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So, any way we don't lynch the guy that can be immune to roleblocks?
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why the fuck would you lynch a PR this late in the game for that? you have 2 scums there and only one roleblock.In post 4047, Gamma Emerald wrote:PV can be immune to 2 serums.
2 serums are left.
I'm willing to lynch PV just because of that at this point tbh, because if he is scum he can't be prevented from killing
role stopper stops actions performed on target, also, kills.In post 4048, MathBlade wrote:I am confused.
How does PV claiming rolestopper be the reason shos is alive? Wouldn't we have seen less KPN? This seems rather convenient.
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and we do have less KPN than 2, including our vig
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Ircher is probably wrong, but that even confirms it further than keyser is not groupscumIn post 4068, PeregrineV wrote:
Did scum find SK?In post 2324, Ircher wrote:Gonna say that regardless of what I flip, I think an SK is likely, and I wouldn't be surprised if Keyser is the SK considering how little he has done this game compared to usual.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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In post 4082, Creature wrote:Town Doctor and Town Rolestopper looks like a powerful combination, not?
It would be after a massclaim, *possibly*, but...we have a busdriver, 2 kills a night and extra vig shots...and it would be powerful if I were a cop, but I haven't claimed a cop yet, now have I?In post 4083, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, that could result in a protective loop, but mafia have a bus driver too, so that can interfere.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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kelvin is practically conftown for any purpose, imo, too. I really cannot see any way that he can predict a death of someone on a night with 3 kills while being scum when no other vig claimed.
PV should protect me; and since he probably did as he says (well I *am* alive after a few nights with an SK and scum alive) he is as close to conftown as it gets too. this also fits with what rb would have done.
that's three.
I havegoodreasons to believe keyser is town; he is 99% not groupscum, and 1% SK.
we are left with {LUV, Creature, Gamma, Mathblade}.
I townread Mathblade.
I SK-read LUV. I prefer Gamma dead more than Creature since Gamma seems to always try and find ways to remove the conftown status from me, and this business is only profitable for some kind of scum.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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This is possible, hence we lynch LUV and not you today. "safe measures"In post 4101, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wasn't trying to doubtcast him any of those times. I was trying to make sense of the game.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Nah, I still have results to getIn post 4143, Kelvin Smith wrote:Also, I still think it might be preferable to randomly select who should be protected between me and you. But if we have to delete it beforehand, I'd rather you be protected. You've got a better grasp on the gamestate than me.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Yes.
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if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further tohelpthem crosskill and theywantto crosskill to avoid being killed at night, clearly.
By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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if there's anyone who objects to the above, please speak up now, and explain. LUV, if you're scum of any kind, you want to hunt the other - so say some bullshit about your role and tell us who you think the other scum is, if you're town obviously do that on both.
I think it's been stated already though, so I won't nudge if the hammer comes before he speaks, lol.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I disagree. What's better for you - to stand alone against 6 town or against 5 town AND an SK who can kill you? either of them want the other dead. you can always be lynched, but with the other alive, you can also be shot.In post 4167, MathBlade wrote:
I don't think this is a thing (Assume luv Town)In post 4163, shos wrote:if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further tohelpthem crosskill and theywantto crosskill to avoid being killed at night, clearly.
By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.
I think if the SK and scum know each other they would avoid cross killing here. Cross killing would be disastrous here.
I think a PV double kill is unlikely. More than likely scum will shoot PV or be blocked or claim scum was blocked. A smart SK doesn't kill who scum clearly want to kill. Not only would SK have to not cross shoot they also have to avoid hitting the same target as the scum. I think the SK kills me or Kelvin. Me because I am obvTown to the conf town and that is one more lynch that won't happen and Kelvin because he is in the masonry and by claim.
Scum and SK can't afford a cross kill as I said earlier in the hood. At the end of the day right now there is one conf town by mod shos. Two conf towns my claim Kelvin and Peregrine V.
So a smart SK doesn't shoot who scum shoots.
Looking at 4v1v1 or 3v1v1 tomorrow if LUV is Town.
If LUV flips some kind of killing scum then by PoE we should just be able to do Gamma/Creature then the other and GG. This case honestly is pretty much GG we win at this point.
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Getvthat done, will ya? You most likely die, so also letout your readsin each case for a flipIn post 4166, PeregrineV wrote:I would like to look over more of the vote counts before ending the day.
Tomorrow afternoon would be fine, since I'm usually out of pocket on weekends.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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this entire post was fake, lolIn post 4192, MathBlade wrote:
Ircher was a guilty people.In post 2250, shos wrote:
Even worseIn post 2239, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Regardless, I need to reevaluate a bit.
