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With the potential special mechanics list I don't think the usual RVS is a good idea. I certainly don't want my random vote to stick.
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WHAT?? Navy is Voteless??In post 5, GuyInFreezer wrote:VC 1.00
Not Voting:drealmerz7, CommKnight, Gamma Emerald, Clumsy Phoenix, Almost50, Democracy, randomidget, Radical Rat, Mathblade, Titus, Human Sequencer, Gerryoat
With12votes,7to lynch
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Shall we vote Navy already?? That silent voter is a scum role and I don't see anything in the town roles list to cause a Navy to be voteless. Maybe I'll do another revision of both lists just to be absolutely sure.
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Well, alright then..
VOTE: Navy
Half-serious/half-RVS vote for now. Until we get to the bottom of this voteless thing.
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I'm town.
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@Gamma: Good to know. Perhaps you want to explain to me what a Parity Cop is??
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*Sigh*In post 38, gerryoat wrote:
How can it be serious if the person hasn't even talked yet?In post 28, Almost50 wrote:Well, alright then..
VOTE: Navy
Half-serious/half-RVS vote for now. Until we get to the bottom of this voteless thing.
Check the VC. Navy is VOTELESS. Now Check the roles. The only way -I could find- for someone to be voteless is if they willingly give their vote to a "teammate", and that teammate becomes a double voter. So, Navy is very likely scum for that alone.
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In my experience, Treestumps CAN vote UNTIL they are confirmed by the mod.In post 39, Radical Rat wrote:How does magic train work?
Also, Navy being voteless probably means treestump.
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In my experience (and it was NOT on MS): You publicly ask the mod to Treestump you, just like the IC asks to be confirmed.In post 58, gerryoat wrote:Wait, in mafia scum, do you have to turn yourself into a treestump at night? or is it automatic. On epicmafia you have to turn yourself into one at night.
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But there is aversion where it only gets Treestumped upon death (either by lynch or NK). I personally have never seen a Treestump that starts the game as voteless w/o being confirmed. I only saw it twice though.
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What initial VC?? Here's VC 1.00:In post 64, gerryoat wrote:because on their initial vote count, Navy could vote.
Clearly says with TWELVE VOTES. And then we have Navy MISSING from the "Not Voting" list.In post 5, GuyInFreezer wrote:VC 1.00
Not Voting:drealmerz7, CommKnight, Gamma Emerald, Clumsy Phoenix, Almost50, Democracy, randomidget, Radical Rat, Mathblade, Titus, Human Sequencer, Gerryoat
With12votes,7to lynch
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Do you know how the Lie-Detector works??In post 79, Radical Rat wrote:In that case, I will agree that softing should wait.
However,aftereveryone has made their "I Am Town" post, if a lie detector does exist, please claim and give us the scumteam.
At this point, I believe the best course of action would be to lynch the lie detector, in order to verify the claim, then start lynching scum D2 if they were telling the truth, or play normally if not.
A Lie Detector can only check ONE post (or sometimes one sentence quoted from a post.) Anyway, they can only check ONCE per cycle (whether it be a "DAY" Lie Detector, or a normal one that gets their checks at night).
It is silly to think a lie detector could check everyone at once. That would be breaking the game, don't you think? (It's as good as a Cop checking everyone at once).
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Hey Comm. Do you want to be my Neighbour? I think I'm willing to take that leap of faith now that you posted. Not "confident" you are Town, but leaning so.
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Telepathy??In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Comm I suggest you pick A50 instead
But, seriously? Why did you pair me with Comm in particular?
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Guys. Lie Detectors do not use tart cards or magic balls. They check if what you say is true in the sense that you KNOW IT IS. Obviously, if I said "Comm is Town" when I have no mod-confirmation he is the result will be "No Result", because I'm not telling the truth but I'm not lying either. I'd be stating an opinion.In post 89, CommKnight wrote:OOOH and 7.) Get everyone to claim 2 people with themselves to be TOWN. That way you can also catch potential scum buddies. (If scum claim X and Y are also town and they are mafia, it will appear as a LIE). Or we can even get specific people to claim specific other people are TOWN and if it's a lie, you catch two people. BANG BANG MOFOS.
