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[Gamma Emerald]

We may be split, but this is a pretty solid game by town, I feel. The fact that it's so split means we've likely hit scum toDay.

Alright. If we lynch Tywin and he flips town I'll take this as a promise you will vote Flubber tomorrow.

Holding you to this

GASP! Are you gonna hammer?! *mouth waters*

With my hammer the contract is signed.
Are you sure you want to do this?
>Yes
>No

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tywin Lannister

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tywin Lannister

god damn it, you're scum, aren't you?

You didn't have this concern BEFORE you agreed?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: flubbernugget

[Gamma Emerald]

We may be split, but this is a pretty solid game by town, I feel. The fact that it's so split means we've likely hit scum toDay.

Alright. If we lynch Tywin and he flips town I'll take this as a promise you will vote Flubber tomorrow.

Holding you to this

GASP! Are you gonna hammer?! *mouth waters*

With my hammer the contract is signed.
Are you sure you want to do this?
>Yes
>No

Yes. Signed contract.

[Gamma Emerald]

To Be correct

You voted Back than unvoted Back and voted Flubber than unvoted flubber and voted Back again.

Can you yell me how this is not scummy as anything as you voted someone you town read???

He was keeping a promise to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

@RB, @Michael, @Gamma, @TFL: Could you please explain why you townread Tywin?

Also, could somebody please case Flubber? I ISOed him and he looks town as fuck and I'm not sure why he's being pushed

Why are you asking why we townread Tywin?

[Gamma Emerald]

1) His points were clear to me
2) He was a counterwagon to Flubbernugget.

[Gamma Emerald]

100%

[Gamma Emerald]

Here's the thing: The obvscum players this game are the ones who have townread Tywin before his claim. I don't blame anyone for thinking that the players who pushed Tywin after his claim are scummy. That includes me. But there is nothing scummier than townreading Tywin before his claim, because his play was the scummiest thing in the history of Mafia.

Ha Ha this is bullshit. What exactly makes those people obvscum? I got his points even if it was contradictory or messy. He seemed to really believe in his words.

[Gamma Emerald]

1) His points were clear to me
2) He was a counterwagon to Flubbernugget.

This is Gamma's explanation for why he Townread Tywin. But these are blatant lies. Look at Gamma's own posts on Tywin:

Meta is based on the players actions for each alignment, not the common themes that happen in every game. There will always be one active scum and one extreme lurker scum. I haven't ever seen a game where that hasn't occurred, and I've played mafia a long time on multiple sites. Idc about meta either. I do care about finding scum, and I think youre scum.

Now, if you aren't, feel free to have a legitimate discussion with me so we can sort each other. If that leads to two TRs, then a town bloc forms with strong players. If you just keep up what you're doing though, I will get you lynched and I know you'll flip scum. Reading between the lines isn't so difficult for everyone, and more than just the words you use, I also look at what the intent behind it is. I don't mean 'scum motive' that people say a lot, because all scum motivation is to not get lynched and lynch town, while all town motive is to lynch scum over town and if a PR, not get themselves lynched. That's it. What I mean is that you're smart enough and good enough to know how to manipulate the game with the common scum tactics I already mentioned, and you've been using them to a T. You'd know as town that I'm feeling you out and do the same with me, but you're going all out aggressive once I called you out.

Is it common for you to switch to super aggression after being called out when town? What about scum? I'm curious as to your mindset in these situations.

This post is so contradictory I really think it has to be town. I think Tywin is just town who doesn't realize they are contradicting himself.

He calls Tywin "so contradictory", yet he also says he agrees with him?? And look at how early Gamma is townreading Tywin, with the only explanation for his townread being "because he's so contradictory". This is the fakest fucking read in history. This was Gamma's plan all along. Gamma has played with Tywin before and knows that he's fucking awful as town and planned to use his as his pawn to mislynch everyone who pushed Tywin. This is long before Tywin was a counterwagon, so both of Gamma's explanations for his townread on Tywin are complete bullshit.

lol you just scumclaimed. I had doubts about you but this seals it.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma - What did you think of my Color Wheel? (I know you won't like Flubber up there, but the rest of it.)

