Micro 719: For Us [Endgame]

[Two Real Humans]

Two Real Humans replaces Devils Gear effective immediately.

That's me :3

[Two Real Humans]

GUESS WHO

Do I get three guesses? ~ nancy

[Two Real Humans]

GUESS WHO

Do I get three guesses? ~ nancy

:3

[Two Real Humans]

I'm like 15 pages in

[Two Real Humans]

Not gonna lie, would have moved our vote onto Maria if it wasn't there already

Early on before reading became a blur it looked like Maria was like, mad that we could have a town!firm

that.

doesn't make sense.

P-edit:

How the fuck don't you recognize the tie?

What's your two accounts

[Two Real Humans]

It's Ginngie

[Two Real Humans]

So who's scum reading me and why

[Two Real Humans]

porque

[Two Real Humans]

morph read doesn't need explaining

Where I'm getting confused

is Ramona and Andrius looking town

when they're in your scum bucket

[Two Real Humans]

To be specific on Andrius, while his overreaction towards a lolimage was atrocious, his posts after felt town.

I am so confused

[Two Real Humans]

T'was this post and it just read weird to me.

Like, claiming BP could mean, town BP, traitor crumb, SK being ballsy, and it's not really something that actually benefits you claiming later.

B) You could've waited to see if you were scummy or not because if others viewed you as scummy no need to out yourself and save the other "protective" roles

Gonna ignore the fact that I thought this game was Matrix6 with the BP claim strat

[Two Real Humans]

It's one of the things that stuck out to me.

I'm more of an interactions over rereading player so it's gonna take a few days for me to pick up steam.

I believe im on page 16 or so but the attention to detail reading is out the window and turned more into skimming.

[Two Real Humans]

there was also a thought i had about chick and her marriage thing but I'm pissed cuz I can't recollect what it was

[Two Real Humans]

Why?

Only thing I can think of is that people are doing wall wars and it takes 10 minutes to read one post. I dont mind reading a wall but like it's never ending.

[Two Real Humans]

Like who?

Spoiler:

Ya know what really grinds my gears?

[Two Real Humans]

I agree, it's not the play I'd have made, but I can see where they're coming from. And like I said, we can probably confirm this claim.

Between Pie and I, we have two different night actions. I doubt there's no vig among seven town slots if that keeps up, you just run out of roles otherwise in a role madness game design. You only need to design two slots for the mafia, though, and there's just as many ways to make ridiculous role madness designs for scum as it is for mafia. It's possible, but Damocles is talking about it as if it's almost certain.

That's a good post though.
-HS

And your flavor is 99.9999% yuri.

Anyway, I like how a lot of people does not consider a chance of strongman when talking about NMS's claim, which is a very common mafia role.

Not in this setup.

- Scott

LUV, why did you say this?

[Two Real Humans]

Damocles and Clumsy. And to some extent, your slot.

And other slots have fallen off in activity after making decent starts. It's day 1 and we're going long stretches without any activity.

Well I'm here and I average 4 pages ISO's so there's nothing to worry about now that I'm here :3

[Two Real Humans]

where does it say that

[Two Real Humans]

because it doesnt

[Two Real Humans]

morph read doesn't need explaining

Where I'm getting confused

is Ramona and Andrius looking town

when they're in your scum bucket

No?

I mean my reads are p much the same as yours rn, except that I have no "maybe" list and lovebirds in "maybe town" list and CP in "Not so Town" list.

{Burning Hatred, morph the cat}
{NoticeMeSenpai, Imperium}

{}

{Lovebirds , Scott and Ramona , Sword of Damocles , Clumsy Phoenix, Devils Gear}

From those big list, S&R and SoD above others, but with a very small space between them.

I mean there was this where I got it from and it's like you made a reads list that could include null/town people but put everyone as scum

[Two Real Humans]

I was told Ginngie is here.
<3

Of course right now I'm not

exactly

here (I've been struggling), but I'll figure out a way to get in.
There are two types of conftown.
The type that do fuckall with it.
And the type who drive games forward.

I'd rather avoid the former if at all possible and right now I'm most decidedly not the latter so I need to fix it and will do so...soonish.

But for the moment, that needed to be said.
<3 Ginngie.

hey girl <3

[Two Real Humans]

Claiming BP: I have no issue with I'd perk a brow but I would be fine with it
saying "oh protective role's dont go on us" makes me question but still that wouldn't be too big an issue

What I have an ISSUE WITH is them going after the true love thing when they think it's going to give them IC because that makes 0 fucking sense
~Maria

I still don't get how you go from "bullet proof IC" to scum

They provided reasoning as to why they believe it'd be in the game, and it sounds pretty fucking nice to have.

So 2+?=4

where is the last 2 that makes it scummy?

[Two Real Humans]

Now that Titus seems more active, hopefully it will be an issue of the past.

[Two Real Humans]

Maybe because it's a uPick?

