Just like you "learned" in NY 199? Why are you TRing CommKnight? Why do your TRs get away with blatant anti-town behavior but your SRs would get tunnelled for "claiming mafia" even in spite of every other town slot telling you no?

Math wasn't in that?????????

[Gamma Emerald]

Basically the reason I say Titus is scum if she and Math get into one of these fights is because of both Mini 1893 and World.createNew. Both times they got into a big fight and Titus was scum both times. I also don't see it when that's not the case so until proven wrong I'm using that as a tell.

[Gamma Emerald]

did you make that yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

What even is forensic investigator

[Gamma Emerald]

And frankly, I don't want to hear anything from you. You messed up twice. You defended RR is SU2 and you doctored me in Spring Fever, so you don't have the right to call me stupid.

I don't recall being in any SU2.

You sure you've got the right rat?

That RR is Reasonably Rational
Not my fault you picked Radical Rat and are confused.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fairly certain they were first

[Gamma Emerald]

Comm Knight is fucking obvTown.

And now I'm officially worried about him!!

[Gamma Emerald]

How?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why for what?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why for what?

I thought your question "How?" was directed at my post just above it stating random is Town. If it wasn't, then ignore me.

@Math: Yup. Just like that one. It was at a pagetop and I was responding to the post on the page before that, so..

Also, nobody claimed PGO. Should we assume nobody got Vengeful-PGO? Cuz SHIT if that Role exists and is MAFIA.

Yea I did mean what you thought. I still don't get it. Are you saying randoms ignorance means a certain scenario is impossible?

V/LA until Thursday

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL at CommKnight votes

[Gamma Emerald]

When you say "me" it's optimal to establish who me is

[Gamma Emerald]

Comm, have we met?
Your name sounds familiar but I can't think of a game we've played together.

- Ari

You backup modded a game he was in

[Gamma Emerald]

Set it to GMT

[Gamma Emerald]

No

[Gamma Emerald]

[May 29, 2017 17:35]

Randomidget

~

CommKnight

264

[May 29, 2017 17:35]

Democracy

~

CommKnight

365

[May 29, 2017 17:35]

Titus

~

CommKnight

368

[May 29, 2017 17:35]

HumanSequencer

~

Unvote MathBlade

450

[May 29, 2017 17:35]

HumanSequencer

~

CommKnight

450

Wtf is this
Also isn't Nancy not posting?

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait what
Wasn't DEO outed then?

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum be raging like a mofo now.

What will you do if I'm right and this flips red like I believe Titus? Either way I'm conf town.

Just to be clear, if this IS real, I don't care that comm is conftown, he is IGNORED for the rest of the game. Anyone trash tier enough to actually do this for real should never ever ever be listened to about ANYTHING the rest of the way

-smith

No.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

Honestly, if you don't see your own play as bad, that's not my problem. I see your play as bad. I warned you, gave you a timer and told you to basically get your ass in gear. You've done NONE of that. So of course I'll carry through with my initial read and shoot. That's the most obvious choice I could possibly make.

The trolling is from 16 players who did jack shit when they were warned. From there, it's all a matter of the timer hitting zero.

I mean look now, now they're finally posting more after the fact.

WE ASK YOU A GOD DAMN QUESTION COMM

AND YOUR RESPONSE IS

HER DER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT REQUIRES MY THOUGHTS BECAUSE FUCK ALL REASON

IT WAS BULLSHIT TO BEGIN WITH AND YOU ACTED LIKE A CHILD YOUNG ENOUGH TO STILL BE SUCKING AT THE TIT.

LITERALLY THE WHOLE THING WAS BULLSHIT AND WHEN YOU'RE A 22 YEAR OLD PERSON. YOU CAN USE THIS BEAUTIFUL THING CALLED WORDS FOR FUCKS SAKE.

YOU ARE A CHILD, YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR A CLAIM, OR FUCKING ANYTHING.

YOU REALIZE

THERE ARE COP ROLES

YOU REALIZE

IF WE WERE THE PUBLIC DAY COP YOU FUCKING KILLED THAT?

THERE IS NOT, AND I CAN PROMISE YOU, A SINGLE IOTA OF ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE THAT BELONGS TO YOU. YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT TO BE AN UNDENIABLE FACT AND DON'T YOU DARE COME IN DEAD THREAD. THE MERE THOUGHT OF YOU RIGHT NOW AND HOW SOMEONE CAN BE SO FUCKING IDIOTIC INFURIATES ME TO NO END.