Anyone else can make comments on it as well, of course, but I'd like to know how Gamma felt about it specifically.

I think it's alright for now.

Also, that's interesting. @Gamma - do we not have a completed game together?

Nope, no complete games.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now, I will say, it's conceivable that the 3rd scum is Flubber or Boon. Not likely, but possible. Because unlike the fucking ridiculous Boon/Kasu/Flubber scumteam fantasy that the scum are pushing, I am actually going to acknowledge the fact that it's unlikely for all 3 scum to buddy so fucking hard.

AHAHAHA
This says "I'm going to hedge my bets by suggesting my scumbuddy is scum".

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you please explain how it's possible to agree with a contradictory point?

I looked past the contradiction, saw the INTENT of the post, and felt he was Town based on the intent.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you please explain how it's possible to agree with a contradictory point?

I looked past the contradiction, saw the INTENT of the post, and felt he was Town based on the intent.

THIS IS PRETTY FUCKING EASY TO DO WHEN YOURE SCUM AND YOU KNOW HES TOWN

>Parsing argument...
>FATAL ERROR: Circular Logic detected
>>Says Gamma Emerald is scum
>>>Says this lead to Gamma Emerald townreading Tywin Lannister because they could see their intent.
>>>>Says this read makes Gamma Emerald scum
Scum ==> Read ==> Scum DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who do you think is more likely to see the town intent behind a ridiculously scummy player, town or scum?

How about someone who's played with the guy enough to realize that the dude is naturally scummy. When I last dealt with this in Tywin I saw similar style: decent intent hidden behind odd contradictions, but I ignored it. This led to both of us getting lynched.

[Gamma Emerald]

boonskiies still throwing out the lie that tywin wasn't a cop and people are eating it like crazy, goddamn

Choof was more of a cop than TL.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

I agree but role cop is still a PR.

[Gamma Emerald]

Link @ rb?

[Gamma Emerald]

I intended for that to stick but I failed to realize he would find a loophole

[Gamma Emerald]

vote: gamma emerald

@flubber, join this counter wagon, it better.

@boon, stay off this wagon u scum fuck, don't need ur help.

@rb, bus ur partner, same goes for melonora

You're ignoring context

[Gamma Emerald]

We may be split, but this is a pretty solid game by town, I feel. The fact that it's so split means we've likely hit scum toDay.

Alright. If we lynch Tywin and he flips town I'll take this as a promise you will vote Flubber tomorrow.

Holding you to this

[Gamma Emerald]

What about beards

[Gamma Emerald]

I would post a pic but I cant get it to work

[Gamma Emerald]

I remember a lot of bitching about scum not being buddy buddy. Thing is, Flubbernugget has done this before.

[Gamma Emerald]

to be honest I do think flubber is most obv scum now for wagon/vote analysis, boonskiies most scum after that for lying entire game

like if kasumeat busses both teammates and gets checked by a confirm town that he's town, I may consider to look into the possibility of someone else being scum but in the end of the day I'd say he's still scummy as FUCK

don't think scum has a godfather or they wouldn't have wanted the cop dead so easily I think, but this is a weak read

Have you seen the normal guidelines?

[Gamma Emerald]

And Tywin flipped role cop man

[Gamma Emerald]

I remember a lot of bitching about scum not being buddy buddy. Thing is, Flubbernugget has done this before.

When

The game I modded. Through day 1-3 your team displayed very little inclination to bus.

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69502
The game I modded

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude has a 5 page ISO wow

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope. Still believe Flubber is scum. Don't like how he jumped on CooLDoG
CooLDoG will you vote Flubber now?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope. Still believe Flubber is scum. Don't like how he jumped on CooLDoG
CooLDoG will you vote Flubber now?

I have been scum reading him since day 1. What don't you think you like m

You've been opportunistic this whole game. Playing both sides of rb/Tywin in the beginning, Pushing CooLDoG now, etc.

