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[Bomberman]

I feel like I'm talking to cleverbot, and not an actual person sometimes.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I already answered. I said why I'm so focused on the slot and what we gained

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why is MMM's play town? Why? Why can't anyone answer this?

Answer this please. Please

[Bomberman]

I already answered. I said why I'm so focused on the slot and what we gained

..Where? I'm blind. Point it out to me. Reiterate these statements in a way that I can follow.

Answer this please. Please

FUCK OFF

[Lil Uzi Vert]

{iDanyBoy, Eeveelution Army, Formerfish}
{Mulch,

LmkGuy, aronagrundy, massive, MordyS

}
{gerryoat, Bomberman, Lil Uzi Vert, Tchill13}

I'm leaning scum on the yellow slots (bar MordyS who I think didn't confirm) until further evidence due to the "scum wants to not have any heat on them during RVS" thing motivating scum to be inactive during this stage in my eyes. Obviously,

most

of these reads are obviously with low confidence as of yet, and are likely to change over time.

I'm not sure on Mulch. Early game posts are hilarious but not really alignment indicative, then he becomes the first player to post reads and actively trying in this game, but his reasons for scum reading seem off at the same time and he could be scum trying to take control as Bomberman I think said (despite his own logic also being flawed). I could see both of them being in the scum team together, actually.

...also holy shit, I just realised I'm scum reading over half the players. (this is assuming the low posters count)

I believe that scum will do anything to win. Mulch's behavior has garnered him a position of control and as a result he's been able to steer the game in any direction he chooses.

If he was scum

, I can easily see his partners letting him continue until he cannot get away with it anymore.

For now let's focus on just one of them. If you look closely, the wording implies that he knows Mulch isn't scum with a level of confidence that town cannot have at this stage in the game, and therefore this is a scum slip. Posts 62 and 223 also ping me - 62 for what imo is a counterproductive question and 223 for the lack of content despite there being plenty of things to comment on. This is probably my most confident read as of now.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I think town here would ask me why I was still voting for someone who I thought was probably town at the time and why I'm still voting for them currently rather than push this narrative.

Why can't town be that confident at that stage of the game? I'd really like to hear your reasoning why as I'm someone who's catches scum in RVS like no tomorrow. Also, according to that read list, tchill is your strongest scum read so why aren't you voting for him? I don't think you actually believe what you're saying but I can't tell if you're being contrarian just to be contrarian or you and him are actually scum.

{iDanyBoy, Eeveelution Army, Formerfish}
{Mulch,

LmkGuy, aronagrundy, massive, MordyS

}
{gerryoat, Bomberman, Lil Uzi Vert, Tchill13}

I'm leaning scum on the yellow slots (bar MordyS who I think didn't confirm) until further evidence due to the "scum wants to not have any heat on them during RVS" thing motivating scum to be inactive during this stage in my eyes. Obviously,

most

of these reads are obviously with low confidence as of yet, and are likely to change over time.

I'm not sure on Mulch. Early game posts are hilarious but not really alignment indicative, then he becomes the first player to post reads and actively trying in this game, but his reasons for scum reading seem off at the same time and he could be scum trying to take control as Bomberman I think said (despite his own logic also being flawed). I could see both of them being in the scum team together, actually.

...also holy shit, I just realised I'm scum reading over half the players. (this is assuming the low posters count)

I believe that scum will do anything to win. Mulch's behavior has garnered him a position of control and as a result he's been able to steer the game in any direction he chooses.

If he was scum

, I can easily see his partners letting him continue until he cannot get away with it anymore.

For now let's focus on just one of them. If you look closely, the wording implies that he knows Mulch isn't scum with a level of confidence that town cannot have at this stage in the game, and therefore this is a scum slip. Posts 62 and 223 also ping me - 62 for what imo is a counterproductive question and 223 for the lack of content despite there being plenty of things to comment on. This is probably my most confident read as of now.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I think town here would ask me why I was still voting for someone who I thought was probably town at the time and why I'm still voting for them currently rather than push this narrative.

Why can't town be that confident at that stage of the game? I'd really like to hear your reasoning why as I'm someone who's catches scum in RVS like no tomorrow. Also, according to that read list, tchill is your strongest scum read so why aren't you voting for him? I don't think you actually believe what you're saying but I can't tell if you're being contrarian just to be contrarian or you and him are actually scum.

