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Post Post #3211 (isolation #200) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 3206, Michael Lee wrote:and rb wanted backhand+cooldog dead, and listed you last iirc, so really you+rb makes a whole lot of sense
SO DID BACKHAND UP UNTIL THIS POINT
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #201) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 3204, Michael Lee wrote:fuzzy + backhand is ruled out cause they would've hammered

rb hasn't been online so that's not really a good argument

I know I'm town so convincing me I must be scum is not going to work either

so really from my PoV it's either fuzzy/backhand + rb who's been lazy, or it's you, and I'm leaning towards you

but I think your posts today are extremely scummy and when I ISO'd you it makes more sense that you just hard bussed flubber tbh

like I scumread that you but you were beyond confident on ONLY flubber - like boon/kasum/etc were scummy as hell IMO and I doubt someone could "know" exactly only flubber is scum and not the others in this case

aka it screams off perfect information

I wouldn't be surprised at you+rb atm

fuzzy could've pushed me or backhand more by now. if I won't change my mind I'll kill you and rb if it's up to me
Yeah I'm leaning towards either Back/RB (the most probable)
Or back/you
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Post Post #3215 (isolation #202) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:59 am

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In post 3214, Backhand wrote:why, can we get you on an rb lynch? the three of us can make that happen right now.
A scum lynch is a scum lynch
Nice attempt at bussing tho

@Michael how is this not scummy lol
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Post Post #3217 (isolation #203) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 3216, Backhand wrote:You're not worried about the team being me and michael?
I am :P
I never said I would vote RB immediately silly goose
I just said a scum lynch is a scum lynch
I know you're scum, it's just a matter of finding your partner
I'll wait to see what TFL and RB have to say before casting any votes though :]
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #204) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:12 pm

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Hype
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Post Post #3221 (isolation #205) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:21 pm

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Mhmmm
There could've been a gap
Not eliminating Backhand/RB
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Post Post #3223 (isolation #206) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:30 pm

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*Cricket*
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #207) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:38 pm

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I WANTED TO GET THE PAGE TOP
YOU
YOU
SCUM
VOTE: Dierfire
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Post Post #3229 (isolation #208) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 3227, Michael Lee wrote:I read your case. I don't think gradually developing reads while playing is a scum indicator, you call it opportunistic, but scum wants to look good. Town isn't worried about flipflopping but scum is? I don't think these arguments make him scum at all.
No
It's that he always joined into a wagon late.
Bussed Flubber
And
contradicted
his own reads within 100 posts just to fit the general mood and went back on his reads when they seemed viable again
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Post Post #3230 (isolation #209) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 3228, Michael Lee wrote:I mean whymafia is like confscum to me now while rb is the highest contender afterwards.
Lol
Can't wait to see your reaction after a flip if I get mis-lynched
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #210) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 3231, Michael Lee wrote:But from my PoV I know I'm town so if it's rb/fuzzy + backhand they would've voted you and won already?
Neither have been on when Backhand has though lol
Well actually
TFL might've
Lemme check
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #211) » Wed May 31, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 3231, Michael Lee wrote:But from my PoV I know I'm town so if it's rb/fuzzy + backhand they would've voted you and won already?
Disagree
You voted me way after Backhand did
Backhand voted
TFL came
He didn't vote
Backhand unvoted
You voted
So actually
NOBODY IS CLEARED
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #212) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 3234, Backhand wrote:Lol k, me and rb posted five minutes apart.

I'd be real pissed at him right now.
Um what?
I don't even know what you're trying to say.
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Post Post #3239 (isolation #213) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 3237, Backhand wrote:You are right about tfl though, its only Michael and tfl you can clear because it was me not him voting then.
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Post Post #3240 (isolation #214) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:12 pm

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In post 3235, rb wrote:Sorry when I said a moment I meant a while, my throat and head are both sore as fk and trying to unravel this game is hurting my brain.

I think it's Backhand + TFL
Why TFL?
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Post Post #3242 (isolation #215) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:13 pm

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Oh and RB/Backhand is now clear
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Post Post #3243 (isolation #216) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:15 pm

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Oh btw
RB, do you think I've improved since the other normal game we've played together? Just curious :p
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #217) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:16 pm

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In post 3245, rb wrote:
In post 3240, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 3235, rb wrote:Sorry when I said a moment I meant a while, my throat and head are both sore as fk and trying to unravel this game is hurting my brain.