I managed to keep the threats out of it where I drive him from the site and hope he never touches a computer again and i think it's best I vent here and not actually get banned.

Never

and I mean never

join a game with me again.

or any of the 16 of us.

I promise you that you won't live down you're idocracy.

Salttttttt

[Gamma Emerald]

You are the one thing currently standing in the way of a work-together town. You knew what you were doing, don't play dumb.

This.

Democracy was a universal TR, which is hard for a large hydra.

Was a null spot for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

This game is now a shitfest.

Petition to restart it with a total reroll and new players to replace radical and comm. 1/12 (mod+players-comm and rat)

I don't think anybody should have to sift through this garbage and formulate reads off of it. It's unsightly and embarrassing. This post is made regardless of alignment.

If this is a shit idea just hit me over the head with a bat or something,

What are the odds Democracy is scum spamming the thread and making it unreadable

[Gamma Emerald]

But I was wrong, so wrong to hope for some bloody effort in on their part to work together with me one bit.

"My gamethrow is your fault"
Amazing how this continues to be your attitude. Truly amazing.
-smith

MFW one dayvig is a gamethrow
We have reached EpicMafia levels of horribleness.
BTW I also "gamethrew" on EM once, where my team won

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I can totally agree it's suboptimal. By a long shot. That doesn't equate to gamethrowing though.

-Shaziro

Okay
Because of this fiasco I'm officially declaring "I fucked up" when I force replaced CloudKicker in my game I modded. This is basically requesting that, and I don't agree.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was just going to explain why you're probably town too, HS

Hopefully we get a re-roll

- Lil Uzi Vert

Let me point out what deserves rerolling

[Gamma Emerald]

Micro 650: scum accidentally leaked
Open 680: wrong role was sent
In Aero's Drunken Christmas Party two players got the setup, and they were phased out. No reroll.
A prime example of this not being reroll worthy is Large 199. Mod failed to register the right kill, instead of rerolling just went onward.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah sure dude but that one post arthur made proving that he knew what you were trying to do disables that entire argument

and even if that isn't what you were trying to... congratz on creating 8 pages of nothing but pure shitposting and negativity for a ffucking gambit

That's why I'm really expecting Democracy to flip scum
No way Town makes such a shitfit over a gambit.

[Gamma Emerald]

CP both heads would not lack empathy here as town. They would be rightfully pissed alongside us.

I've said lots of times, if this was town shooting town, it was dumb and suboptimal. I also said that the hydra's rules have fallen to pieces, and that I wanted the vigroles in because I knew it was going to.

-Shaz

Our rules never fell apart until we got shot...?
You called that a "minor inconvenience", which I think is a fairly unreasonable stance to take.

-Nacho

No, Nancy posted out of hydra, slipping and breaking rotation.

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought they weren't flipped yet
TBH I'm not sad. Bus Driver is a iffy role

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes, because she was getting the post numbers correct for the links for our PT for VCA.

Which is very very very fucking clear, Shaz.
You were looking for a reason to have a fucking issue with us. And now you've made me actually log on to even fucking point out the obvious.
Our fucking rules weren't broken, you're just trying to be a jackass at this stage. At least YOUR jackassery is to advance your wincon, unlike Comm's.

--Jae

Fuck it.

I claim at least partial responsibility for the vig shot.

I am a neighborizer and neighborized CommKnight when he asked for the 4 person hood. When he proposed the Democracy shot I was like "alright then" until the Nancy slip then I was like "Fire away this isn't worth keeping". CommKnights questions were partially important. 2 was bullshit to see if they were paying attention or smth, but 1 and 3 were dead serious.

[Gamma Emerald]

Brian's -Updated- Reads that were Willfully Ignored for Some Reason (I know I'm a floater but >:[ )

Spoiler: Readslist

{Titus, randomidget, Rad, Almost50}
{Comm}
{Navy}
{HS, Math}
--------- Null Line
{Gerry, CP}
{Dreal, Gamma}

Spoiler: For Comm

This is the only time I will address your vig shot.