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We both PM the mod with our choices (Mine is you, yours is me). Then we can talk some. (I stayed up to decide on my neighbour, so I will talk to you later in the neighbourhood).In post 92, CommKnight wrote:Alright, I'll take A50, we'll double team the scum and make them shit bricks. So I pick A50 or A50 picks me, how we doing this?
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Try again. If there's a lie-detector they certainly can. If there's a normal alignment Cop they sure can (well, almost.. since there's still the miller thing that could be a GF type of role id Scum aligned). There are other mechanics and other tactics, so I think the possibility is realistically existent.In post 106, Human Sequencer wrote:
dude i dont think anybody is gonna be able to hard clear anybody else as town this hard by the end of n1 lmaoThey can entrap scum into a claim that is provably wrong. Or of course you can pass investigative results to another player so they can out the information in the case of your death. Multiple reasons to want to neighbourize with town and keep the chat to PT.
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Nobody needs to out what they submitted, simply because the mod made then quite clear as he listed then in the players list order. That said, I think everybody now knows it's unlikely anyone got one of their own suggested roles. *Sigh* (I REALLY wanted to be a Forensic Investigator)In post 110, Titus wrote:Also I submitted the judge, the neighborize and shut up about each other, and the early lynch mechanics.
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Again: Treestumps NEED to be confirmed by the mod.In post 142, Navy wrote:I am also a treestump.
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Mastina is not an active poster today.In post 173, Democracy wrote:@Almost50: Why didn't you mention anything about our hydra? Your first priority in British Monarchy Mafia was sorting the hydra that was composed of Gin, Mastina, and I and this game we don't even get so much as a hello
But seriously; I was a VT in DoY. It didn't matter much to me if those who didn't know me scum read me, and I was OK getting lynched on D1. There are no VTs in this game, so it follows I am NOT a VT. I'll get to sorting your slot by other means though. Just you wait for it.
P.S. Do you have a "How to sort/read Nacho" wiki page??
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Stop it!In post 174, MathBlade wrote:
I'm town.In post 159, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: MathBlade
Quoting gerry's claim here seems like an attempt to befuddle the detector.
Just have a BLANK post with no quotes and nothing typed in but "I'm Town", please.
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And now I'm officially worried about him!!In post 207, MathBlade wrote:Comm Knight is fucking obvTown.
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*sigh*In post 264, Randomnamechange wrote:if they dont show up on VC they are conf tree stump
random is TOWN.
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@Ari: Tell me a secret only Town!You would know.
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forensic investigatorIn post 292, Gamma Emerald wrote:What even is forensic investigator
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As random had ponted out, a Treestump is an ineligible vote target (actually ineligible kill target by any method, as they are already dead. Not sure if they can be copped though).In post 295, Democracy wrote:A50, maybe it's an auto-stump? Like, pre-stumped?
This would make it so they need not be confirmed. Amirite?
So, I'm waiting for a VC to show whether they are listed with votes on them or not. That should confirm them even w/o an explicit mod confirmation.
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@Gamma: Do you see why or do you still not understand?In post 312, Randomnamechange wrote:basically if it was scum vote stealing shenanigans my vote will show up and navy is conf scum.
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I thought your question "How?" was directed at my post just above it stating random is Town. If it wasn't, then ignore me.In post 314, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why for what?
@Math: Yup. Just like that one. It was at a pagetop and I was responding to the post on the page before that, so..
Also, nobody claimed PGO. Should we assume nobody got Vengeful-PGO? Cuz SHIT if that Role exists and is MAFIA.
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@Math: 20/20 *Thumbs Up*
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Wouldn't it be good if we all kept track of the vote count? O already had my vote on Navy since 28 and never unvoted. Navy is a Treestump (but is she Town or Scum? Only time will tell.)In post 435, Democracy wrote:Okay, so who is going to vote Navy to test the claim?