1. I didn't realise you still had your vote on Mulch.
2. If you're town, then instantly obvtowning Mulch in spite of his reasoning for most of his reads being flawed is wrong - even though I'll concede that his efforts in general read as town, putting that much confidence in him being town seems like something really easy for scum to do for town cred here.
3. If you turn out to be scum like I'm expecting, then there's little point in me asking why your vote is on anyone in particular anyway.
4. You're talking about catching town in RVS, and you say you're good at catching scum? That seems more like a deflection than anything else.
5. My scum reads aren't ordered that meticulously, they are merely on 3 different levels - townleans, null slots, scumleans. Having a list that is ordered

that well

at this point in the game with high confidence can't even come from town. The fact you're pointing at something minor like that to attempt to get attention off of yourself reads as scummy as well.

You still aren't saying why it can't. I brought up that I do catch scum in RVS often to back up my confidence.

I pointed it out because your town reads look like they ordered in that way. I think it's natural to assume that your scum reads would be to.

{iDanyBoy, Eeveelution Army, Formerfish}
{Mulch,

LmkGuy, aronagrundy, massive, MordyS

}
{gerryoat, Bomberman, Lil Uzi Vert, Tchill13}

I'm leaning scum on the yellow slots (bar MordyS who I think didn't confirm) until further evidence due to the "scum wants to not have any heat on them during RVS" thing motivating scum to be inactive during this stage in my eyes. Obviously,

most

of these reads are obviously with low confidence as of yet, and are likely to change over time.

I'm not sure on Mulch. Early game posts are hilarious but not really alignment indicative, then he becomes the first player to post reads and actively trying in this game, but his reasons for scum reading seem off at the same time and he could be scum trying to take control as Bomberman I think said (despite his own logic also being flawed). I could see both of them being in the scum team together, actually.

...also holy shit, I just realised I'm scum reading over half the players. (this is assuming the low posters count)

I believe that scum will do anything to win. Mulch's behavior has garnered him a position of control and as a result he's been able to steer the game in any direction he chooses.

If he was scum

, I can easily see his partners letting him continue until he cannot get away with it anymore.

For now let's focus on just one of them. If you look closely, the wording implies that he knows Mulch isn't scum with a level of confidence that town cannot have at this stage in the game, and therefore this is a scum slip. Posts 62 and 223 also ping me - 62 for what imo is a counterproductive question and 223 for the lack of content despite there being plenty of things to comment on. This is probably my most confident read as of now.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I think town here would ask me why I was still voting for someone who I thought was probably town at the time and why I'm still voting for them currently rather than push this narrative.

Why can't town be that confident at that stage of the game? I'd really like to hear your reasoning why as I'm someone who's catches scum in RVS like no tomorrow. Also, according to that read list, tchill is your strongest scum read so why aren't you voting for him? I don't think you actually believe what you're saying but I can't tell if you're being contrarian just to be contrarian or you and him are actually scum.

1. I didn't realise you still had your vote on Mulch.
2. If you're town, then instantly obvtowning Mulch in spite of his reasoning for most of his reads being flawed is wrong - even though I'll concede that his efforts in general read as town, putting that much confidence in him being town seems like something really easy for scum to do for town cred here.
3. If you turn out to be scum like I'm expecting, then there's little point in me asking why your vote is on anyone in particular anyway.
4. You're talking about catching town in RVS, and you say you're good at catching scum? That seems more like a deflection than anything else.
5. My scum reads aren't ordered that meticulously, they are merely on 3 different levels - townleans, null slots, scumleans. Having a list that is ordered

that well

at this point in the game with high confidence can't even come from town. The fact you're pointing at something minor like that to attempt to get attention off of yourself reads as scummy as well.

You still aren't saying why it can't. I brought up that I do catch scum in RVS often to back up my confidence.

I pointed it out because your town reads look like they are ordered in that way. I think it's natural to assume that your scum reads would be to.

EBWOP.

I don't recall you elaborating on why you are confident in Mulch being town. If you did, I must have missed it. But without an actual explanation (hint hint) locking a read on someone this early in the game is unacceptable.
Mulch, that goes for you too. What makes fish and particularly gerry so townie?

How do you know they haven't been here? For all you know they are reading what we are saying right now and blatantly ignoring it

They have 3 out of the 242 posts in this thread. They haven't.

