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[Ircher]

1-shot is fine.

The twilight rule is just insurance if I for whatever reason forget to lock the thread.

[Ircher]

Out of curiosity, why did you want this to be 11 players instead of 13, Ircher?

We haven't had a 11p setup in quite awhile.

[Ircher]

Mislynch D1 : 7-3 then 5-3 then 4-3 then 2-3 w/ a 2-shot vig is the worst case scenario.
With 1-shot vig, worst case is 3-3 at the start of Day 3.

[Ircher]

Like, I understand Radiant's position, but part of the setup kinda revolves around the vig being able to shoot N1; if the vig couldn't shoot N1, either town would need to be weakened or scum strengthened imo.

[Ircher]

Would N3 instead of N2 work?

[Ircher]

Basic Info:

Number of Players: 11
Backup Mod: To be determined, but I definitely am getting one.
Setup: 8 Town, 2 Mafia, 1 Mafia Traitor

Public Info:

1. Setup is guaranteed to have at least 8 town and only 1 scum faction.

Role List:

1.

Town Watcher

2.

Town 3-Shot Doctor

(Protects from one kill attempt)
3.

Town 2-Shot Vigilante

4.

Town Vanilla

5.

Town Vanilla

6.

Town Vanilla

7.

Town Vanilla

8.

Town Vanilla

9.

Mafia Encryptor

10.

Mafia Goon

11.

Mafia Traitor N3 Roleblocker

Setup Notes:

1. I want to keep the mafia traitor, and the player size at 11. I would prefer to keep the town vigilante (and allow it to fire N1) as well, but I can ditch it if it prevents this setup from passing.
2. While town can technically lose with just two mislynches, I think this is mitigated by a full (!) Watcher as well as a 3-shot doctor. (Plus maybe the vig won't shoot N1 in a 11p game.... but I'm not counting on that)
3. The Mafia N2 roleblocker is more so to keep town from having a strong positive feedback loop if scum get lynched D1.
4. The town vigilante (in most people's hands) is more likely to cause harm than good N1 in this setup; I count it as somewhat negative utility as a result.
5. I could change the Watcher to a Jack-of-all-Trades (Watch, Cop, Neopolitan) if you think full watcher is too strong.
6. If I strengthen scum (with the vigilante in the setup), then it will be the traitor. (N2+ Roleblocker would work there if necessary.)
7. I'm half tempted to make the Vigilante 1-Shot Compulsive but that probably isn't good for balance.

Role PMs:

Spoiler: Town Watcher

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town Watcher

!

• Watcher (Night, Active)
  - Each night, you may attempt to watch a player to learn who, if anyone, visits them.
  • [quote=Watcher Saw]
    You saw that X was visited by Y and Z.
    [/quote]
    
  • [quote=Watcher Nothing]
    You did not see anyone visit X.
    [/quote]
    
  • [quote=No Result]
    No Result
    [/quote]
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Watcher
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Town 3-Shot Doctor

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town 3-Shot Doctor

.

• 3-Shot Doctor (Night, Active, 3-Shot)
  - Thrice per game, you may attempt to protect a player from a single kill attempt.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: 3-Shot Doctor
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Town 2-Shot Vigilante

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town 2-Shot Vigilante

.

• 2-Shot Vigilante (Night, Active, 2-Shot)
  - Twice per game, you may attempt to kill a player.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: 2-Shot Vigilante
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliinated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Mafia Encryptor

!

• Encryptor (Day, Passive)
  - While you are alive, the mafia team can chat in the day.
  
• Mafia Kill (Night, Factional, Active)
  - Each night, one mafioso may attempt to kill a player.
  
• Mafia Chat (Night, Facional, Passive)
  - The mafia may converse in a private topic during yhe night. The name of your partner (as well as their role) will be posted there.
  
• You are aware that a traitor exists, but you are unaware of his or her identity.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Encryptor
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if the traitor is the only remaining mafioso.

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a [color=#FF00)0]Mafia Goon[/color]!

• Mafia Kill (Night, Factional, Active)
  - Each night, one mafioso may attempt to kill a player.
  
• Mafia Chat (Night, Facional, Passive)
  - The mafia may converse in a private topic during yhe night. The name of your partner (as well as their role) will be posted there.
  
• You are aware that a traitor exists, but you are unaware of his or her identity.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Vanilla
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if the traitor is the only remaining mafioso.

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Traitor N2 Roleblocker

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Mafia Traitor N3 Roleblocker

!

• Traitor (Day, Night, Passive)
  - You are aware that X and Y are part of the mafia, but you cannot communicate directly with them, and you cannot perform the mafia night kill. They know a traitor exists bu not your identity; if they shoot you, you will die.
  
• N2 Roleblocker (Night, Active, Night 3 Only)
  - On night 2, you may attempt to block a player and prevent them from taking any actions.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Traitor N3 Roleblocker
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if you are the only remaining mafioso.

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Mini 0!
You are a

Vanilla Townie

!

• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Vanilla
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

[Ircher]

Forgot to change the spoiler tag, but everything else I think was changed. Anything else?