1. uPick has as much chance to get strongman as normal game.
2. Alignment was rolled before the roles were created. Even more chance of scum-specific roles showing up.

Not sure if I already touched this but this only helps feed my questioning.

I haven't read or seen any evidence to say there isn't a strongman in this set up and say it with such confidence.

[Two Real Humans]

Okay

why do you see NMS making that move as scum

[Two Real Humans]

Maybe because it's a uPick?

1. uPick has as much chance to get strongman as normal game.
2. Alignment was rolled before the roles were created. Even more chance of scum-specific roles showing up.

Not sure if I already touched this but this only helps feed my questioning.

I haven't read or seen any evidence to say there isn't a strongman in this set up and say it with such confidence.

I haven't seen evidence that there could be one and say it with such confidence.

- Scott

but we don't know what anything is. You just shut the idea down of a strongman down real quick.

[Two Real Humans]

There are 2 doors, there is no evidence that the first door is bad nor evidence that the second door is bad, however, instead of thinking about both, I'm going to say without a shadow of a doubt that the first door can go fuck itself.

There is no real reason

[Two Real Humans]

Okay

why do you see NMS making that move as scum

mastina is in this game
I know little about them but I know enough to expect a gambit or crazy ploy every once in awhile

pedit: ok just curious
ty ffery

Well elaborate on it

That's a scum read based on going "Oh well they could do it as scum" If anything that turns it into null claims.

What specifically about it makes it scummy besides lolmastina

[Two Real Humans]

[Two Real Humans]

So I wasn't asking the basis of the scum read or?

[Two Real Humans]

and it's not like the question goes away either, unless you can tell me how much of an invalid question it is.

Or we can just listen to the lovebird slot dodge questioning.

"I'm an icky feeling" means nothing

[Two Real Humans]

morph, what is it you like about lovebirds

[Two Real Humans]

morph, what is it you like about lovebirds

[Two Real Humans]

wait what the fuck is the scum slip?

Also if everyone could give their read on NMS that's be great

[Two Real Humans]

Thank you?

but what actions about them actually caused the read

[Two Real Humans]

Why is it so fucking hard to talk to people

[Two Real Humans]

It has to do with Andy's irritability, unapologetic line-drawing re mafia and life, and still showing up and trying to get stuff done in a stalled day 1 that feels a lot like quicksand.

I mean, he still hasn't touched the questioning by me about his scum read on NMS.

The only work I really saw put in was bargain for the true love mechanic and mechanical talk is easy, to well talk about; and regarding my slot I'm an icky feeling, there is no basis to the read and they've outright said they can't express it by going through what I posted. While I also get that a predecessor could have had a weak game, when I'm actually here, you judge me for me because I don't argue about what I didn't do and it's skeevy cuz it's like, they don't have to sort my play here, when they can just ignore what I say and push my predecessor's slot.

[Two Real Humans]

Also while you're on, I'm still confused on what the scum slip is because I don't pay much attention to the OP when I replace in

[Two Real Humans]

It's only been 7 minutes and I feel like a needy bitch

[Two Real Humans]

I mean, one of the very first lessons I learned about playing scum, was like this guide and it said if there was a question you didn't like, simply ignore it cuz people will likely forget about it and move on to something else

[Two Real Humans]

If it's done en masse than it really means nothing as one can just hide in the apathy

[Two Real Humans]

It's probs why the game is so slow, dont answer questions and you don't get content to talk about tbh

[Two Real Humans]

While I also get that a predecessor could have had a weak game, when I'm actually here, you judge me for me because I don't argue about what I didn't do and it's skeevy cuz it's like, they don't have to sort my play here, when they can just ignore what I say and push my predecessor's slot.

It's more complicated than this. Your "predecessor" is still part of the hydra, at least the one who was active and doing stuff. But, now that you're here she's not posting.

I see, so it makes sense in a way. I mean if you have problems with HS's posting from earlier than you can bring that up as fair game.

Also we agreed I'd be talking solo while I get into the game so HS can take a mental break.

I mean while we're talking about it, what was there about HS, that bugged ya?

[Two Real Humans]

porque?

[Two Real Humans]

lmao

I'll read up in the PT to see more of what you're saying/ask HS why


What else made your cereal have vinegar in it?

[Two Real Humans]

I took a strong dislike to the way she started hanging out in the neighborhood avoiding the game thread.

i told gin but i might as well address this to you directly

neighbourhood felt like a nice place
this thread didn't feel like a nice place

im quite emotionally compromised right now, but i'm here.
i'm sorry i've been away.
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

catching up.

i'll have my own analysis regardless, but something you'll see me echo a few times if you ever got around to doing that meta dive is that i'm very "reactionary".

i'll do a lot better if you put shit in front of me to analyze, and interact with me on what you think, regardless of whether we agree or disagree.
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

rereading my conversation with uzi is making my head hurt. need to reset that.

this is what happened.
1. you found inconsistency with my read on mariar.
-->my read on mariar is that i found it contradictory for her to push NMS and not CP considering I think they were doing mostly the same thing, except that CP was being more subtle with it
2. confusion happens and my head hurts again

fuck this

uzi, i think we approach meta differently. i think gaining an understanding of who somebody is as a person to figure out how they'd react to certain situations is more important than simply observing a players townplay/scumplay and looking for consistencies between either and their play in their current game.

i also just don't see what the problem is with me not voting CP there.