I think you're an above average player with an overinflated ego. While you do have good instincts, you're not a scumhunting god or SUPERAMAZEBALLS player by any means. It disappoints me that you came into this game with a preestablished stigma against us, calling us a troll for things we decided PREGAME and assumed a large majority of us weren't playing this game when we told you several times (and in the QUEUE thread) that we were limiting who could post each day. And Nacho even kindly offered some of my thoughts even though I'm not in the posting rotation.

When you willfully and knowingly play like a jackass and do things like intentionally pretending to 'befuddle a potential lie detector', you should expect people to scumread you or spew venom your way. It's not alignment indicative. It's a natural reaction by some players who don't like to play with what they consider to be Village Idiots.

Like, do you not understand the main reason we submitted the roles and mechanics we did (and we thought we would get one of the roles we submitted) was so we didn't have to deal with garbage play like what you just displayed?

I think you can be a good player. I thought you were fine in C9++. But your play here is just selfish, arrogant, and completely braindead. Please learn to take a step back in games and evaluate what you're doing and how other people may perceive you (REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK OPTIMAL OR GOOD PLAY IS), because I assure you what you did here is something a good number of players would blacklist you for.

-Brian (going back to floating)

Brian I like you. Please tell Gin that CommKnight isn't an all-bad player. Because I think if I had to pick, Comm is the one Ilike more. So saying "no more games with Comm" put me on Comm's side meaning I will lobby for Gins ejection.
Also don't do that since I've seen people fuck up WOTCs before. Get a thicker skin.

[Gamma Emerald]

Democracy, Town Bus driver, was shot Day 1.

Votes are reset.

At this point
TBH I need to reread and get some reads: that was full of good reactions

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith replaces Radical Rat.

VEDITHHHHH!!!!!!!
Holy shit I'm so excited to play with you

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith have you read

[Gamma Emerald]

I am pretty sure neighborizer was one of my submissions.

There's no day modifier though.

I got the ability to use it at daytime so eh idk
Kicks ass

[Gamma Emerald]

Comm your first problem was trusting Gamma to do any accurate scumhunting to begin with.

If comm can confirm Gammas peacemaker, then we have two conftowns, Comm and Gamma. Am I reading this right?

Okay not nice
I think my only game with you as Town was NYE Ball and that was a lovers game
TBQH I think lovers just fuck me up. I read the wrong one as scum in both pairs I was sure had scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I say I reread that fiasco before deciding a lynch

[Gamma Emerald]

I say I reread that fiasco before deciding a lynch

Why?

Because I want to see who I feel faked their reaction

[Gamma Emerald]

Also gamma when did you initiate your neighbourization?

I'll answer this now: when CK asked for the 4 person hood

[Gamma Emerald]

I wish Democracy would have answered me when I asked them like 15 times why people in their hydra was TRing random

I'll answers ya. random's approach to the Treestump claim was skeptical. He voted there and waited for the MOD to confirm it. That sounded Town enough for me. Other people accepted the claim at face value and never cared to verify it. random did not choose the easy route (i.e. did not flow with the current).

TBH I can get down with this idea

[Gamma Emerald]

Going to attempt to reread that shitfest

[Gamma Emerald]

Should I analyze past the flip? I already have a decent base.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm with gamma...pings for random for not reading, and for picking navy

I still haven't read from like page 31-37 or something?

Nah random is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is Titus conftown

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven't been?

[Gamma Emerald]

What

[Gamma Emerald]

This game needs some sort of kick to get going again
At this point I feel that scum is in HS/Titus/Gerry/Vedith

[Gamma Emerald]

This game needs some sort of kick to get going again
At this point I feel that scum is in HS/Titus/Gerry/Vedith

why

PoE

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah those are all townreads so I take serious issue there

[Gamma Emerald]

Um the only one out of those I could see as active lurking is drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

2 conf!town vs Titus... I think our reads have a little more weight.

You're the only conftown and your reads are proven garbage. But if you want to shout everyone down to lynch my second biggest townread after killing my first, well don't cry about it to me.

Um CommKnight confirmed my neighborizer role? And since he is conftown you have to trust him on that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Go read the role list, then sit in the corner while the people who actually pay attention run things.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus
I feel confident in this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus.
If Comm still had his shot, I'd have him pressure you. You are doing the same thing that Democracy got vigged for: ignoring answers that are obvious if you just

look

.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW dreal are you caught up by now?

[Gamma Emerald]

Fuck it
I'm quoting the exact post you need to read
If that doesn't get you to realize it you just don't care.

