I made a setup for a real-life Mafia game. Any tips?

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I made a setup for a real-life Mafia game. Any tips?

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:49 pm

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Let me preface by saying
I haven't been able to use it yet
(because I have no friends) but I joined this forum specifically to ask.

My questions:
Is it balanced?

Are any roles over/underpowered?

Any there any possible unusual situations that I should be aware of/prepare for?


Amount of Players:
10


Deputy, Oracle, Escort,
Town-Protective (
Doctor
or
Security Guard
), 2x Random Town (
Mayor, Priest, Governor,
or
Vigilante
)

Godfather, Mafioso,
Mafia-Support (
Blackmailer
or
Drug Dealer
)

Random Neutral
(
Serial Killer
,
Arsonist
,
Amnesiac
, or
Spirit Master
)

All possible Town roles:
Deputy:
Able to investigate one person every night, and get two possible roles from them.
(e.g. "Your target like to take control. They may be either a
Mayor
or a
Godfather.
)

Oracle:
Able to speak with the dead at night.

Escort:
Able to roleblock one person at night.
— If you roleblock the
Serial Killer
, you will die.

Doctor:
Able to heal one person at night.
— If the
Serial Killer
attacks your patient, you will die instead of your patient.

Security Guard:
Able to protect one person at night.
— If the
Mafia
attacks your rescuee, both you and the attacker will die.
— If the
Serial Killer
attacks your rescuee, only the
Serial Killer
will die.

Vigilante:
Gets two bullets at the start of the game to shoot people throughout the game.
— If you shoot a
Town
member, you will commit suicide over the guilt the next night.

Mayor:
Gets two votes towards lynching a player.

Governor:
Can unanimously pardon one person from being hung. One time only.

Priest:
Can revive a dead person. One time only.

All possible Mafia roles:
Godfather:
Sends the
Mafioso
to do his bidding.
— If the
Mafioso
is roleblocked, then you will kill someone yourself.

Mafioso:
Carry out attacks for the
Godfather.


Blackmailer:
Can choose one person to silence every night. That person cannot speak the next day.

Drug Dealer:
Mafia-aligned
Escort.


All possible Neutral roles:

Serial Killer:
Choose one person to kill every night.
— If you attack a
Doctor's
target, the
Doctor
will die instead.
— If you attack a
Security Guard's
target, you will die.
— Must win alone.

Arsonist:
Choose one person to douse in gasoline every night.
— At any night of your choosing, you may ignite all doused targets.
— Must win alone.

Amnesiac:
On a night of your choosing, you may take over the role of a dead person.
— You must fulfill the win condition set by the role you choose.

Spirit Master:
Wins if lynched publicly.
— If you're killed by the
Mafia,
then you win if the
Town
wins.
— If you're killed by the
Vigilante,
Serial Killer,
or
Arsonist,
then you win if the
Mafia
wins.

This took me about 30 minutes to type, R.I.P.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:04 pm

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> kind of... verbose?
I have cards set up for Deputy results. No talking needed.

> very Town of Salem-y
Correct!

> priest seems pretty atrong
Explain? Just looking for constructive criticism, not trying to sound douche-y. If Mafia remembers the role of the one revived, they can kill them off easily. Unless Doctor/Guard is present.

>godfather doesn't have a fakeclaim
Mayor. It's random town, and there's two random towns in the setup. It's a good fakeclaim unless the two RTs can CC.

> blackmailer ultimately does the same thing as drug dealer
Blackmailer silences during the day, Drug Dealer suppresses the ability at night. Also, yes, they can use hand signals, but they cannot talk.

>Does the amnesiac choose who to back up?
Yes. They can choose who they want to play as, whenever they want to. As long as they're alive, they can remember any dead role.

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Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:31 pm

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> the whole first paragraph
please explain in noob terms

Votecounts are not public, they are only counted when everyone has voted or someone was voted to be lunched.
If it helps, the voted person CAN defend themselves.

Amnesiac is neutral, not town - if they choose a Mafia member, they have to win as Mafia.

Spirit Master's wincon is to get lynched (edit:
neutral
village idiot) but has extra leeway if they are killed at night.

Anything else I can explain/answer for you or..?
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Post Post #6 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:45 pm

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I play Town of Salem so I guess that's why there's a lot of PRs.

LYLO? I know MYLO is mislynch and lose.

To be fair randomly lynching favors evil roles - in my opinion town wouldn't lynch unless they had a confirmed or dumb.

Other than thanks for the feedback! How is it 1-10? With rice?
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Post Post #8 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:52 pm

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I will take my cards with me to Knoxville on Friday to see if I have enough people to play (at all).
I'll definitely letcha know how it goes. Thanks!

In the meantime, here's all of the cards I made myself! https://imgur.com/a/KnQAi
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Post Post #10 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:50 am

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Thanks Random! Hopefully during my vacation I'll be able to rally enough people to play this.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:03 pm

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In post 11, TesXX wrote:I'm not sure how balanced it is because of the large number of roles + the fact that none of them are VTs (which makes sense since it's based off ToS which has no Vanilla Towns).
This question may have been asked but all the posts are really big and I am skimming them but have you hosted this setup on Town of Salem?
Since some of the roles (like the Spirit Master) are not on Town of Salem, plus some abilities/deaths are changed (ex. Security Guard is not killed by Serial Killer attacking their target, whereas in ToS they are), I don't think a Town of Salem setup would accurately depict balance in this roleset.

Also I'd love to, but I don't have anyone to do custom games with.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #7) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:30 am

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I mean, I'm not using a deck of cards - I actually have cards with every role and their win condition, abilities, etc. on it. I hope what you said is not what eventually happens, but I'm still willing to try it. Thanks for the feedback though! If it goes to hell I'll just make it to where there's more VT/VM roles.

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