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[gerryoat]

You'd be sheeping Gerry, your scum read, if you vote for me man.

Yeah I understand that but I feel like if you're scum then MMM's slot is definitely scum. That blow up from MMM was extremely early in the game and revolved around uzi alone which seems a little too convenient. I could easily see that being planned in scum day chat.

either we lynch you or LUV. who do you want?

[gerryoat]

VOTE: Lil uzi

I don't care if I'm scum read for this I'm trying to lynch scum here.

good choice.

[gerryoat]

Guys, as much as I know you would all love to LUV lynched, he's town.

why

[EeveeLution Army]

Dany seems to be picking out the things that are easiest to pick on, and getting nitpicky about semantics. There's not a real sense of effort being put in to his scum hunting.


And Massive, Massive is hard to read. I'm null scum on him right now. He's a low content poster, but he's like that as any alignment, so it takes me a bit longer to really get a solid read on him.

Pedit: Ah, ok, so you just pick and choose the things you want to focus on in your theory.

Theories are but theories.
Although his theory here is worse then normal. Idt hes scum for it, but thats a matter of opinion.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There's a reason why he wasn't voted for not appearing geninue. It's not the problem with that post, Mulch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If his motivation is equal than it should be null, Mulch.

[Mulch]

No. His motivation tips the scales both ways. His post is WOLFY.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gerry if you're town here, think of PyP. This isn't my scum game and you know it.

[Tchill13]

Why would you play your normal scum game if you know gerryoat is gonna catch you?

[Mulch]

@Gerrygoat please sheep your town town read and vote LMK guy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why would you play your normal scum game if you know gerryoat is gonna catch you?

He can't read me.

[nancy]

Chickadee is at L-2!

Eleventh Votecount

:

Chickadee - 5 (aronagrundy, massive, Lil Uzi Vert, Formerfish, GreyICE)

Lil Uzi Vert - 3 (gerryoat, EeveeLution Army, Tchill13)

LmkGuy - 2 (Bomberman, Mulch)
gerryoat - 1 (LmkGuy)
Mulch - 1 (iDanyboy)
Tchill13 - 1 (Chickadee)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Chickadee is at L-2!

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, July 11th, @ 1:30 PM PDT--(expired on 2017-07-11 16:35:36).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Chickadee replaces MMM.
  
• Seeking a Bomberman replacement.
  

[mastina]

nancy deserves much love. <3
Also,

<<< ReplacedIn replaces Bomberman effective immediately. >>>

[ReplacedIn]

Hey everyone, should be able to get to this in then next few hours.

[gerryoat]

VOTE: tchill

[ReplacedIn]

TOWN

Chickadee (MMM)

GreyICE

Gerryoat
Formerfish
---
iDanyboy
aronagrundy
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massive
Lmkguy

EeveeLution Army

Tchill

SCUM

*Mulch/LUV haven't been placed yet as I've not had time to go through them properly, this may have to wait until tomorrow.

Unvote, Vote: Tchill

[ReplacedIn]

TOWN

I really liked MMM's early thoughts and interactions with Mulch in 113 and 165, was one of the bits of sanity in the thread at the time and the excessive amount of scum reads v town reads in his 228 is something I can relate to given I had the same feeling at that point of time, find a lot of his reads and thoughts there pretty understandable. I also found his outburst in 345 very natural and genuine, how people are reading that and going "cold/calcuated" is pretty mindboggling; same goes for his post-replace out reads list and sheer frustration in 474, there's a particular line in there I don't think

ever

comes from scum. Chicka's posting thus far has been pretty decent too, how this is the leading wagon is just a testament to the state of the site at the moment.

Liked Grey's unvote of MMM in 478 as well as the focus towards LMK in 612 coupled with his reasoning in 625 both are things I can very much agree with. Similarly like the handling of LUV in 697 and 708 where I've seen Grey take advantage of players like LUV by letting them do the dirty work for him as scum in the past. Also like his handling and interaction with FF though I'm far less paranoid there then he is, only thing that's stopping him from being up in the super strong town area is the vote back on Chikadee in 763; the reasoning for moving off LMK is reasonable but how that translates into moving back to the MMM slot over Tchill I don't follow.

Gerrys analysis of Eeves reaction towards Mulch moving off Bomberman to him in 486 is actually very good and like him spotting the same thing I did with Massives MMM vote in 488. The push on LUV and "want to hold some things back" in 507 reads kind of natural combined with 512.