[Gamma Emerald]

Game Specifics:

Spoiler: Potential town roles

- Vengerul PGO
- Compulsive Bodyguard
- Watcher
- Role Cop
- Tracker
- Parity Cop
- Dayvig (1-shot)
- Vigilante
- Neighborizer
- Mason
- Forensic Investigator
- Vigilante
- Treestump
- NK-immune Miller Vig
- Masonizer
- Bus Driver
- Vengeful
- Neighborizer
- Cop
- Universal Backup
- Judge: Target player, target can not innitiate wagon
- Peacemaker: Neighborize them, if they mention it, they are roleblocked
- Determined Townie: Lives 1 day after NK/lynch, Alignment revealed, disabled at LyLo
- Town One-Shot Insane Public Daycop
- Lie Detector
- Bomb

Spoiler: Potential mafia roles

* Jailkeeper
* Strongman
* Follower
* Vengeful Strongman
* Strongman
* Role Cop
* Trestump
* Consigliere: rolecop
* Reflexive Roleblocker
* Universal Backup
* Vampire: Assume role with town with lowest post. Roles are told, strongman on target, etc
* 1-shot Silent Vote Passer: Vote passer transfers his vote to his team member via PM to mod. That member will have a vote that counts as 2 votes.
* Universal Backup

Spoiler: Potential daily special mechanic

# Players targeted by 2+ players gets 1x dayvig
# Once you place a vote, it will stay for the rest of the day.
# Magic Train style neighbor-making
# Once you place a vote, it will stay for the rest of the day. You may vote other players after you place a vote.
# Dead people majority gives a vote to someone
# NIGHTLESS
# Death caused during the day/night phase = TREESTUMP
# Unknown amount of deadline is set. Deadline is hidden.
# Player lynched that day becomes treestumped
# Dead players gain 1-shot night abilities determined by mod. Roles will be public and will be posted at the start of the day.
# PM to mod by any players ends day immediately. After the day, player PM the vote to the moderator.
# A Copy of whatever special mechanic rolled day 13
# "Day 1" double lynch

Spoiler: Sample Role PM

Hello hello. You are [Alignment].

[Role description here]

You win when all the mafia members are eliminated/You win when your faction controls at least 50% of the town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Um I'm neighborizer?
Also there's two in the role list so you probably just did a big stupid.

[Gamma Emerald]

HS.
LOOK AT THE TOWN ROLES. TWO NEIGHBORIZERS. WE CAN BOTH BE ONE.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't even know how the fuck that role works
So this whole time I've been fighting someone who had a weapon I couldn't fucking see

[Gamma Emerald]

Given that HS was one of the earliest posters I highly doubt they ever become the lowest

[Gamma Emerald]

So Titus. Are you still going to argue I'm

somehow

mafia? Math will tell you flying in the face of role interactions is suicide, and you're doing it with

confirmable

roles.

[Gamma Emerald]

If Titus knew and never mentioned it she's scum. No way she withholds that information as Town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also HS if you live to d2 please and I don't please neighborize CommKnight. I'd like to keep the masonry-in-all-but-name idea alive.

[Gamma Emerald]

I townread drealmerz rn
Didn't clumsy give a TR on drealmerz?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think drealmerz's general approach to us looks like how it would if he were town here in that he swings from us town to us scum to us town pretty rapidly and throughout it all he wants to policy lynch us. I'm not sure how much of it would chance with a scum role PM but I'm also not sure he's able to fake his general approaches very well as scum at all (most people read him for weird reasons so, in general, he has no need to fake that stuff).

Actually this is the post that made me townread drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

Also HS if you live to d2 please and I don't please neighborize CommKnight. I'd like to keep the masonry-in-all-but-name idea alive.

HS thoughts on this?

[Gamma Emerald]

What
Please tell me that doesn't mean what I think it means
KEEP THE MASONRY DREAM ALIIIIIIIIIIIIVE

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I wouldn't be this concerned about this if there weren't

3 fucking strongmen

in the list.
Come up with something original

holy shit

.

[Gamma Emerald]

What page was it?