And if they're ignoring? Town can be lazy and not give effort. It's not AI.

I've already stated i just want him to contribute so i can get some form of read on him.

Do you have opinions on anyone else? Like you know - people who have actually posted enough for you to be able to have an actual opinion on them?

Actually for my sanity, could Eveee, MMM, and tchill talk about their mafia experience?

About 3 months worth of games on a live chat with disappointingly low quality games for the most part. About a handful of forum games, completed one as scum and about 6-ish as town in total I think. I assume this is what you wanted to know anyway.

I didn't and I don't have to unless you have a reason to suspect him. If you do, state so and why. I'm really struggling to see the why it isn't reasonable for one to lean or feel strongly about one of the most active players in the game.

MMM's self-vote just reads very cold and calculated. It doesn't help any town agenda and the only goal of the overall post seems to be to just to get the pressure off of him. There is a lot of anger but it's empty and pathetic. He's mad that we are scum reading him but can't tell us exactly why. He's mad that people are making accusations but won't go into depth why they're not fair and accurate ones. He's literally going to quit mafia because he can't be fucked to be a little more transparent. Just a straight up uncalled for survivalist play.

MMM is my strongest scum read and I'm satisfied with where my reads are currently.

I don't personally need anymore from today and I rather not give scum the chance to create apathy by drawing the day out.

He's already been pressured and cracked. I don't think the way he did comes from town and he's my strongest scum read.

[Bomberman]

Replace out

<<< This was also acknowledged. >>>

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Can't tell me why he thinks MMM is town

I think we found a partner guys

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Replace out

Soft

[Mulch]

Replace out

WTF MAN

[Mulch]

This site is full of these fucking people that join and when things get a LITTLE contentious just replace out.

Seriously, grow some balls.

[gerryoat]

lol, retti the king of replacing out.

[Bomberman]

All I wanted is some kind of fresh opinion, not having to reread the same exact thing you've said previously. You couldn't give that to me and I'm at my wit's end. I can't deal with this any longer and I'm not enjoying myself at all. The state of this game is absolutely wrecked because people actively refuse to try and cooperate with one another, trying to force others to agree with their opinions. Maybe this would be OK if those opinions were thought out, substantiated, or didn't read like they were written on a bathroom wall, but they're not. Nothing is changing and you'll all probably wait last minute and pile on a lynch half-committed because someone louder and prouder believing that read said so, regardless of getting input about it.

[Bomberman]

lol, retti the king of replacing out.

This place became EpicMafia somehow. I didn't ask for this nor want this.

[EeveeLution Army]

Well that happened. We should all take a HUGE STEP back here and reintroduce ourselves instead of acting like a bunch of 8 year olds running a business

[Bomberman]

Replace out

WTF MAN

You're part of the problem and I seriously hope you get banned.

[gerryoat]

it wasnt even that big of an argument tho. you're upset at scum for not changing their mind

[Bomberman]

it wasnt even that big of an argument tho. you're upset at scum for not changing their mind

Even

if

Uzi is scum, are we really getting anywhere? I think the dude is full of shit, unhelpful, and a bunch of other things, but I'm not going to immediately assume every read I make is 100% accurate and that I'm willing to just roll with the idea and hope people agree with me. I don't want to feel like I was wrong on a player for anti-town behavior, and I want to try and get them to play in a way that is more beneficial. Even in the event of him being scum, he's playing a horrible game and not learning anything out of it. People will start thinking this is okay and playstyles like this will continue to pop up.

[EeveeLution Army]

So many people are being so selfcentered rn.

[Tchill13]

No I want to lynch MMM's slot.

Where is Fish?

MMM's slot getting lynched doesnt make as much sense after Grey's explanation. Great case.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: lmkguy

[Mulch]

Replace out

WTF MAN

You're part of the problem and I seriously hope you get banned.

Banned for what

[EeveeLution Army]

Is someone at L-1/L-2?

[Tchill13]

Just caught up fully. See ya Bomberman. Lil uzi isn't the only player in this game so that replacement doesn't make sense but whatever.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What's the case on LMK? Bad readlist? He didn't vote a scum read?

Why is the latter more scummy than MMM refusing to make him so clear or explain himself when further asked and his reasoning for self-vote?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bomber replaced out because I didn't change my read on the slot yet he couldn't tell me why he felt MMM was town. You all don't see the problem?