I think it's Backhand + TFL
Why TFL?
Following same lynchpool. I think I said I wanted like Backhand > Cooldog > TFL > You.
But why TFL above Michael and me? Just curious
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Post Post #3248 (isolation #218) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:31 pm

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In post 3247, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
In post 3242, WhyMafia wrote:Oh and RB/Backhand is now clear
Are you saying that RB and Back are scum together? Trying to understand

if so than who would rather lynch
Back or RB

For me Back has been the scummier of the two
No they're confirmed not to be scum buddies
Michael has had his vote on me
Both Back and RB were on at the same time. They could've quickhammered
And I agree, let's lynch back for today. I'm convinced he's scum
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #219) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:32 pm

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Intense
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Post Post #3250 (isolation #220) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:33 pm

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Is this a page top?
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Post Post #3251 (isolation #221) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:33 pm

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YAY
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Post Post #3254 (isolation #222) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 3252, Backhand wrote:Tfl, for me to be scum I would have to be buds with Michael (or you, but you know that's not true). So think for a minute here, whymafia is flailing.
Nice discredit
You're the one who looks like that :roll:

You + Michael = probable
You + TFL = probable

Soooooooo
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Post Post #3256 (isolation #223) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:46 pm

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In post 3253, Backhand wrote:Rb, now that we're all here if you're not the buddy the same deal applies.
What are you even saying?
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Post Post #3257 (isolation #224) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:47 pm

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In post 3255, Backhand wrote:Lol like you just didn't try to get tfl to lynch me while he was still wondering if it was me and rb somehow.
????
I never even voted you yet, why so worried?
So I'm not getting him to lynch you
I am trying to prove you are scum, heck he thinks you're one of the most scummiest players here
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Post Post #3258 (isolation #225) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:50 pm

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Watching backhand trying to prove he's town is amazing
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Post Post #3262 (isolation #226) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:55 pm

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In post 3259, Backhand wrote:I've been on all day. Everyone has checked in. I'm not buddies with rb or tfl. So you have to scumread me more than townread Michael to pick me.

(and its not rb/tfl either)
Which I do
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Post Post #3264 (isolation #227) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:57 pm

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In post 3260, Michael Lee wrote:I think people should just concede that, these scumteams are ruled out:

rb + tfl
rb + backhand
tfl + backhand

because if those were scum I've given them the chance to win anyway

I know I'm not scum so for me, whymafia is confirmed scum at this point

he's scum with backhand, tfl, or rb. backhand actively wants whymafia dead. rb actively wants whymafia alive and now wants tfl+backhand dead (a scumteam I ruled out)

so for me it's whymafia 100%, and rb like very high chance as well. I rule out whymafia+backhand I think based on their 1v1 but yea idk. scum could do that for towncred. anyway whymafia is confscum from my PoV, he's the lynch 100%
RB and Backhand is the only clear lmfao
Tell me how RB + TFL is clear or TFL + Backhand is clear
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #228) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:58 pm

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We're not going anywhere with this
VOTE: Backhand
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #229) » Wed May 31, 2017 1:59 pm

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ugh I feel like RB is buddying me
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #230) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:01 pm

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I'm completely baffled by your explanation
How are teams that don't include either of us ruled out?
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Post Post #3270 (isolation #231) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:03 pm

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In post 3268, Michael Lee wrote:No Vote (5): WhyMafia, Michael Lee, Backhand, TheFuzzylogic99, rb

With 5 players living, 3/5 votes are required to lynch.

me + any 2 that doesn't include whymafia = enough to lynch whymafia

so all teams that don't include whymafia or me are ruled out from anyone's PoV

myself or whymafia HAS to be conf. mafia at this point or scum would've won already

from my PoV whymafia is literally 100% conf. mafia
Bc I feel like you could be a misguided townie
Therefore you vote me
But it' not like every other team that doesn't include us can be ruled out bc some people haven't been on concurrently
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Post Post #3273 (isolation #232) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:06 pm