[Gamma Emerald]

zzz
Looks more like a read on Democracy than drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

drealmerz I really want you and Alisae to get along since I like hanging out with both of you but you just hate each other for no frikkin reason.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you please at least be civil for me

[Gamma Emerald]

CommKnight doesn't try to be toxic

[Gamma Emerald]

can we stop shitting on alisae and start actually playing mafia tia

[Gamma Emerald]

Shit man
I had a similar thing happen to my first hamster I owned except it was completely my fault

[Gamma Emerald]

So?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going back through my notes tomorrow and finding why I townread CP because I'm not feeling good about them rn

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Could it be that Vedith is the town that CP took the place of in my PoE?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello Navy, anything you wish to discuss?

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That argument about HS is faulty if they just don't care about link up to conftown

[Gamma Emerald]

Can I get a reason?

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Math
I can't believe I have to point to this of all things, but look at "this game is for pieguyn" and say that again.

[Gamma Emerald]

Here it is.
He had a traitor that lived on after his team died, a nurse and backup IC with only the backup IC having a purpose, and some other weird af roles. Don't tell me what GiF "wouldn't do" setup wise.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think this game can be solved tonight. VOTE: Clumsy

If this flips scum, we are winning

This is L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright. I believe you.

[Gamma Emerald]

I still TR drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

I think drealmerz's general approach to us looks like how it would if he were town here in that he swings from us town to us scum to us town pretty rapidly and throughout it all he wants to policy lynch us. I'm not sure how much of it would chance with a scum role PM but I'm also not sure he's able to fake his general approaches very well as scum at all (most people read him for weird reasons so, in general, he has no need to fake that stuff).

Actually this is the post that made me townread drealmerz

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gerry
Lezgo

[Gamma Emerald]

So what're the odds of a Titus Dreal scumteam? I don't think it's a thing, I think Titus might just be being dumb here, but still a possibility y'know?

-Shaziro

Could be

[Gamma Emerald]

Worth remembering that scum knows what roles there are

I must've missed something the mechanics. Where does it say Scum are informed of the existing roles?

Also, the wiki says a single Mason is equivalent to an IC. Doesn't that mean they should be mod-confirmed somehow?

UNVOTE:

@Clumsy: Since you guys are the ones with that role, maybe it's a good idea for you to be asking if you should/would be confirmed. Thanks.

I'd rely on the great idea rules for a lone Mason

[Gamma Emerald]

Read the whole game

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but if he flips town?

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but if he flips town?

Why are you enteraining me if you think I'm scum

This will help me read you

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Who else is scum in your PoE Gerry? That's what I wanna know.

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If they lynch goes through while I'm out today (dentist, just kill me now instead pls), my scumreads are Dreal, Titus, and Gerry. I feel like Vedith and Gamma could be town, but I'm likely biased when it comes to them. HS I could see as scum possibly, but there are others I would want first. I have an hour before I have to leave, if anyone's here.

-Clumsy

This is módulo claims right

[Gamma Emerald]

VC 1.04

Clumsy Phoenix (4):

Almost50, Titus, drealmerz7, randomidget

Human Sequencer (1):

MathBlade

Titus (2):

Gamma Emerald, CommKnight

randomidget (1):

Vedith

Not Voting:

Everyone else

With

11

votes,

6

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2017-06-11 21:05:57)

CommKnight is in V/LA until 10th

Just saying CP, if you're town, then you should vote Titus. HS has expressed "doubt" in neighbourizing and thus I do not trust him to play ball any longer. (I suspect Titus had something to do with it, but Titus' reads have been trashier than a

trash panda

).

Also it's good to eliminate anyone who doubts Gamma being town. Even the slightest. He's conf!Town 100%. Titus has been throwing shade at Gamma ever since the claim.

Then you have PoE. Which still leaves Titus in the potential mafia pool.

Honestly, I'm only trying to help town. People's talk of reputation being lost and what not can take a long walk to the noose. Town needs to pull together, not ignore each other. The fact is, Gamma and I are town, 100%. If they decide to ignore us, listening to others would increase the chances of them being played by mafia.

kek at the bolded.
But more seriously, I feel what this town needs is a jam session. More on that in a bit. I wanna see who all has been in -the quintessential- jam session.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm currently discussing something with CommKnight in our hood. Expect good shit within 24 hours hopefully.

[Gamma Emerald]

Doesn't matter what Clumsy is at, we're not lynching him today.

STOP PLAYING ME AROUND. You're making me look BAD.

