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but bella is a penguin!In post 34, GameNBurger wrote:VOTE: bellaphant
Inb4 both mobs are picking opposite sheep votes to kick the game off [/s]
Also doggos love you, cats don't
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VOTE: Tenshii
Serious vote. Plz wagon with me for wooly sheep pictures!
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Tenshii is easy to readIn post 38, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:VOTE: Tenshii
Serious vote. Plz wagon with me for wooly sheep pictures!
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Vig theseIn post 33, Hawk wrote:Hey Everybody!
Hope we all have a good game.
VOTE: Siblings
Cats are better than dogs.
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Wowie MM4, look at you.In post 14, MarioManiac4 wrote:nah, either vig just shoots whoever or they shoot the common scumreads
telling vig to shoot you p1 is WIFOM and unhelpful
So helpful.
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MM4, why do you write things that sound fake all the time =(In post 40, MarioManiac4 wrote:I am so not looking forward to failing to read Balki this game.
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Yeah Doggy.
You better get it right.
I'll have you know I like CATS!
Not Dogs.
So if you don't behave yourself, you get the handcuffs and cats-of-nine-tails
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How did you know it was a joke right away?In post 89, Kawso wrote:My post was joke analysis to a joke post haha
Balki seems to be taking this pressure quite defensively, which could either mean scum/ PR. I don't see him being vanilla. Personally I can't say either, as in the game I played with him, he was rarely questioned.
Seems like we're still in the gradual stages of switching from Joking random voting to proper discussion, so I'd like to see some opinions on some of the other people not being discussed heavily
And why do you think outing a potential PR is a good idea?
Like, I hate this post, but I'm wary of your play.
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Bruh, no one even uses this language on MS.In post 91, Balki B wrote:
It's all good, we're not Greek, so no need to use their backwards language.In post 87, GameNBurger wrote:Sorry I thought ethos meant emotion not ethics, is it pathos I'm looking for? I thought that had to do with credibility of the author?
Ethosis appeal to ethics, and generally includes an attempt to persuade based on the credibility of the speaker.
Pathosis appeal to emotion, usually pity, and also a lazy buzzword for "scummy" used by poor players of forum mafia.
It's a red hairing.
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In post 185, Almost50 wrote:As for sorting me, you can treat me as a Town IC in every game you play with me (except when I'm Scum, but you won't even be able to tell if you're going by where I vote).
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You Monster.In post 191, Almost50 wrote:
Urgh!In post 188, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:In post 185, Almost50 wrote:As for sorting me, you can treat me as a Town IC in every game you play with me (except when I'm Scum, but you won't even be able to tell if you're going by where I vote).
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NAIL!! Kill that albino Emu, will you?
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ECHO!In post 221, EchoVision wrote:Welcome to Open 690: Kill All Townies!
You are a Mafia Godfather.
Your partners are {redacted}, who is a Mafia Goon, and {redacted}, who is a Mafia Doctor.
Abilities:
-During the day phase, you may vote and post as normal.
-If investigated by a Cop, you will not return as a member of the mafia.
-You share a factional PT, located {redacted}, where you may talk during each night.
-You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill.
no day chat only night chat if im interpreting correctly
YOU'RE CLAIMING WRONG!
THIS IS HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SCUMCLAIM.
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In post 244, Almost50 wrote:Doncha worry, Trans. I is here for the rescue. I'll pull them off ya, tight now.
VOTE: Siblings
Oops! Somebody spelt glue over here. I'm STUCK! HELP!!
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Now why is it bad? Come up, we're not newbies, we can go beyond surface level analysis and beyond just saying "this is bad."In post 251, CommKnight wrote:
Because it's like a trash can. Garbage. (That and you never bothered to explain the vote, so why should I care about a single naked vote?)In post 247, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:Hey Comm, since you're here.
Why haven't you poked at my vote yet?
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That's because he's scum. Aggressive players aren't usually this tame unless they're trying to be careful, which they won't happen as town because when you're town, you feel comfortable on going all out.In post 258, Balki B wrote:Odd response from someone who said, without reasons, that my discussion with GNB is more than likely not TvT.
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Good job.
Now let me hardpush CommKnight.
CommKnight is playing unusually passive rigbht now, in Bill Wurtz and in Timeshift there was more too him starting out. Here there's nothing
It's like he's a fucking ghost. He's not aggressive, he's cautious, and here he feels completely absent from the game.
Everyone of his posts reads to me as "Investigate me"
Posts like 11 and 13 read to me as "Yeah yeah, whatever, right now I'm trying to be helpful while not really adding anything to the game on page 1." I mean like yeah, it's page 1, but when I read those posts, they read to me as if he doesn't actually care about them. It reads fake.
His Game vote is just way too passive from him for my liking, and from town!Comm I would expect more from that.
245 I feel like Comm is holding himself back here, and that doesn't happen you roll town. Same complaint about 251 and 252. I explain more about it in 259
249 just straight up, does not add anything to the game.
