Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

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Vote Count 1.1

Gamma Emerald (1): Cheetory6
Cheetory6 (1): DeathRowKitty

Not Voting (11): bigbenwd, Raya36, CCC, Grendel, MuttonChopMagic, notsure, Backhand, Accountant, NotTheRealPaul, Klick, Gamma Emerald


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on Thursday, June 15th at 5:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2017-06-15 20:00:00).

[DeathRowKitty]

Still why is it bad?

The questions don't have enough (any?) of a direct tie to the current game for alignment to meaningfully appear in answers. *insert theory discussion of early game here* so RQS is basically the worst thing ever. Talking about it in general terms is also a bad thing though so etc

[DeathRowKitty]

Gamma why did you mention the thing about scumreading a player for RQS? Did you think I was doing that? You seem to have been in an RQS before. Did no one in that game object to it on theory grounds?

[Raya36]

Hey guys!

1. What is your preferred alignment?
2. On a scale of one to ten how collaborative a player are you and why?
3. How important is it to take other players personalities into account when forming reads on them?
4. What player do you have the most experience with on this roster?
5. What are you feeling as you enter this mini's D1?

1. I don't really have a preferred alignment. I enjoy PRs, but I'm honestly happy with just about any roles.
2. I'm not really good at putting numbers on a scale so I'll just say that I think I'm fairly collaborative. I like to come up with my own reads but I also like expanding on others'.
3. Personality should be considered. I don't consider it the most important factor to a read but how someone acts definitely could be just their personality and not tell much about allignment.
4. Just Gamma. (I'm new to the site so I don't know many people yet)
5. I guess I'm just excited to play!

[DeathRowKitty]

Hi Raya do you think I'm scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

@DRK the point of RQS is t necessarily to judge alignments. It's meant as an ice breaker mostly. And Grendel uses it to judge alignment early so your concern is somewhat moot.
I don't recall anyone objecting to RQS for theory reasons that game. My objection was the player was using RQS for townpoints.

[DeathRowKitty]

@DRK the point of RQS is t necessarily to judge alignments. It's meant as an ice breaker mostly. And Grendel uses it to judge alignment early so your concern is somewhat moot.
I don't recall anyone objecting to RQS for theory reasons that game. My objection was the player was using RQS for townpoints.

Having an icebreaker at the start of the game is worse than having nothing at the start of the game. It's more difficult for scum to find openings into the flow of the game in the early-going than it is for town.

[Raya36]

Hi Raya do you think I'm scum?

No... it's only page two of D1. Why are you asking me that?

(If you mean because you're against RQS than still no. I see where both sides are coming from around that.)

[MuttonChopMagic]

ego

[DeathRowKitty]

Hi Raya do you think I'm scum?

No... it's only page two of D1. Why are you asking me that?

(If you mean because you're against RQS than still no. I see where both sides are coming from around that.)

How about the way I'm going about it? Does the fact that I'm being all abrupt to Gamma Emerald about it give you bad feelings about me? Does the fact that I have a tiny townread on Gamma Emerald weird you out?

[Gamma Emerald]

@DRK the point of RQS is t necessarily to judge alignments. It's meant as an ice breaker mostly. And Grendel uses it to judge alignment early so your concern is somewhat moot.
I don't recall anyone objecting to RQS for theory reasons that game. My objection was the player was using RQS for townpoints.

Having an icebreaker at the start of the game is worse than having nothing at the start of the game. It's more difficult for scum to find openings into the flow of the game in the early-going than it is for town.

I thought you had a new reason to object but this is the same as one I've seen before
At least rb had the dignity to say it clogged the game up when I tried it with him

[Raya36]

No, it didn't really ping me as that strange. It was pretty abrupt and a bit odd to say nobody else should answer the questions but it could just be your playstyle or personality. I don't find it that weird that you have a tiny townread already either. It would only be weird if you acted on it this early on in the game without much evidence to base your read on.