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In post 3271, Backhand wrote:*me and rb don't hammer*
*me and tfl don't hammer*
*rb and tfl don't hammer*

The End of stories that don't involve one of michael and why being scum.
You and TFL didn't post concurrently
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #233) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:06 pm

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In post 3271, Backhand wrote:*me and rb don't hammer*
*me and tfl don't hammer*
*rb and tfl don't hammer*

The End of stories that don't involve one of michael and why being scum.
Same with RB and TFL
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Post Post #3276 (isolation #234) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:07 pm

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In post 3272, Michael Lee wrote:
In post 3269, WhyMafia wrote:I'm completely baffled by your explanation
How are teams that don't include either of us ruled out?
ok so if we're both town, any 2 of the others vote, and 3 votes = lynch, and it's mylo so they win?

unless if you're considering scum playing around docs/BP's/whatever. is that your argument?
Correct, but read above
And no I'm pretending that we are all vanilla
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #235) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:08 pm

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In post 3276, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 3272, Michael Lee wrote:
In post 3269, WhyMafia wrote:I'm completely baffled by your explanation
How are teams that don't include either of us ruled out?
ok so if we're both town, any 2 of the others vote, and 3 votes = lynch, and it's mylo so they win?

unless if you're considering scum playing around docs/BP's/whatever. is that your argument?
Correct, but read above
And no I'm pretending that we are all vanilla
But I'm fairly certain we aren't all vanilla cause a JOAT + Role cop + JK makes no sense without a good scum role
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #236) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 3278, Backhand wrote:rb/tfl, whichever of you is town, please note how whymafia, who all game has been very smart and perceptive, is suddenly pretending to not get why him or michael has to be scum, and voted for me instead.
LOL
WHEN HAVE I BEEN SMART AND PERCEPTIVE
IM LIKE THE WORST MAFIA PLAYER LMAO

FOR THE LAST TIME
ONLY LIKE 1 TEAM IS CLEAR
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Post Post #3281 (isolation #237) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 3277, Michael Lee wrote:if I was scum and I saw a townie vote another townie and had daychat I'd make sure to find a time to be online lol

my vote has been on you for a while now

you're fighting a losing battle, I know you're conf scum, your best out is to convince ohers I'm scum I guess, not to townread me rofl
Ok
This was fair enough
Backhand + Michael team
Confirmed
They keep one vote on me, wait for a townie to vote, then boom hammer
Notice how they've been constantly active today???
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Post Post #3282 (isolation #238) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:11 pm

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RB TFL
please
Lynch Backhand
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Post Post #3283 (isolation #239) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:11 pm

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LYLO is pretty dope
The other two ones I have been in have been anti-climatic
This is intense af
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #240) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:12 pm

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I've never posted this much in such a short period of time
This feels good
I have the game solved
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #241) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:12 pm

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Backhand Michael
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Post Post #3286 (isolation #242) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:12 pm

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Lemme repeat
Backhand and Michael
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #243) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:13 pm

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We can look at their interactions with each other as well
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Post Post #3288 (isolation #244) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:13 pm

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BUT I AM POSITIVE THIS IS SCUM TEAM
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #245) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:14 pm

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*Waves*
Someone interact with me
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Post Post #3290 (isolation #246) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:14 pm

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Dierfire is probs laughing his butt off at this LYLO
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #247) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:16 pm

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I'm constantly refreshing
Thanks Dier for such a nice game :giggle:
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #248) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:28 pm

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Nope! TFL
If you have any questions on how the team is Back/Michael don't hesitate to ask
Same with RB
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Post Post #3295 (isolation #249) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 3292, Backhand wrote:I agree, this is super fun :)

And take the compliment! I meant it. (unless it was part of your theater in which case I get it)
In post 3293, Michael Lee wrote:thefuzzylogic you decide this game

but I think whymafia confirming himself as mafia here with his panic response vs me solving the game is evident enough
Cute another synchronization of post times
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Post Post #3296 (isolation #250) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:30 pm

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Backhand, if you are so certain I'm scum, why not vote me?
Scared bc nobody's gonna hammer cause the scum team is you and Michael?
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #251) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:31 pm

