Open 690: Kill All Townies - Game Over

[Balki B]

who are you to say

you're about to get lynched

you're playing the worst clearly

mafia isnt just a game of logic, it's a game of emotion and using interrogative techniques to try to get people to slip up

if you think that pure rationality will get you to the end you are very mistaken

(playing in such a way also implies that you are able to be 100% rational which is not always the case)

I have never said that "pure rationality will get me to the end." I don't know what you mean by "pure rationality."

Also, it's not my win condition to "get to the end." My win condition is to catch scum. I'm happy to be lynched, if it means we can figure out, in the process, who is not really looking for scum. But we can't figure that out if we don't demand that Town list their thought-process and reasons for lynching me. If town does not list their reasons, then scum can hide by not listing their reasons and just following the crowd.

I'm not playing a game based on "pure rationality," whatever that is. I just want people to explain themselves. Take the time to make their reasons understood, so that we can evaluate them for their sincerity.

[Sesq]

you're demonstrating that you do not understand the motivation by not providing reasoning for your votes

thats enough for me

[Balki B]

you're demonstrating that you do not understand the motivation by not providing reasoning for your votes

thats enough for me

Hmmmm...I don't need to demonstrate it. I'll just say it.

I do not understand the motivation for not providing reasoning for your votes.

I think that's a pretty bad idea. Do you want to tell me your top secret strategy, or lynch me for not understanding your super-advanced tactics?

[Sesq]

i've already said why

[EchoVision]

Or we can play FOLLOW THE COP.

I agree with Tenshii's plan. At first I didn't until he explained where the Seer doesn't actually out unless they get a guilty.

Balki, you're right, you're the scummiest person, we lynch you and then we CHECK the second most scummiest person (if they are the Seer, then they cross-check MariaF).

I personally think we should check Echo tonight as I do want to find the MAFIA (and any wolves) who didn't vote the Godfather yesterday.

Also Chiko's are taking over and Balki didn't change. He therefore is admitting to being a sock-puppet scummy.

So the plan to restate it: Lynch Balki, check Echo, if Echo is Seer, he checks MariaF.

okie dokie go for it my chikorita

I'll vote Balki when I'm done catching up. sounds like he's asking for reasons beyond what's already given just so he can try to talk his way out of shit which Idk if it's NAI or what cause I can see both sides doing it

[Bellaphant]

@sesq, you mean apart from the fact i've lynched scum, pursued other scum reads and actually shown my reads? i'd love you to do any of that so i can actually engage with you.

balki's play seems to have really changed overnight. :S

[Sesq]

>you've lynched scum
there's 2 factions that doesn't prove shit
also could have been a bus, and you did join pretty late w/o reasoning (generally unexplained votes for emotion are not on existing wagons, disregard this post if you dont agree its valid, theres already enough shit)
>pursued other scum reads
as in you just shaded a few people. doesn't take a townie to do that
>actually shown your reads
doesn't mean anything

i've already shown my reads which you would know if you paid any attention

[Sesq]

i know your town meta and this is nothing alike

you're definitely scum and everyone is gonna see eventually

in my experience i'm usually right about these things

[WhyMafia]

You know what
I am just going to read up and play in the present

[EchoVision]

Oh my fucking god is anything I'm going to say just going to be discredited because of everyone's shitty read on me?

I don't understand how you can't see the motivation behind the plan, it's as clear as day.

Cop and Seer will check a scummy target. The scummy target will become confirmed inno. This will force the scum to kill the confirmed inno.

then in order for them to be cleared seer has to out himself and werewolf has an easy Nightkill...

either you didn't think your plan out or you low key want seer outed

@Echo, I don't think you're correct on this.

Cop and Seer choose to scan Balki. If Balki is killed, fine. You've just directed the kill on someone that folks found scummy, and you won't waste a mislynch on that person. If Seer gets a guilty scan on Balki -- great! Seer can come forward with it, and 1/2 the remaining wolves are dead. If the scan comes out clean, Seer says nothing, Cop says nothing, and we know our town treasure is a clear town treasure.

This doesn't make it any more likely that Seer has to out. Seer would out with a guilty anyway. All this does is allow Seer to confirm people innocent without coming forward.

Yeah I read on and saw it

[EchoVision]

Okay I really don't see this much defensiveness coming from a v townie and process of elimination leads me to find your sock puppet scum

VOTE: Balki

[Balki B]

Okay I really don't see this much defensiveness coming from a v townie and process of elimination leads me to find your sock puppet scum

VOTE: Balki

Really? I have a wagon of, what...6 or 7...with less than 24 hours of the day gone by. You don't think a townie would be defensive in that circumstance? Why not?

Any other reasons for your vote? Take me through the process of elimination. Who have you eliminated?

[WhyMafia]

I am at Page 20
Don't see a scum Balki yet
What happened with Comm/Ali?

[MarioManiac4]

Comm flipped town and Ali got vigged
(commknight claimed cop)

[Sesq]

honestly i dont think balki is scum

bella is, why may be lurkscum

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

who wants to see a magic trick

[MarioManiac4]

what if we're all lurkscum deep inside

[WhyMafia]

why may be lurkscum

IM TRYING IM SORRY
IM ON PAGE 22
ILL START SKIMMING

[MarioManiac4]

who wants to see a magic trick

me me me

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

all i need is someone to vote balki b that hasn't already, then he will suddenly disappear

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Balki B
just for you

[MarioManiac4]

oh shit that was hammer
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP

[MarioManiac4]

o well he's probably just going to flip scum anyway \o/
shouldn't have jokevoted lol that messes with my head

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

that hasn't already

[MarioManiac4]

why do you have to ruin my fun fakehammers ;-;