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Ir doesn't matter. A Treestump is a Treestump. You can sit on them, or you can use then as a chopping table. but you can neither lynch nor kill them because they're already dead. They're essentially a spirit .. a ghost that is haunting us, and we don't even know if they're Casper (the friendly ghost) or the one from Haunted Hill (whatever their name was).
Associatives won't work either, because if I was scum I would be calling them scum all the way to hell and back and it wouldn't matter. It isn't even bussing, technically.
So, anyway.. I've looked into my crystal ball and it told me Comm is Town. It also says gerry & random are both Town. Unfortunately ot didn't catch any scummy vibes just yet, so I guess I'll need to recharge the batteries or something.
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Also, when in doubt, substitute "o" with "a". For some odd reason I can't get used to this keyboard I'm using here and I keep hotting "o" for "i". (The old one O used to hit "a" for "s")
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If you seriously think that was "baiting you to claim" then I suggest you confine yourself to Newbie games ONLY.In post 475, Human Sequencer wrote:@Almost50In post 450, Human Sequencer wrote:@A50, why did you feel the need to bring up what you did in 288? FWIW, I'm not claiming my role at all in this post, but it kinda looks here like you're baiting me to claim that I'm not cop/lie detector to narrow down nightkills, which, once again, I'm not doing in this post. I don't really see any town motivation in there at all-- how does that information help town? It's not even factually correct, these roles get their results at the end of night 1, when the hoods expire. Pretty questionable post all round, elaborate a little here on what was going through your head when you wrote this?
OK midget picked up on kinda the same thing immediately after but I would still like a response.
I mean, you said "something" and I said "something to the contrary", and it doesn't even matter who's right and who's wrong here, but HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET "BAITING" from it?
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1- It is harsh, and it was meant to be. If you're "trying to work with me" don't misinterpret my words and accuse me of having "no town motive" behind them.
2- A lot of players? I would like to run a census over the site to confirm how many players actually would. (Note: None in this game so far, Not even you.)
3- Well, I'm not cop/lie detector. Happy? Do you even believe me when I say I'm not X role?? You think this is Truth or Dare?
4- You don't need to come up with a feasible town motive for anything I say or do. What you do need to do is find the SCUM motive if you think I'm scum.
That said, I'm half in-between on reading you as a VI (that's short for Village Idiot) or Scum posturing (trying to look like they're doing something productive). I'll take my time to decide.
In fact, you just made me claim not being X or Y, so you must be scum. It can't be that I'm being ridiculous AT ALL. It's you and what you said and why did you feel the need to say what you said?
VOTE: Human Sequencer
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OK, so "the late" Democracy thought this was Scum. I'll roll with that.
VOTE: Clumsy
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Comm is confirmed a Dayvig, and that is a TOWN Role (with not listed equivalent in the Scum Roles). Does that change anything to you?In post 915, Titus wrote:Either the moderator is misleading by leaving out day modifiers or Gamma and CommKnight are doing beyond silly gambits.
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Spoiler:
This is what my skim yielded, and the one person who didn't scum read you was LUV (who also had me as NULL), so I'm sorry to disappoint you. My vote stays.
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He is in a good with me, yes (the D1 mechanic) and he did tell me Gamma was a neighbourizer already (at first he said he was in a neighbourhood with "another player" but didn't name them, and saud he will confirm them if they choose to out. Then Gamma did claim here and Comm confirmed him and he told me so in the quick topic even before I got to reading today).
So, CHILL and accept then for what they are. Chances are one if them is going to be NK'd tonight (I can't find anything but a Compulsive BG for a protection role), so you can safely look elsewhere.
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Personally, I'm assuming it was a pre-game action. I've never seen a pre-stumped Treestump before either. *Shrug*
All I know is Comm is 100% Town, and thus I wouldn't look into what he does or says with suspicion. If I don't get it, I'd still assume it's for a reason or has an explanation. THAT is how you treat 100% conf!Town.