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Even this shit reads fake to me.In post 263, CommKnight wrote:
What kind of dance Ali? I'm good at slow songs.In post 254, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:I've been mostly playing reactionary right now because I've been waiting for you.
Now that you're here, I wanna dance
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Seriously though, when have you played with me that I care much about being voted/lynched. I'll fight to lynch scum, but I don't SR people for voting me and I don't pretend I'm perfect.
But if you want a reaction to a naked vote, you get a naked answer of it being bad. If you care to explain the vote more, then let's go. otherwise this dance might be a cold one.
There would just be more flair here if Comm is town, and that flair is absent.
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A. Quite frankly, a vig doesn'tneedyour permission to shoot whenever. It just shoots. It adds nothing. The joke feels out of place, so it's fake.
B. Okay, what have those reactions told you? Because I'm not seeing this, and I'm not seeing you do anything with them. And I get you're trying to be sassy here, but it reads fake.
C. I'm not saying you need to be in their face, I'm saying there would be more, and it would read more genuine if you were town. It doesn't, and it looks like you're holding back. The defensiveness reads fake here.
D. Comm getting defensive here doesn't happen by town. Town doesn't say "Well, you would rather I just not talk about my reads or ignore questions" the way he does here. And they certainly don't say "Hey Ali, your questions are shit, I'm going to ignore them instead of giving answers when I can/remember to/care to." It comes from scum with the mentality of "Hey, I am going to try to make you feel bad for hunting me, and disrupt you in your attempts to scumhunt."
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Town!Comm answers the question.In post 280, CommKnight wrote:
"Arguing" I don't think that word means what you think it means.In post 275, Flubbernugget wrote:Comm
If you don't care about being voted/lynched, why are you arguing at the case against you?
Scum!Comm dodges it like this.
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What fuckin point did I have coming out with my SR on you on page 1? or when I voted you? How is this even AI? Why is ignoring A50 odd?In post 290, CommKnight wrote:Also there's the fact the Siblings didn't really vote or focus on me till I voted them. (Completely ignored A50 is also odd).
I voted you way before you voted me. Like on page 5 or something.
I just started hardpushing you now because there was no point in really coming out with this read till now.
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If it was there, I wouldn't be hardpushing you right nowIn post 295, CommKnight wrote:They're like "Oh no, you're not as aggressive as you usually are, you must be scum." Yet the same aggressive sarcasm I do quite often (always seems to find a way into my games) is still there, they're just not catching onto it one bit.
Guess not every bulb in the box can be bright.
You're holding back, and getting defensive. It's because you're scum here. If you were town, your attitude towards my push would be completely different.
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Why aren't you answering my questions in 294?In post 296, CommKnight wrote:Oh yeah, they did vote me back then (but no reason was attached until I voted them with A50 to piss them off).
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You would be moving your vote onto scum, which is goodIn post 297, MarioManiac4 wrote:Why are you tempting me so hard to switch my vote from scum, CommKnight?
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Your lack of abrasiveness is scummy.In post 298, CommKnight wrote:
You should vote Siblings with us and watch Ali make up some case about you too. XDIn post 297, MarioManiac4 wrote:Why are you tempting me so hard to switch my vote from scum, CommKnight?
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You're holding back here. If you're town you don't have any reason to hold back even though your read on me is terrible because I'm fuckin obvtown dude. You will be going at me with full force, and you're not doing that for some reason. Posts like 290 are not posts by town!Comm. 290 specifically reads really fake and out of place for you, because you don't need to be this passive when you're town. You go full force aggression. This full force aggression is absent. So you're scumIn post 300, CommKnight wrote:Must be mind reading you then Mario. Obviously the future sees you voting for Siblings.
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I was pinged on page 1. I waited for the game to go on to see if you would continue pinging me. You did.In post 302, CommKnight wrote:This is all reading as Ali thinking she figured me out on Page 1 (of all pages) and being a bit sour. Dear, it will take more than a few games with me to figure me out. Especially since those games were not multi-ball and this one has a lot of enemies and few town PRs.
And why are you hand-waving me here if you think I am A. Wrong and B. Scum? And why aren't you addressing my points?
You aren't this nice to your scumreads imo.
Also, I'm still waiting for you to answer 294
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Yeah. You're being nice right now.In post 305, CommKnight wrote:Answering 294 takes effort and effort is not something I like putting into questions that are that NAI questions to answer. If they were something more serious, then maybe I'd put the effort in, but not when they're soo bleh.
"This nice" - implying I'm being nice.
Also, didn't you say this?
Which is now EXACTLY what you are doing now!In post 267, CommKnight wrote:- A50 asked me a question, I answered with my current reads. Did you prefer I ignore questions? I mean I can, I can say "Hey Ali, your questions are shit, I'm going to ignore them instead of giving answers when I can/remember to/care to."
and I responded with that with this:
AND LATER ON, you did the EXACT same thing to Flub. Right here in fact!In post 267, CommKnight wrote:Comm getting defensive here doesn't happen by town. Town doesn't say "Well, you would rather I just not talk about my reads or ignore questions" the way he does here. And they certainly don't say "Hey Ali, your questions are shit, I'm going to ignore them instead of giving answers when I can/remember to/care to." It comes from scum with the mentality of "Hey, I am going to try to make you feel bad for hunting me, and disrupt you in your attempts to scumhunt."