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lol this was so obvious how was I so blind
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #252) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:31 pm

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Inb4 scum team is TFL/RB xd
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Post Post #3299 (isolation #253) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:31 pm

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In post 3296, WhyMafia wrote:Backhand, if you are so certain I'm scum, why not vote me?
Scared bc nobody's gonna hammer cause the scum team is you and Michael?
This is really important
@RB @TFL

They're afraid to put both scum votes on me
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #254) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:50 pm

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In post 3302, Michael Lee wrote:can we post whymafia's play today onto the mafiascum wikia for scumtells 2017 please
Lulz it's the other way around
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Post Post #3307 (isolation #255) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:03 pm

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In post 3305, Michael Lee wrote:rb isn't even posting and you're not even going against him. you're literally suggesting me+backhand because of "being active today" lol

and your "we don't vote together" makes 0 sense as why would both of us vote but not together? what would we be afraid of? right, nothing, your argument is invalid
To distance yourself of course
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Post Post #3308 (isolation #256) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:04 pm

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In post 3305, Michael Lee wrote:rb isn't even posting and you're not even going against him. you're literally suggesting me+backhand because of "being active today" lol

and your "we don't vote together" makes 0 sense as why would both of us vote but not together? what would we be afraid of? right, nothing, your argument is invalid
That's just one of the many reasons :)
And you're obviously afraid of making backhand and you associated
Like your interaction with him is absolutely ridiculous
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #257) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:07 pm

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In post 3304, Michael Lee wrote:dude I KNOW you are scum

and you know I know as well

which explains your play today. and really I had to spell it out for you that you had to scumread me before you did it....and your main defense is what, distracting (mentions at the host or vote count or top post per page), a lot of "I don't know" / excuses, and just weak and soft play overall? also missed all the obvious logical conclusions backhand and I got to. you and rb kept suggesting teams that were already ruled out, literally just scumplay right there. town doesn't play like that
I think we both know it's the other way around :lol:
For the last time, there is only one team ruled out
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Only scum try to repeat the same thing over and over again
This is just looking like a desperately Michael

Your logical conclusions are flawed. I pointed them out, and you're refusing to acknowledge them.
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #258) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:10 pm

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In post 3309, Michael Lee wrote:how do I distance by voting the same person + outright townreading him + he 99,95% townreading me?

how am I scum with him when I make a case on him being scum and pushing his lynch over cooldog for literally no reason (after I killed flubber)?

lol
I admit
The bussing was well done
The rest is just WIFOM
votes in LYLO tell a lot more about associations than any other part of the game so far.

And lol
What is this
"I push for his lynch over Cooldog
for no reason
"
You were certain he was gonna get lynched. Might as well make yourself look better!
And you "outright town read him but make a case in him being scum"

Like what even is this
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #259) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:11 pm

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In post 3312, Michael Lee wrote:you agree with me - and now you're backing off it again?

you say no team is ruled out yet you ruled out any team other than backhand+me?

lol nice contradictions

saying my logical conclusions are flawed doesn't actually make them flawed rofl it just makes you a liar / scum

btw didn't you just repeat me+backhand being scum like 3x? and now you say only scum repeats. lol nice
99.99%
I'm saying that I have the gamesolved
But by no means is it confirmed. I'll admit, you got the twisting words part of scum down pat.
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Post Post #3317 (isolation #260) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 3314, rb wrote:I'm here reading, trying to make proper sense before I vote. A lot of ideas are going around and some of them make surface sense but I disagree because some of them seem really implausible unless my reads are just THAT shit. I'll have to entertain that possibility and rethink this game I guess.