I agree with a lot of FF's reasoning behind scum reading Tchill in 212, most specifically his explanation behind Tchills trateement of Mulch and think his 215 feels like it points against it being a buss attempt which means if Tchill is actually mafia that's a pretty huge point towards FF being town. I don't hate his thoughts and reads shared inside 332 but the transition and confidence move towards MMM over Tchill isn't great, the conviction behind the MMM read and the attempt to actually force it through doesn't feel particularly fake though and it's a move that I'm not quite sure he'd make as scum given the blow-back from it.

[ReplacedIn]

SCUM

Peoples, most notably Greys reasoning for scum reading LMK isn't too bad at all, for the record if he's mafia his 336 kind of has him slipping that Mulch is town, not hugely relevant now but something for people to remember to go back to if either ever flip scum. The lack of real stances and vote placed there feels more like him attempting to not actually make any waves at all which is something fairly typical from newer scum players.

Not a fan of the reasoning Massive used to slip onto MMM in 257, it's very lazy vote without much real deep thought process shown behind it at all and the maintenance of the vote arguing that MMM's "Caught for the wrong reasons" and lack of real thoughts elsewhere feels opportunistic.

Dislike Eeves reaction towards Mulch's vote switch in 184 and the interaction that follows from it is pretty hard to read and him going from listing LMK as a possible scum read in 266 to unvoting him two posts and 6 minutes later is ??? There's actually very little content from him despite his huge post count which isn't a great sign and always find things like 513 to come far more often from S->T interactions.

Tchills interaction with Mulch in the early game is hugely awkward, the question of what she makes of Bomber in 139 to her answering she doesn't know but he's wrong to him voting Bomber in 151 is a really scum motivated progression and one that's really unnatural to come from town. The constant re-stating that Mulch is town without any real deep analysis anywhere there doesn't feel like town thinking about the game but then Mulch dropping to null in 440 with no explained progression is a pretty big scum tell. His stance on day lengths in 443 pretty massively contradicts what he voting LUV for initially in 406 and the explanation that he voted for 'reactions' isn't one that really makes sense there. His reasoning for dropping the town read on LUV and town reading Grey in 721 is pretty ??? too. I really have a lot of trouble seeing a lot of his thought processes coming from town here, they don't really run smoothly at all.

[ReplacedIn]

@Grey, who's town here dude? Why are you voting the MMM slot again? I'd say there's minimum 1 scum inside Tchill/Evee,

possibly

two but there's a few small things that make me think they're not S/S, thoughts on that? Also if you know who I am keep it to yourself, please.

@Dannyboy, talk to me more about your analysis of the MMM wagon; what about FF's vote and push do you like? If you had to pick three people to be town or one person to be mafia and you lose if the option you pick is incorrect what do you select, who and why?

@Massive, what's your current read on Mulch and what's your assessment of Chikadee's posting thus far; has it changed your read on MMM's slot at all?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Who's alt?

[ReplacedIn]

Personally I think Mulch might actually be completely spewed town. I think LMK/Mulch, Tchill/Mulch, Eeve/Mulch are never actually things so unless all three of them are somehow town I think the odds she's town from that alone is pretty huge. But I'll spend time going through her ISO tomorrow, will also go through LUV's then too.

[EeveeLution Army]

Replacedin i unvoted lmk back then because my scumread on him was mostly activity based and i had someone else that i could get info on. Which lead me to an eventually slight townread on mulch.

[ReplacedIn]

Who's alt?

Spoiler:

But on a more serious note, want to discuss my actual reads that I put down? You've been waiting for someone to elaborate on their town read on MMM, I've done that and they're my strongest town read by some distance, maybe discuss that or my scum read on Tchill or something?

Replacedin

i unvoted lmk back then because my scumread on him was mostly activity based and i had someone else that i could get info on.

Which lead me to an eventually slight townread on mulch.

You say this but you didn't actually put another vote down for ~25 hours after unvoting LMK, so what's the motivation behind unvoting one scum read to have your vote on no one for that period of time? Like how did that help you at all? Would like you to elaborate on your reasoning behind your town read on Mulch if you can, would also like you to pick any 2 other players in the game you think you have

deep

thoughts about and elaborate on them for me.

[EeveeLution Army]

To your first statement it was for discussion.

Why do i townread mulch?
Because his attitude feels townie and i feel he genuinely agrees with his own statements.

I townread MMMs slot because of the emotion behind it the frustration. I know MMM and i personally felt that came from town MMM.

I scumread uzi because personally i feel most of his pushes feel more scum motivated.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I liked those earlier interactions with Mulch as well and it sort of offset the forced vibe he was giving during RVS. However it all went to shit once he voted for me and I talk about that in detail in 733.