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Town!Comm answers the question.In post 282, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:In post 280, CommKnight wrote:
"Arguing" I don't think that word means what you think it means.In post 275, Flubbernugget wrote:Comm
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You're trying to get people to not sort you, and you are resorting to deflecting questions, dodging questions, and straight up not even answering them because they take "effort" to do this.
You're scum here.
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Is calling me a townlord your new version of townsoIn post 309, MarioManiac4 wrote:Whew I'm sure glad Balki stopped pushing Kawso.
It's my job to deathtunnel Kawso as scum.
This interaction made me smile.In post 311, MarioManiac4 wrote:Nah Townso is a special gift. It can never be replaced.
You two are fuckin great <3
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This isn't about you answering a question or not answering a question. This is about your answers and lack of answers. Your answer to Almost about their reads is scummy in that they are super surface level and add nothing to the game. You never even addressed this point btw.In post 312, CommKnight wrote:First you're upset I answer a question, now you're upset I don't. So I'm not gonna answer questions from you if you don't like when I answered A50 (you added it as part of your "case" against me, therefore you have a problem with me answering).
Now you're just not answering questions, and that in of itself is scummy.
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Yeah, he's usually an aggressive player that can be a bit abhrasive. Usually when aggressive players are town, they keep up their aggression for long periods of time. It's just how he's plays.In post 315, EchoVision wrote:
is he usually an aggressive player? does this aggression last all game, from the start of day one? what I'm trying to get at here is does he turn aggressive after shit happens or is he already aggressiveIn post 259, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:
That's because he's scum. Aggressive players aren't usually this tame unless they're trying to be careful, which they won't happen as town because when you're town, you feel comfortable on going all out.In post 258, Balki B wrote:Odd response from someone who said, without reasons, that my discussion with GNB is more than likely not TvT.
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I'm seeing genuine attempts to gamesolve in MM4's iso, and there are points where his tone sounds really good. His "flashwagon Delta" thing honestly is something I think he would say as both alignments, so I'm not really looking into it that much. His stuff on Delta does make sense to me actually.In post 318, EchoVision wrote:
what makes you like mm4 as town? what do you think about his "flashwagon Delta"?In post 289, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote: pedit: I like you, MM4, Game for town. That's honestly all I got at the moment.
Want a post where I say why? Sure, go quote this one, because I haven't really said why or talked about my reads up to that point.
@ChikoritaLover4- Why do you want Delta over Comm right now? My read on Comm is stronger right now, so could you help an Alisae out maybe pretty please?
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[img]Can you actually talk to me about Comm instead of dimissing my case? Because it's more then a meta case.In post 332, Tenshii wrote:
TL;DR It's a meta case.In post 285, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:@Hawk, Kawso, Tenshi, Game, anyone really- Talk to me about Comm and what do you think about my case on him?
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It's more then a meta case because it's about Comm's play.In post 335, Tenshii wrote:
I fail to see how it's more than a meta case.In post 334, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:Can you actually talk to me about Comm instead of dimissing my case? Because it's more then a meta case.
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I think anything that you've brought up that isn't meta is either reaching or you being conf-biased.
The focus is on his play.
Just saying this if you want to defend Comm isn't really gonna cut it.
Can you give me more?
And CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT HIS PLAY?
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The only reason why I'm bribing people with Gifs is because I want to shitpost. I can persuade people just fine thank you very much, maybe it's why he's the, hey, idunno, LEAD WAGON?
@Sesq- Why?
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Please describe how Comm dodging questions like Flub's and my own and litterally doing nothing is towny. Because this is what he is doing. Not to mention the way he is forming reads doesn't look like he is genuinely interested in scumhunting. He isn't making an effort to really sort people.In post 340, Tenshii wrote:Idk I'm too lazy to go back and requote.
But basically your case is bad. Lel.
I think his play so far is NAI. Your whole read on his play is based off a meta on him.
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yeah yeah, we'll see about that after I powerlynch youIn post 341, CommKnight wrote:^^^^^^
LOL, I'm just surprised I don't need to point this out and someone else in the game is dragging you through the dirt on it Ali.
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In post 321, Siblings Pet Doggo wrote:Kawso, you have yet to vote CommKnight.
Can I bribe you with Crawdaunt gifs until you vote CommKnight?
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Your reads are like, twenty shades of fucked up.In post 367, Almost50 wrote:Preliminary reads:
No STRONG TRs
Town Leans on: CommKnight, Kawso, Flubbernugget
Null/Town: beeboy, Balki B
Null: Bellaphant, Tenshii, MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, EchoVision
Scum Leans: Gamma Emerald, Sesq, Hawk, havingfitz, Siblings Pet Doggo, DeltaW
Can lynch any of the bottom six
Just sayin.
How did you come to the conclusion on like, all of your reads?
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