Fuck lylo.
Goddamit RB
You interrupted this wonderful 2 v 1 between Backhand/Michael and me

Isn't it funny that they both hard town read me? (Actually wait I need to check Michael)
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Post Post #3318 (isolation #261) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:13 pm

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In post 3316, Michael Lee wrote:backhand was no where getting lynched certain I pushed hard for backhand over cooldog and it could go either way

which rules me out as never scum with backhand

I had to reason to push backhand over cooldog if I was scum with backhand lol, nice bolding + taking my words out of the context while misinterpretting them
For the first name do you mean cooldog?
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Post Post #3324 (isolation #262) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:17 pm

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The previous day is a gold mine
RB/TFL
I highly recommend you re-read yesterday
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Post Post #3325 (isolation #263) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:18 pm

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In post 3319, Michael Lee wrote:
In post 3314, rb wrote:I'm here reading, trying to make proper sense before I vote. A lot of ideas are going around and some of them make surface sense but I disagree because some of them seem really implausible unless my reads are just THAT shit. I'll have to entertain that possibility and rethink this game I guess.

Fuck lylo.
I'll help you out either me or whymafia is conf. scum because otherwise any 2 others could lynch whymafia and win the game since I have my vote on him since forever now (backhand had his vote on him as well tbh)
Except barely anyone have been on concurrently except you and backhand!
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Post Post #3328 (isolation #264) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:26 pm

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I'm willing to go Backhand first
But Michael is dying tomorrow then
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #265) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:28 pm

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In post 3080, Melanora wrote:You know, backhand really hasn't offered much this whole game.
In post 3087, Michael Lee wrote:
In post 903, Backhand wrote:Whymafia is probably town. If we're going to pick a compromise shrug of a lynch, I'd rather it be choof than flubber.
In post 947, Backhand wrote:
Boonskiies wrote:

Ugggghhh....he is so scummy! This makes me absolutely not okay with flubber being lynched.

Also against the flubber lynch--it just seems real unlikely that none of you (boon), gamma, rb, tywin, and whymafia are scum, and all of those people were ok with it.
In post 948, Backhand wrote:EBWOP: and michael, forgot he was on the flubber wagon too.
In post 1252, Backhand wrote:Sigh. I'm not seeing flub, won't be hammering. Rb, I kind of agree with you, but mostly don't want tfl to have made it to day 2, with 50 pages, without a single goddamn opinion.
In post 1707, Backhand wrote:Woke up, caught up. On phone, will post more at work.

Two thoughts: choof really needs to not tell us, and ideally flip a coin, for protecting tywin tonight.

And flubber is the lynch that gets us the most info. I would have little confidence in whichever of the kasu or boon wagons we get going now, we're too scattered.

Vote flubber
In post 1824, Backhand wrote:
In post 1812, Kasumeat wrote:Backhand, would you be willing to lynch one his scumbros Michael or Gamma today instead?
In order, I'd prefer:

Flub
Michael
Gamma
Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1725, Backhand wrote:OK, let's break out the scenarios.

Tywin is scum


OK, he claims rolecop. He has to hope:

A. He doesn't get countered
B. He doesn't get targeted by choof and choof dies (WEAK jailkeeper, remember?)
C. There's not an SK, because they probably want him dead whether they believe him or not.

Now, smart mafia (I don't totally want to get into this but I assume they'll figure it out) might decide to target choof so either way, only choof dies. But if tywin is lying, we've got some other power roles I would think, they'll know what to do.



this implies that Backhand knew that if Choof targeted Tywin, that Choof would die. He tried to fix it, but the response given points towards it even more, as the conclusion from that shouldn't be to go and defend Tywin.
Yes, in the hypothetical I very clearly titled: Tywin is Scum. :roll:

I don't see how you're not seeing that there are so many ways to verify his claim during the night.
In post 1880, Backhand wrote:Doesn't the straight split also indicate that flub could be scum? In which case gamma/michael/why/cool are probably town and their switch isn't indicative.

For the record, the
funniest
team is mel/rb/tfl. They'd be having a great day without having really done a thing.
In post 2688, Backhand wrote:Well.