[Ircher]

My ruling has always been no (but it doesn't apply in this setup).

[Ircher]

Thanks.

As an fyi: Human Sequencer will be my backup mod.

[Ircher]

Basic Info:

Number of Players: 11
Backup Mod: To be determined, but I definitely am getting one.
Setup: 8 Town, 2 Mafia, 1 Mafia Traitor

Public Info:

1. Setup is guaranteed to have at least 8 town and only 1 scum faction.

Role List:

1.

Town Watcher

2.

Town 3-Shot Doctor

(Protects from one kill attempt)
3.

Town 2-Shot Vigilante

4.

Town Vanilla

5.

Town Vanilla

6.

Town Vanilla

7.

Town Vanilla

8.

Town Vanilla

9.

Mafia Encryptor

10.

Mafia Goon

11.

Mafia Traitor N3 Roleblocker

Setup Notes:

1. I want to keep the mafia traitor, and the player size at 11. I would prefer to keep the town vigilante (and allow it to fire N1) as well, but I can ditch it if it prevents this setup from passing.
2. While town can technically lose with just two mislynches, I think this is mitigated by a full (!) Watcher as well as a 3-shot doctor. (Plus maybe the vig won't shoot N1 in a 11p game.... but I'm not counting on that)
3. The Mafia N2 roleblocker is more so to keep town from having a strong positive feedback loop if scum get lynched D1.
4. The town vigilante (in most people's hands) is more likely to cause harm than good N1 in this setup; I count it as somewhat negative utility as a result.
5. I could change the Watcher to a Jack-of-all-Trades (Watch, Cop, Neopolitan) if you think full watcher is too strong.
6. If I strengthen scum (with the vigilante in the setup), then it will be the traitor. (N2+ Roleblocker would work there if necessary.)
7. I'm half tempted to make the Vigilante 1-Shot Compulsive but that probably isn't good for balance.

Role PMs:

Spoiler: Town Watcher

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town Watcher

!

• Watcher (Night, Active)
  - Each night, you may attempt to watch a player to learn who, if anyone, visits them.
  • [quote=Watcher Saw]
    You saw that X was visited by Y and Z.
    [/quote]
    
  • [quote=Watcher Nothing]
    You did not see anyone visit X.
    [/quote]
    
  • [quote=No Result]
    No Result
    [/quote]
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Watcher
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Town 3-Shot Doctor

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town 3-Shot Doctor

.

• 3-Shot Doctor (Night, Active, 3-Shot)
  - Thrice per game, you may attempt to protect a player from a single kill attempt.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: 3-Shot Doctor
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Town 2-Shot Vigilante

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Town 2-Shot Vigilante

.

• 2-Shot Vigilante (Night, Active, 2-Shot)
  - Twice per game, you may attempt to kill a player.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: 2-Shot Vigilante
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Mafia Encryptor

!

• Encryptor (Day, Passive)
  - While you are alive, the mafia team can chat in the day.
  
• Mafia Kill (Night, Factional, Active)
  - Each night, one mafioso may attempt to kill a player.
  
• Mafia Chat (Night, Facional, Passive)
  - The mafia may converse in a private topic during yhe night. The name of your partner (as well as their role) will be posted there.
  
• You are aware that a traitor exists, but you are unaware of his or her identity.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Encryptor
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if the traitor is the only remaining mafioso or if the entire mfia team is eliminated..

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a [color=#FF00)0]Mafia Goon[/color]!

• Mafia Kill (Night, Factional, Active)
  - Each night, one mafioso may attempt to kill a player.
  
• Mafia Chat (Night, Facional, Passive)
  - The mafia may converse in a private topic during yhe night. The name of your partner (as well as their role) will be posted there.
  
• You are aware that a traitor exists, but you are unaware of his or her identity.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Vanilla
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if the traitor is the only remaining mafioso or if the entire mafia team is eliminated..

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Mafia Traitor N3 Roleblocker

Welcome, Player, to Mini 0!
You are a

Mafia Traitor N3 Roleblocker

!

• Traitor (Day, Night, Passive)
  - You are aware that X and Y are part of the mafia, but you cannot communicate directly with them, and you cannot perform the mafia night kill. They know a traitor exists bu not your identity; if they shoot you, you will die.
  
• N3 Roleblocker (Night, Active, Night 3 Only)
  - On night 3, you may attempt to block a player and prevent them from taking any actions.
  
• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Traitor N3 Roleblocker
  
• Win:
  You win when nothing can prevent mafia from maintaining a voting majority.
  
• Lose:
  You lose if you are the only remaining mafioso or if the entire mafia team is eliminated.

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Mini 0!
You are a

Vanilla Townie

!

• You possess both a vote and a voice. Use them well!
  
• You know that there are at least 8 town players and only one scum faction.
  
• Effective Role: Vanilla
  
• Win:
  You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains!

Confirm by pm'ing me your alignment and effective role.

[Ircher]

Blakout tags

are banned because they are hard to read on some mobile devices.

[Ircher]

(For some reason, I couldn't find this thread in the PTs section...)

Anyway, the game is finished.