UNVOTE: Clumsy

I unvoted when they claimed, waited for your input, you implied it's OK to lynch them, I revoted them, and then you come up with this!!

Bad, BAD CommKnight.

i mean you could just ignore comm

They're magic train neighbors loser

[Gamma Emerald]

If they lynch goes through while I'm out today (dentist, just kill me now instead pls), my scumreads are Dreal, Titus, and Gerry. I feel like Vedith and Gamma could be town, but I'm likely biased when it comes to them. HS I could see as scum possibly, but there are others I would want first. I have an hour before I have to leave, if anyone's here.

-Clumsy

This is módulo claims right

What exactly does this mean? I know módulo is a term in computing, but I'm not totally sure what this means here.

-Clumsy

Modulo claims means without claims. It doesn't really have to do with computing I think.
I ask since HS is as conftown as me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo can you do something to make me see this at 5 PM
I wanna post something at the hour mark

[Gamma Emerald]

If they lynch goes through while I'm out today (dentist, just kill me now instead pls), my scumreads are Dreal, Titus, and Gerry. I feel like Vedith and Gamma could be town, but I'm likely biased when it comes to them. HS I could see as scum possibly, but there are others I would want first. I have an hour before I have to leave, if anyone's here.

-Clumsy

This is módulo claims right

What exactly does this mean? I know módulo is a term in computing, but I'm not totally sure what this means here.

-Clumsy

Modulo claims means without claims. It doesn't really have to do with computing I think.
I ask since HS is as conftown as me.

Then yes. Although, isn't HS only conf town if they go through with the neighborizing thing? Or did I miss something?

And modulo also has something to do with computing division or something. Didn't really care to learn more about it lol.

-Clumsy

That "conftown if the go through with the neighborizing thing" is just CommKnight being kinda a dork. She's been confirmed by random so she is as conftown as me.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: drealmerz7
Screw you!
VOTE: Gerryoat

[Gamma Emerald]

k cool

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Why would mafia fakeclaim that? It's actually a fairly poor fakeclaim IMO. Now they're locked into being mason: if Tracker/watcher exists they can't run the kill anymore until it's dead.

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VOTE: Titus
k cool

[Gamma Emerald]

Why the fuck am I not conftown

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Oh BTW

Do not end the day until me and CommKnight get something worked out.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW Gerry if you give a good answer to my question about your read on me I'll hard townread you for today and maybe tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

exactly as you say, it's not town motivation, it's ego motivation

it's anti-town enough I wouldn't mind lynching, but, I don't think she's scum (that doesn't mean I have a TR on her...)

I swear you're mocking CommKnight here...

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BTW Gerry if you give a good answer to my question about your read on me I'll hard townread you for today and maybe tomorrow

Because on first glance I see your game similar to how it was in that inspector scout game. And it didn't like your first post. But everyone told me HS was clear but didn't mention you so

Kay cool we've got a scum in Gerry. He's completely ignoring the fact that this game is completely different from "scout's game" (using quotes since I don't know which but it still apply to either of the two) and is trying to break apart the conftowns.
Not voting to avoid quickhamer though.

[Gamma Emerald]

please read

He's playing dumb on not knowing the rules, but he obiously hasn't read the game, because scum don't care about scum hunting.

oh
oh hey
I got something
you ready?
here it is
*says through a megaphone*

MAFIA DON'T HAVE TO READ THE GAME SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYONE'S ALIGNMENTS

[Gamma Emerald]

There is a small chance you're just terribad. And I'm holding onto my Rat read. Gamma can I still neighborhood with you? Or do you have 2 names submitted already

I can't hood until day 2 and I'm not hooding with you most likely.

[Gamma Emerald]

I see 0 reason to not lynch the scummiest player in the game. He will never be killed IF he's town.

But there are ways to be cleared. A rolecop or cop can check CP and see if he's telling the truth. Since he didn't claim the one miller role "night immune miller vig", a guilty is trusted, and rolecop can confirm or deny he is a mason.

[Gamma Emerald]

You're likely not the only investigative
Also while it makes sense I'm thinking "what if it was just a planned thing"

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you so hell bent on lynching him? You have a lie detector!

[Gamma Emerald]

I already showed you my POE. Who else would you wanna lynch?

The one where I was in your scumlist?
Try again.
IMO
VOTE: Gerryoat
I am more confident in this than before. His role does not align with his recent play IMO.