[Gamma Emerald]

@ML: when a player is modkilled, they are usually made neutral survivors so they cannot win in any condition.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is that a townslip?

[Gamma Emerald]

There have to be 5+ scum in this game, there just have to

We'd have lost by now if this were the case

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE COUNT 2.08

Flubbernugget (4): Gamma Emerald, Melanora, rb, Michael Lee
CooLDoG (2): Flubbernugget, Kasumeat
Melanora (1): Backhand


No Vote (3): WhyMafia, TheFuzzylogic99, CooLDoG

With 10 players living, 6/10 votes are required to lynch.

TIMER

(expired on 2017-05-15 22:30:00)

NOTES

Players are strictly directed not to further discuss the matter that resulted in Boonskiies being removed from the game

Players are reminded to avoid personal attacks

5 votes
6 to lynch
L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

TFL is looking at things a little off here

[Gamma Emerald]

Also it's just good play to sheep conftown unless you're absolutely certain they're wrong.

What if that conftown has a track record of being wrong that game?

[Gamma Emerald]

The only people who townread Tywin are scum. Lynching him was correct. He's also correct in his read on me and almost certainly in his read on Flubber.

Pardon me???

[Gamma Emerald]

No u git linchd. "Lynching Tywin was CORRECT?" That's not a town statement.

[Gamma Emerald]

I went for the chain since I am sure Flubber is scum. I knew Tywin was getting hammered eventually, so I struck a deal. I'm also curious why you think ANYONE has been reading my play as outrageous stupidity.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who said my play was stupid?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why can't I be that dumb?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah! Don't let anyone tell you how dumb you can't be.

This is going on my quote wall on my wiki.

[Gamma Emerald]

TBH I actually feel more confident in Kasumeat now you bring that up

[Gamma Emerald]

In Kasumeat being scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

What the fuck

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mel: chainsawing is not the way to go here. Flubber or Kasumeat is the lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

Better cool than flubber. . . although I'm not sure why ScumCool doesn't just hammer TownFlub.

I agree.

With what?

[Gamma Emerald]

Godfather can't be in the game

[Gamma Emerald]

From the normal guidelines

Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector, Framer, Vanillaizer, Beloved Princess, Arsonist, Governor, Godfather

Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include: Godfather

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Kasumeat

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh you speak some Spanish?

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think that voting cooldog is a play, and if Flubber flips town, RB is basically conf scum in my eyes, but I'll play this game.

VOTE: /vote Flubber

This type of statement is bad. We're at MyLo-1. We can't be tunneling going into the next day.

[Gamma Emerald]

rb vote Kasumeat
Flubber tomorrow.

[Gamma Emerald]

The Kasumeat wagon is bigger
GO

[Gamma Emerald]

Look at how shitty his push on me and Micheal is

[Gamma Emerald]

Im actually not going to be upset if we NL since we had a flip this day. It's like when a player is removed for external reasons in Survivor so they don't eliminate anyone at TC.

[Gamma Emerald]

Boon was revealed as town when he was modkilled

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not?

[Gamma Emerald]

Better question, why would you rush from L-3 to L-1 without mentioning that you were putting Flubber at L-1?

Because I really don't give a shit. I want a lynch on one of my scumreads if possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

I might entertain this actually
Flubber gets one night. If he's as obvtown as you say scum will kill him don't you think?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm asking if you really believe Flubber is obvtown as you say.

[Gamma Emerald]

I like this change of tone from you. It's considerably towny imo since you managed to back out of tunnel vision and are admitting to your mistakes.

[Gamma Emerald]

TFL stop being dead weight and vote SOMEONE

[Gamma Emerald]

If Flubber is scum that was the worst gambit ever.

[Gamma Emerald]

WTF
Why cased Flubber early

[Gamma Emerald]

Also why was Boon modkilled

[Gamma Emerald]

Seriously
Why would you lynch the first one to seriously case flipped scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah
GG TFL. You fooled Town not once but twice in a row.

[Gamma Emerald]

I added the quote I promised to my wiki