UK Pol - #independenceday

[Wraith]

So if exit polls are true with whom would Tories coalition?

[Wraith]

They probably won't

Would that actually prevent them from carrying out their ridiculous austerity measures?

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hahahahaha fuck Theresa May lol

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amber rudd BARELY survives, unfortunately

A pity, now she can help sell more weapons to Wahabbists while censoring politicians who call them out for it.

[Wraith]

I've been reading a lot of material from actual UK citizens reacting to this election. For every "Wow I was so wrong about Corbyn" there's a butthurt Blairite saying "Corbyn is still crap and unelectable he just benefited from Tory incompetence."

I don't buy it.

Now I'm just an American looking in, but the Conservatives made the biggest dividends from SNP slumping and UKIP imploding, yet Labour still increased their total share of the vote by

10 freaking %

. They only trailed by

2.4%

of the vote and yet the Tories still have 50+ more seats. The Conservatives are clearly being propped up by the electoral system - the British left mostly united around Labour.

Blairites will say "this was his chance to be electable and they still didn't get a majority" but that's crap. This is clearly indicative of a leftward shift taking hold. Such a notion is clearly ignoring that the Conservatives get dozens and dozens of free seats from the rural regions.

The biggest anomaly for me as a foreign is how the Conservatives made such gains in Scotland. Several Scottish districts that voted Labour or LibDem as recently as 2010 and fell to the SNP surge between 2010-2015 suddenly went Tory. Personally I can only explain it as from the uncertainty over Brexit - can a native help clear things up for me here? If that's the case then I would expect Labour to make even more gains in 2020, especially in Scotland.

[Wraith]

Sturgeon seeks to drive Scottish people further with another independence referendum. And foolish people would rather vote Tory (whose entire manifesto revolved around the referendum I feel) than SNP (who aside from independence do have other pledges). I don't think I agree with independence but I sure as hell would rather be independent than run by the Tories/DUP.

People seem to forget you can vote no in the referendum, and I actually think another referendum would see another no vote. Especially after last night.

That's actually shocking to me. After the Brexit vote succeeded I expected huge backlash in Scotland and

more

demands for another independence referendum. I was under the impression the No vote only won the original referendum largely because of the economic uncertainty of leaving the UK and the EU and having to re-apply for membership.

[Wraith]

So let me make sure I have this right.

1) The snap election was an act of gross mismanagement intended to cement a dysfunctional and incompetent government that blatantly ignores a huge swath of citizens.
2) Even factoring in that both of the two major parties are perceived as dysfunctional and incompetent, the election succeeded beyond everyone's wildest imaginings in cementing a dysfunctional and incompetent government that blatantly ignores a huge swath of citizens.

Is that basically it?

They won't have the political capital or breathing room to institute their extreme austerity measures, AND they're now going to get hung with the albatross of the economic backlash from Brexit. Call me an optimist, but I think this was actually the worst possible outcome for them, save for if they had lost three more seats and been unable to salvage their majority even with a coalition.

I think the Tories are going to lose a lot more seats come 2020.