>tfw gin is more caught up than me
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

morph are you still being creeped out by nacho treating the hood as 'almost mason-like'

because like, i'm not seeing that at all
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

imperium and morph have a back and forth for two pages, i'm not reading that
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

I am seriously considering just lynching someone rn.

inb4 someone goes "but we have like 9 days left"

it feels dark and difficult but posts like these keep me going
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

i am now quite confident in morph's towniness although i've accepted that i'm gonna be paranoid them wiping the floor with me all game

this is me recognizing that and telling myself that morph is town and i should ignore it
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

morph, talk to me about scott and ramona
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

I'm betting Phoenix is town.
-Andy

wonder where this came from

PEDIT: morph that's nice and all but w h y
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

its harder for me to engage with a readslist than it is for me to engage directly with u but ok
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

everybody should post a love list of who they're willing to true love so we can sort this shit

[morph, jaestina, burning hatred]

[Two Real Humans]

tbf I did submit a troll choices.

One of the pick that didn't get picked was NTR.

i love you a lot
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

morph can u also please write your damocles case a little more eloquently in your readslist, i wanna talk about that but your wallpost earlier makes my head hurt

you're right in that it doesn't look like they have a broad view of the game, but that could easily be explained by their eccentric catchup style

caught up
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

andy, it's difficult for me too. i'm sorry about the comment i made about your writing style earlier.

our flavour is two separate characters who don't have any mention of marriage at all, which leads me to assume based on what CP said that there are some slots that are designed to get true loved, and there are some who aren't.
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

sword needs to post more hardcore and people need to post what they think about sword hardcore, we still have 6 days which is enough for at least a wagon there after marriage gets sorted but we'll have to be super quick

nominate for true love: morph

do you have any role related reason why you shouldn't experience true love? now is the time to shut it down if you must
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

ari is quite the scatterbrain, they (SoD) had very similar dissonance issues as town in that other hydra only micro where i was scum iirc
i agree that that case is super bad and surface level though
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

I also ran morph's breakdown of smart's case on us and all of the Ari posts past her since I liked the Ari posts, and felt they were like um... There was a hydra blitz that I played with Sword of Damocles where i was hydra'd with Alisae and Ari initially had a correct read on me (I think he 180'd later though) where smart sucked at reading me really badly and they were town there and it felt like the same kind of thing here to me, but mastina said Ari's posts feel like a caricature of his town self so I think I'd really like Nacho input on that since I know he can read Ari.

this is that game i was talking about btw

PEDIT: alright, but be swift i guess? we don't have a lot of time, we've pissed the day phase away (not your fault, definitely partly mine) with no wagons or content for info and we should get true love done asap so we can spend the rest of the day working with whatever info that gives us
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

nacho cheese is my favorite flavour of dorito

i'm sleeping now, gnight (lol its 10 AM)
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

I feel like there's been too much focus on the bp claim, mental note that I want to look st the attacks when I've actually caught up. I'll explain why I don't like the attacks later too.

agree
although it was partly my fault

492 is perhaps the worst post i've seen in my ms career

i only want to lynch within [lovebirds, damocles, CP] right now

kinda wish we sorted out marriage before lynch tbh? i guess it doesn't matter too much if it happens at the end of the day, just woulda been nice to be able to discuss it in this day phase

[Two Real Humans]

-HS

[Two Real Humans]

agree on needing more aristophanes, he should be an easy read and smart's posts make me want to gouge my eyes out
i like ari's content so far

also i forgot scott/ramona in that willing to lynch list
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

I feel like there's been too much focus on the bp claim, mental note that I want to look st the attacks when I've actually caught up. I'll explain why I don't like the attacks later too.

agree
although it was partly my fault

492 is perhaps the worst post i've seen in my ms career

i only want to lynch within [lovebirds, damocles, CP] right now

kinda wish we sorted out marriage before lynch tbh? i guess it doesn't matter too much if it happens at the end of the day, just woulda been nice to be able to discuss it in this day phase

What makes the post the worst you've seen?

talking about formatting there, not scumminess
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

that is not the right post oops
meant 942
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

sounds good to me, i'm like 94% sure our hood is all town
-HS

[Two Real Humans]

Global V/LA for about 48 hours

i should be around for at least a claim in hood in about ~28 hours if gin hasn't already, i'm waiting to hear what they have to say about it but i kinda doubt they'll have any issues tbh

i'm sorry for my inactivity.
-HS