Shos, what are your thoughts on Nero now that RC and Titus flipped town?
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I had a 1s rolecop ability and a 1s cop ability
And this time my guilty is real, Ircher is scum aligned.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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and math, scum and the SK have to eliminate each other to win. their optimal play is to kill each other, which is good for us. They would be statistically stupid to try and shoot town. Trust me, I'm an engineermathematician.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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In post 4204, MathBlade wrote:In post 2252, shos wrote:[the rolecop was how I knew wheme was vanilla, which isnwhy O thought screenplay was town]In post 2256, shos wrote:Also I eequest to be either docced or watched tonight
Don't worry, any lies inthread I make are to good ends. Anyway, in Candor you know all the truthIn post 2271, shos wrote:for the record, I'm bullshitting my ASS in this game, lol. I didn't actually get a guilty on Ircher xD
being conftown allows you to be so ballsy
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Nah I'm just kidding
Please stop lying as conf Town. It doesn't help.
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I think PV has had enough time to do whatever he wished. LUV hasn't posted in over 2 days, I think he's just about given up, meaning he's not town.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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This kinda makes me think it is you >.>In post 4255, Keyser Söze wrote:- the SK is not concerned about Shos' INVESTIGATION roleIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Gamma was blocked tonight, so unless SK is strongman (which I can find) is cleared.
Priscila, 1-Shot Vig (Tris Prior) [N4: momo] n4 had e nightkills, this is clear
Keyser Söze, Town Loved (Tobias Eaton) - definitely could be. Btw, I dont think you ever claimed before. Also if you have more avilities, say'em now.
PeregrineV, Rolestopper (Jeanine Matthews) [N1: Radiant Moonlight, N2: shos, N3: shos, N4: shos, N5:shos] considering I survived from N2 a bunch of nights with loads of scum alive, and last scum cannot be groupscum due to amount of kills n4, this claim has to be true.
MathBlade, Ascetic Townie (Natalie Prior)....possible.
Imo we lynch Keyser. Loved really is useless when it is all v SK, and poe gives only him and Math.
With u alive, I have firm townreads in. Remaining are: keyser, Mathblade.shos, Gamma, PereV, Priscila
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I think the only good eplanation for the nightkill is that the sk is the ascetic. That is why he doesnt fearme.
Btw, I am a rolecop.
I copped NC, keyser, ircher, and others i dont remember.
And I think we lynch Math; if he is town, keyser.
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I can vote mathblade. His explanations make no sense imo.
We previously thought he was tosn, maybe that is why he felt confident to keep us alive.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Wrong about what.?
I know from the mod that yhe only modifier keyser has is loved. He crumbed it hard apparantly, too.
Ive given math some chance to save face in the hood, and I was not convinced. So I am placing my vote. This should be L-1.
VOTE: MathBlade
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Well, luckily we arent at mylo or lylo.
PV will target me tonight, and I will rolecop him. If he is the SK, we will know, since sk rolestopper is completely inpossible. If he is town, I will know, and we will be able to deduce between the remaining via poe.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I am conftown
Priscilla has vigged on a night when three deaths happened, so I cannot see any way she is not really a 1s vig
PV will be copped by me tonight (rolestopper SK is not existent)
So with your "mislynch" we lynch PV is my cop shows anything different or I die or am blocked, and otherwise, lynch gamma
If you are town, why are you against this? You think this can fail somehow?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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[]======In post 4372, shos wrote:=====[]In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Your entire grip of the game depends on Creature suddenly deciding to rolevlock someone else, when we specifically called that he blocks gamma.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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In post 4161, Creature wrote:Btw, faction serums can't be blocked at all, so it's alright if I block Gamma.In post 4162, shos wrote:Lynch LUV, block gamma. Gamma will priest creature, so that we can know if it happened
Why would he wifom when he has a 100% win jn the hand?In post 4170, Creature wrote:Well, okay, so we ready to end the day?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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well. phew.
I think this was one of my better town games. apart from giving up on the cop ability, I'm very satisfied.
I never imagined Math as SK before the LUV flip. amazing.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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VOTE: KelvinIn post 4451, Kelvin Smith wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to personally attack everyone and also to call the outcome shit. Your move, shos.In post 4450, shos wrote:very good game guys. Thank you everyone for having a nice large with no personal attacks and a nice outcome.
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if only we copped zakk on n1 as we planned. You get a plan, you stick to it, guys..In post 4497, Nero Cain wrote:eh it happens and Zack had the hood p much pocketed.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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When there's a plan, there's a plan. No matter though, that's how we learn :-}
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