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I'll answers ya. random's approach to the Treestump claim was skeptical. He voted there and waited for the MOD to confirm it. That sounded Town enough for me. Other people accepted the claim at face value and never cared to verify it. random did not choose the easy route (i.e. did not flow with the current).In post 960, gerryoat wrote:I wish Democracy would have answered me when I asked them like 15 times why people in their hydra was TRing random
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@MOD: A VC WOULD BE GREAT!
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Ok, I'm officially an idiot.
I log in, enter a game thread, see who's posting, add notes next to their name, and suddenly discover this isn't the file I should be editing in the first place.
Make of that what you will.
On other news, Vedith's last post looks like a scum claim. I'm giving you time to remedy the situation before I decide you're the right lynch after all.
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I must've missed something the mechanics. Where does it say Scum are informed of the existing roles?In post 1227, Human Sequencer wrote:Worth remembering that scum knows what roles there are
Also, the wiki says a single Mason is equivalent to an IC. Doesn't that mean they should be mod-confirmed somehow?
UNVOTE:
@Clumsy: Since you guys are the ones with that role, maybe it's a good idea for you to be asking if you should/would be confirmed. Thanks.
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Shit! Was I supposed to find THAT too? Like, why is this not included in the opening post of THIS thread?In post 1255, MathBlade wrote:
Oh I can't has read.In post 1254, Human Sequencer wrote:In post 2551, GuyInFreezer wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:Pick 2 town roles, 1 mafia role, and 1 special mechanic. The choices will be public. Mafia will know which roles are not picked. Try anything too silly and I guarantee you it will come back and bite your neck. No third party exist in this game. Otherwise, I would've asked you to submit one role for third party.
Gotta go!
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I'm tempted to test your scum hunting skills right here and now, but I think I should wait and see for myself.In post 1256, Randomnamechange wrote:CommKnight, Human Sequencer, Gamma Emerald
Clumsy Phoenix
Gerryoat, Mathblade
Titus, Almost50
Navy
drealmerz7
Vedith
these are my reads atm, sorry about the wait my computer completely died
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Can I at least consult with Comm about this?In post 1281, Titus wrote:
This is why we should be lynching Clumsy. Safest claim out there.In post 1279, Almost50 wrote:Mafia will know which roles are not picked.
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Ok, somebody please shoot me. I TOTALLY missed HS claim!!!!!!!!!!
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You just don't know how to work with Comm, but that's beside the point. The point here is myself, Comm & Gamma are a Town block, much as you appear to be with HS & random. If all 6 of us can work together this game should be a walk in the park.In post 1284, Titus wrote:
*shrug* He's VLA and shot the most obvious town in the game. I don't think much of him given he blames the obvtown and shot him for not TRing who he said. If you want to, go ahead but I don't think much will come beyond CommKnight insisting you see things his way or else.In post 1283, Almost50 wrote:
Can I at least consult with Comm about this?In post 1281, Titus wrote:
This is why we should be lynching Clumsy. Safest claim out there.In post 1279, Almost50 wrote:Mafia will know which roles are not picked.
We may or may not have a Cop, Role Cop, Lie Detector and Masonizer, all of which are investigative roles. If only ONE of us is any of these roles we can easily win this game based on INFORMATION and not just hunches and pride collisions.
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Also, neighbourizers can self confirm by using their action on someone from the other 3. Scum are likely to shoot one of them though, but that in itself backfires on them because it confirms the other 2.
*Run to double check CERB is not in the game* *Sigh of relief*
You know, he could have somehow confirmed Scum as Town and manipulated the whole thing.
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I added myself all by myself because I know my role and alignment. To me; I'm as confirmed as Comm is (I have the PM to say I'm Town and he proved his role which is a Town role).In post 1288, Titus wrote:Also, when did you get added to that town block?