OK flubwagon, if you think flub is scum you're running out of practical partners to pair him with. Time to move on?
In post 2733, Backhand wrote:
In post 2706, Michael Lee wrote:look I think flubber + mel could be scum together simply for they scream the same way, and their "HOW HOW HOW" posts remind me of each other (and ive seen scum do this a lot of time, prob unconsciously or they affect each other in the QT, same mindstate, etc. so they tend to act the same towards some things)

kill flubber today
Down for Mel, but who is third in that group?
In post 2715, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
Vote Flub


Going on gut that Boon was a counter wagon on the Flub wagon

Counterwagon led by who exactly?
In post 2768, Backhand wrote:
In post 2767, Michael Lee wrote:honestly I do think entire scumteam was on the tywin lynch
Mel was on the tywin lynch. . . just saying.
In post 2747, Kasumeat wrote:The only people who townread Tywin are scum. Lynching him was correct.
Well, that's not true.
In post 2740, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: You are assuming that bc Boon flipped town his reads are good. Not sure if theres a term for assuming a flipped player reads are correct but it seems that this is whats happening
We don't know that they're right, but we do at least know they were honest. Gets a slight promotion for that.
In post 2769, Backhand wrote:
In post 1276, Dierfire wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.14


Flubbernugget (6): Gamma Emerald, WhyMafia, Michael Lee, Tywin Lannister, CooLDoG, rb
Tywin Lannister (4): Kasumeat, Backhand, Boonskiies, Flubbernugget
rb (1): choof

No Vote (2): Melanora, TheFuzzylogic99

With 13 players living, 7/13 votes are required to lynch.
And to reiterate, I can't look at this vote count and think its at all likely that flub is scum.
In post 2795, Backhand wrote:Better cool than flubber. . . although I'm not sure why ScumCool doesn't just hammer TownFlub.
ISO'd Backhand and quoted relevant posts. Has been pushing townies all game and like a lot of them - then pushes flubber for a moment which I wanted to give towncred BUT later on he goes on and keeps pushing townielynches over flubber all the time. This guy is almost confirmed scum. Quoted the cooldog-backhand post because I can't completely fit it inside my hand (as to whether they're a team or not) but it could be distancing so I won't read into that. I'll read into his actions and he hasn't pushed flubber/cooldog consistently / that hard.

VOTE: Backhand

honestly backhand - cooldog wouldn't be a crazy team right now right? if we're going to give boon and fuzzy some credit for killing flubber
Notice that Mel brings Backhand up
Not Michael

Anyways, I'll save the rest if my tirade against Michael for tomorrow
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Post Post #3331 (isolation #266) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 3330, rb wrote:VOTE: Backhand

Whatever.

I'm sticking to my top scumread of the last 2 days.
I knew I could count on you :D
TFL when you get on, hammer when you see fit
Tomorrow is Michael vs Me
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Post Post #3334 (isolation #267) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:34 pm

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In post 3332, rb wrote:I need to take a nap and I find it hard to see myself voting the slot that's been a strong TR for most of the game in Michael Lee OR lynching WM who's my second strongest TR.
Decisions decisions
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Post Post #3335 (isolation #268) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:35 pm

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In post 3333, rb wrote:Ugh I'm fkn paranoid now
Just relax
We have like 20 days
Unvote Backhand if you want more time to think
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Post Post #3337 (isolation #269) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 3336, rb wrote:Either you or me will die tonight is my guess.
Probs you
Michael probs thinks he can win a 1 v 1 against me
Killing me looks fishy, although it could be WIFOM
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #270) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:46 pm

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So it's all down to TFL
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #271) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:47 pm

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In post 3338, Backhand wrote:TFL, if rb read the game and is town he has to know that michael or why are scum. I can't be scum with him or we would have hammered together. I can't be scum with you because we would have hammered together (plus you know we aren't scum together). He can't know that michael and you aren't scum together, yet he votes for me anyway. Because he thinks he can sucker you.

Vote whymafia


But they're right about one thing: feel free to hammer whenever.
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Only 1 potential team was concurrently online TFL
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Post Post #3348 (isolation #272) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:20 pm

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Nope
Backhand is dead
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #273) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:21 pm

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In post 3342, Backhand wrote:
In post 3340, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 3338, Backhand wrote:TFL, if rb read the game and is town he has to know that michael or why are scum. I can't be scum with him or we would have hammered together. I can't be scum with you because we would have hammered together (plus you know we aren't scum together). He can't know that michael and you aren't scum together, yet he votes for me anyway. Because he thinks he can sucker you.