[Gamma Emerald]

Either way. How the hell did you guys unvote just cause he claimed mason. That's the safest claim.

Like, I don't expect this reaction out of someone who can check the claim to see if the claimer is telling the truth. I expect this out of scum who lost an easy mislynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

If I was maf, I wouldn't be that careless. My partners would tell me

Maybe you didn't think or care to ask

[Gamma Emerald]

A50 isn't inactive?

[Gamma Emerald]

What kinda stupid reason is that lol. So who are your scumreads then?

You Titus and someone else that I don't care to work out since I'm confident in what I've got.

[Gamma Emerald]

Um I'm in a hood with both d7 and Comm?
Also nice job walking back your read on me.
I'm done. Gerry has sealed his fate.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just lynch clumsy please. Gamma is clear. HS is likely clear and can be cleared tomorrow. I don't see any other lynch that makes sense right now.

SEE?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes, because she was getting the post numbers correct for the links for our PT for VCA.

Which is very very very fucking clear, Shaz.
You were looking for a reason to have a fucking issue with us. And now you've made me actually log on to even fucking point out the obvious.
Our fucking rules weren't broken, you're just trying to be a jackass at this stage. At least YOUR jackassery is to advance your wincon, unlike Comm's.

--Jae

Fuck it.

I claim at least partial responsibility for the vig shot.

I am a neighborizer and neighborized CommKnight when he asked for the 4 person hood. When he proposed the Democracy shot I was like "alright then" until the Nancy slip then I was like "Fire away this isn't worth keeping". CommKnights questions were partially important. 2 was bullshit to see if they were paying attention or smth, but 1 and 3 were dead serious.

Comm, can you confirm this -as not part of the Day 1 mechanic-? If so, that's 2 conf town already.

^also waiting for that confirmation from comm

Everyone is a neighborizer today.

What does this post mean

[Gamma Emerald]

There'sa very high chance of us dealing with a mafia strongman

[Gamma Emerald]

3/13+3/12+3/11 is our odds of having one strongman I believe

[Gamma Emerald]

Um if strongman exists you die n1 if you are town

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I would have done it too

[Gamma Emerald]

vedith if you're so confident i'm flipping scum, guarantee yourself as tomorrows lynch if i flip scum

k cool you're just trying to get us to lynch Vedith tomorrow no matter what

[Gamma Emerald]

Only way I'm scum is vampire and HS very likely never became lowest poster so

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith was so sure I was scum but is hesitant to take the deal, obv scum.

You're hammered you have no leverage

[Gamma Emerald]

Shaziro you are aware iraonavp got PERMABANNED?

[Gamma Emerald]

I PMed a pertinent question to the mod so once I get an answer that means he has logged on

[Gamma Emerald]

GiF answered my question but hasn't seen hammer
Shit mod
Eh doesn't surprise me, dude never updated the OP for pieguyn game iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

Gerry stop being a sore lynchee

[Gamma Emerald]

this is rly reminding me of oddrole 1 w/ gerry

Do tell...

me and gerry going against the town leaders and being apathy lynched.
like what just happened

Um random you haven't?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay what the fuck was day 2?
DON'T QUICKLYNCH YOU MORONS!

[Gamma Emerald]

You guys let Titus quickhammer?
Oh my fuck I'm just gonna put this out here.
IF TITUS QUICKHAMMERS SHE'S VERY LIKELY MAFIA.
Did Math note it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was hoping to live so I could make use of my ability to hunt for reflexive RB

[Gamma Emerald]

I really should mod a simple game for once.

I liked New York 198 and pieguyn game.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm with SAD on Comm. He's a alright player but he got a bit too invested. Last game with him he wasn't super invested and he played fairly well. Got lynched but wasn't a source of toxicity or anything.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I extend a "fuck you" to Titus for adding Vampire, then using it to call me mafia.

[Gamma Emerald]

*accepts apology and hug*

[Gamma Emerald]

That said I'm fairly sure Titus is the only scum player who earned their victory.

uh no, the victory goes to shit town

titus was obviscum after the hammer

dreal, no one sred me after the hammer who was left alive. Math or Gamma might given past history but Math was scum and we got a fast lynch due to your temper.

If you want to lynch scum better, you cannot insult players the moment they FoS you. Telling players they suck alienates them.

If we hadn't lynched Gerry he might have tbh