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It's a theory in mind that I'm still working on. If a Neighbourizer does get killed then I will reveal it. If not, then I'll leave it on the back burner for now.In post 1289, Titus wrote:
? How does anyone get confirmed with a neighborizer dying?In post 1287, Almost50 wrote:Also, neighbourizers can self confirm by using their action on someone from the other 3. Scum are likely to shoot one of them though, but that in itself backfires on them because it confirms the other 2.
*Run to double check CERB is not in the game* *Sigh of relief*
You know, he could have somehow confirmed Scum as Town and manipulated the whole thing.
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I don't care what everyone else thinks. I'm nobody's spokesman. I am my own spokesman and the opinions and views expressed in posts are my own and only express what >I< think from my own PoV.In post 1300, Titus wrote:
That's sketch. By that standard, everyone is conftown. If CommKnight and Gamma TR you, then you'd be in the block.In post 1290, Almost50 wrote:
I added myself all by myself because I know my role and alignment. To me; I'm as confirmed as Comm is (I have the PM to say I'm Town and he proved his role which is a Town role).In post 1288, Titus wrote:Also, when did you get added to that town block?
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So be it then
VOTE: Clumsy
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STOP PLAYING ME AROUND. You're making me look BAD.In post 1349, CommKnight wrote:Doesn't matter what Clumsy is at, we're not lynching him today.
UNVOTE: Clumsy
I unvoted when they claimed, waited for your input, you implied it's OK to lynch them, I revoted them, and then you come up with this!!
Bad, BAD CommKnight.
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I mean, he's the only CONFIRMED Town player right now. This very fact means I know he's not being manipulative. YES, he COULD be wrong, but in an honest way.In post 1355, Randomnamechange wrote:
i mean you could just ignore commIn post 1353, Almost50 wrote:
STOP PLAYING ME AROUND. You're making me look BAD.In post 1349, CommKnight wrote:Doesn't matter what Clumsy is at, we're not lynching him today.
UNVOTE: Clumsy
I unvoted when they claimed, waited for your input, you implied it's OK to lynch them, I revoted them, and then you come up with this!!
Bad, BAD CommKnight.
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@Comm: Fine. Me ago follow you today. Me ago develop me own reads upon a flip.
VOTE: Titus
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Huh???In post 1386, gerryoat wrote:CommKnight = clear
Navy = Doesnt matter (sry)
Democracy (Katsuki, et al.): , Town Bus Driver, killed Day 1.
randomidget= Prob town
Vedith =Prob Town
Human Sequencer = Clear?
Gerryoat = Town
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Mathblade = can read better later
Titus = dont wanna lynch
Almost50 = dont wanna lynch
drealmerz7 = can read better
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Gamma Emerald
Clumsy Phoenix (Clumsy + Shaziro) = the prefered lynch.
This is my PoE for today.
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VOTE: ClumsyIn post 1481, gerryoat wrote:Can we please lynch clumsy
Frankly, I see no scum incentive behind wanting to lynch a Mason over anyone else. It's not an investigative and it's not a protective and it's not informative and it isn't even confirmed in the sense that someone else can vouch for them.
Gerry is TOWN.
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Gamma, here's how I would think if I was Mafia: I'd stay away from the two neighbourizers, the 1-shot Vig who had already used it up, and the Mason. These are not as dangerous at the start of the game.In post 1499, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Like, I don't expect this reaction out of someone who can check the claim to see if the claimer is telling the truth. I expect this out of scum who lost an easy mislynch.In post 1307, gerryoat wrote:Either way. How the hell did you guys unvote just cause he claimed mason. That's the safest claim.
I would be shooting one of the neighbourizers to stop the info from being secretly transmitted between Townies, and would try to lynch someone who hasn't claimed (Let's not forget Scum know what Roles are in play, and I can't imagine "Mason" to be their most feared one).
Gerry is now outed and is likely to eat a bullet instead of you/HS tonight. If he is still alive tomorrow we can reevaluate. We have the choice to even leash him tonight if needs be. There isn't even an "active" Roleblocker in game, so either gerry returns a result or he is NK'd.
Then again, that's only how >I< would have gone about it.
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