Vote whymafia


But they're right about one thing: feel free to hammer whenever.
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Only 1 potential team was concurrently online TFL
Backhand Posts at 4:05
RB: Posts at 4:10
Backhand: Posts at 4:15

Not true
That's not concurrent
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Post Post #3350 (isolation #274) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:22 pm

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I'll claim now
I was the mafia godfather ... /s
I am vanilla town

@back were you actually town shyshnshnws
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #275) » Wed May 31, 2017 10:48 pm

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Welp GG
we were all wrong lol
I had a sneaking feeling that it might be RB/TFL
but I had begun tunneling
Ugh
Much to learn I have
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Post Post #3375 (isolation #276) » Wed May 31, 2017 10:49 pm

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lol RB you pocketed me so hard
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Post Post #3376 (isolation #277) » Wed May 31, 2017 10:53 pm

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UGH IM SUCH AN IDIOT


RB, TFL, you guys played quite well :/

Can you release the scum and dead chat dierfire?
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #278) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:00 pm

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We should've lynched TFL before Cooldog
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Post Post #3378 (isolation #279) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:01 pm

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In post 3356, Dierfire wrote:The game is now over and the thread is open for post-game discussion.

I'll start by thanking everyone who played in this game, particularly the replacement players! I'd also like to apologize again for the delay in opening the thread for D4.

Every PT associated with this game will become public in 72 hours. As specified in the rules, I will redact posts by player request in any PT before then (send requests for redactions to me by PM).

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(expired on 2017-06-04 00:00:00)
Oh didn't see this

AND THIS SETUP WAS SO TOWN SIDED
GAH
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Post Post #3381 (isolation #280) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:46 pm

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In post 3380, Dierfire wrote:
In post 3378, WhyMafia wrote:AND THIS SETUP WAS SO TOWN SIDED
I'm not sure about this; certainly the Jack of All Trades has some strength (not least because the Vigilante power allows recovery to odd numbers if the Weak Jailkeeper targets Mafia), but the Role Cop does not get many useful results (all Mafia players and Town Citizens give identical results, Ascetic Jack of All Trades gives no result). Its real utility probably comes from checking fake claims from Mafia players or using its Loud modifier as a weaker version of a Friendly Neighbor--but those two functions don't overlap very well.
Ahh I see what you mean

By the way, of it isn't much of a hassle, can you (or someone) give me pointers on how to improve/where my faults were?
I am just a hindrance in town LYLO as of right now :/
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Post Post #3385 (isolation #281) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:54 pm

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In post 3382, Michael Lee wrote:whymafia to be honest you were onto flubber etc pretty quickly so you played a pretty strong early game, and got townread etc

like I got paranoid and switched from backhand into another team, but yea I kind of ruined it

either way, I think your defense seemed like you weren't invested / didn't care about the outcome, like you would keep saying you're bad at lylo and focus on irrelevant things like top post etc, which made me think you were nervous/trapped/scum. but yea I was wrong so oh well
Ohh. You didn't ruin it. I just had no idea how to properly defend myself, so I went on the offense to make up for it. I should've been a tad more flame to suppose :p
Thanks for letting me know
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Post Post #3394 (isolation #282) » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:00 am

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I just read the private topics
Oh god I'm a freaking idiot
Sorry town :/
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Post Post #3397 (isolation #283) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 3396, Dierfire wrote:I'm glad you enjoyed the game!

@WhyMafia

Sorry, I meant to get back to this earlier. I think that you did fine in this game. You seemed consistently suspicious of Flubbernugget. The vote in LYLO is probably forgivable because of the game state at the time (see below), and in any case the Town was unlucky in this game.

In terms of power, I'm agreeing with the assessment of mhsmith0 that this was on the lower side of Town power. Especially within those confines, for Town to lose roles D1 and N1 made the game more difficult.
I also think that the sheer volume of posts in this game hurt the Town in two ways (or at two times). First, it makes it difficult to follow the game in real time. Second, it makes it difficult to assess the game in LYLO. These factors are not unique to this game; I will argue that such high volumes often hurt the Town.

I don't know that I saw any easily corrected things; it's probably a good exercise to put more effort/patience into LYLO in general but I don't think that there were many ways to salvage the game at that point.
Ah thanks for the analysis
Regarding posts, I agree. I just couldn't keep on D2 with all the posts
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