[Raya36]

Since you're asking me what I think of you so early on it's only fair if I ask the same of you. Do you have any reads on me? Do you have any reads on anyone else?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Grendel you should really answer your own questions

[DeathRowKitty]

@DRK the point of RQS is t necessarily to judge alignments. It's meant as an ice breaker mostly. And Grendel uses it to judge alignment early so your concern is somewhat moot.
I don't recall anyone objecting to RQS for theory reasons that game. My objection was the player was using RQS for townpoints.

Having an icebreaker at the start of the game is worse than having nothing at the start of the game. It's more difficult for scum to find openings into the flow of the game in the early-going than it is for town.

I thought you had a new reason to object but this is the same as one I've seen before
At least rb had the dignity to say it clogged the game up when I tried it with him

"Dignity"? Don't give me that nonsense. I'm not going to give you extra filler reasons because you won't accept the real ones.

[DeathRowKitty]

Since you're asking me what I think of you so early on it's only fair if I ask the same of you. Do you have any reads on me? Do you have any reads on anyone else?

You're basically null. notsure did nothing but answer the RQS questions so there's nothing game-related to read from him in the first place. I am too blinded by my lifelong feud with Cheetory4 (he doesn't deserve to have a number as large as 6 after his name) to have any read on him but scumscumscum all the timetimetime.

[notsure]

Considering it's the start of the game, anything anyone does now can be interpreted in any way and is just WIFOM.

BUT if people start talking now, it gives a lot of interaction and behaviors that can be compared to later in the game. This is good for town. So DeathRowKitty, I don't see the value in not answering some simple RQS questions. Just as mafia could use your answers against you, so can town use it as a basis to judge you as Town and have a higher chance of finding mafia as the game progresses.

so whatever I guess.

[DeathRowKitty]

Considering it's the start of the game, anything anyone does now can be interpreted in any way and is just WIFOM.

BUT if people start talking now, it gives a lot of interaction and behaviors that can be compared to later in the game. This is good for town. So DeathRowKitty, I don't see the value in not answering some simple RQS questions. Just as mafia could use your answers against you, so can town use it as a basis to judge you as Town and have a higher chance of finding mafia as the game progresses.

so whatever I guess.

Everything you just said is incredibly silly. Do you have any reads?

[notsure]

Everything you just said is incredibly silly. Do you have any reads?

And why is it silly? What's silly is not getting people to talk and interact. How is Town supposed to find mafia if we just do what you're doing?

And you're asking about reads now? You seem pretty scummy...having a bad start?

[DeathRowKitty]

You talk a lot about finding mafia and yet you seem to find find more value in answering non-game-specific questions than you do in discussing reads. Is interesting. Would you say that this utterly bizarre valuation is relevant to your alignment or is it a part of your views on mafia theory?

What about me seems scummy to you?

[Klick]

1. What is your preferred alignment?
2. On a scale of one to ten how collaborative a player are you and why?
3. How important is it to take other players personalities into account when forming reads on them?
4. What player do you have the most experience with on this roster?
5. What are you feeling as you enter this mini's D1?

1. Scum. Everything's easier when you have more info.
2. waht
3. People act differently and aren't robots, surprisingly, so, very
4. DRK, though that's not saying much, I just played with her in Clash of the Mash. I haven't played in ages.
5. the keys on my laptop

Mr. Cheetory how can I lynch the scum

[DeathRowKitty]

Klick Mr. Cheetory might be scum can you vote him with me pls

[Cheetory6]

Basically at some point I'll point my finger at someone, call them scum, we'll lynch them and hopefully they were actually scum.

P-Edit: o:
Are you sure about that?

[Cheetory6]

Are you hoping to PRESSURE ME
WITH VOTES
INTO BEING SORTABLE!??!?!
OH GOD.
THE MERE THOUGHT OF SUCH A THING IS MAKING ME TREMBLE.

[Klick]

hmm
alright

VOTE: Cheetos