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I have no idea at the moment, well a few, but I don't care to alt hunt.In post 868, ReplacedIn wrote:@Grey, who's town here dude? Why are you voting the MMM slot again? I'd say there's minimum 1 scum inside Tchill/Evee,possiblytwo but there's a few small things that make me think they're not S/S, thoughts on that? Also if you know who I am keep it to yourself, please.
Anyway thoughts currently are that tchill's slide onto LMK is like... disconcerting and weirdly positioned. If we assume the tchill slot is scum (good assumption) then why isn't he on the mmm wagon? Mmmm?
Would also lynch tchill because, well, he's scum.
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I feel like this game quickly got away from me. I have an idea of how to get back on track. I don't have my daughter at home tonight so I will be able to do what I have planned (don't get excited, I just thought of a different way to catch up).
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In post 903, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not on the MMM wagon because I'm not scum. I'm just really bad town on day 1.
What changes about days 2+ that make you "good town" on those days?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Let's wagon lmkguyIn post 905, gerryoat wrote:that wagon on chickadee is so awful, like. every vote. i wouldnt be surprised if anyone on that wagon rn was scum.- ReplacedIn
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@Mulch - Vote Tmchill (See how worthless statements like this are, now stop doing them).
@Danny - It's not that Tchill town read Mulch and asked her a question; it's he asked her a question that insinuated he wanted her approval for him eventually moving his vote, when she didn't he moved anyway, it's a 'what's the point of waiting for an answer then' type thing. Got any particular read of mine you want to bounce some thoughts around about?
@Massive - I'd not consider this a 'long D1' it's been ~6 RL days so shouldn't be conf-biasing reads this early on at all. I don't think Chickadees been that fluffy and 'formed reads but no workings to get there' is pretty natural for most people upon replacing in, it's a lot of information at once, you have reads based on it but aren't able to put them together as nicely as you'd like. I think you like LUV are misconstruing what MMM had posted, his middle section was null reads that he thinks fit the archetype of scum that aren't posting as much, do you think it's implausible to lump you in that category regardless of what your meta is like? I'd have found it suspicious if hedidhighlight other names that are low-content and not include you so you scum reading that is pretty unreasonable and illogical.
@LUV - You are misinterpreting his reads, take a look at the spoilered quotes below, it's him not him scum reading their posting itself but rather admitting the lack of content generated from them makes sense as scum, that differs from a scum read and is more a "Keep an eye on these posters" type read which is pretty understandable. How you're attempting to accuse him of lying over this is pretty mind-boggling stuff and if you're actually town maybe step back and look at it from his shoes, you'll notice why he was getting frustrated then and maybe could actually step back and reassess.
Man, you're a better player than to actually believe the bolded here, "hmm, what scum motivation is there not to put someone to L-1 or join the leading wagon late on it". Like Tchill not voting MMM should have minimal impact on your read on MMM and doesn't change the fact that slot is town and there's lots of reasoning that should lead you towards that. Run me through the Evee town read please because apparently I'm bad. I'll also take words on your town read on iDanny because I'm getting sort of ~weak town feels~ from him but haven't been able to really lock that down.In post 901, GreyICE wrote:Anyway thoughts currently are that tchill's slide onto LMK is like... disconcerting and weirdly positioned.If we assume the tchill slot is scum (good assumption) then why isn't he on the mmm wagon? Mmmm?
Would also lynch tchill because, well, he's scum.
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In post 908, ReplacedIn wrote:
Man, you're a better player than to actually believe the bolded here, "hmm, what scum motivation is there not to put someone to L-1 or join the leading wagon late on it". Like Tchill not voting MMM should have minimal impact on your read on MMM and doesn't change the fact that slot is town and there's lots of reasoning that should lead you towards that. Run me through the Evee town read please because apparently I'm bad. I'll also take words on your town read on iDanny because I'm getting sort of ~weak town feels~ from him but haven't been able to really lock that down.In post 901, GreyICE wrote:Anyway thoughts currently are that tchill's slide onto LMK is like... disconcerting and weirdly positioned.If we assume the tchill slot is scum (good assumption) then why isn't he on the mmm wagon? Mmmm?
Would also lynch tchill because, well, he's scum.
Strong town is idany, Uzi, Eevee, Mulch. Anyone scumreading them is bad.
Fine then he's newbie scum who somehow is really careful about late-joining wagons on town. With all the players in the game to vote for, he picks his scumbuddy? Remember, one of Massive/aronagrundy/LMKmustbe town (or at least non-mafia) if Tchill is scum. That vote super bad spooks me off the wagon.
Eevee is just town who doesn't have a clue and knows the first rule of being taken seriously is pretending you have all the clues in the world. Everything he posts reinforces this. Especially take the spat with Mulch, what sort of scumfuck starts a spat with Mulch here? Only way is if they're scumbuddies distancing.
Nah if anything the weakest read is Mulch:
Parse that post for a second. Mulch thinks Eevee is scum. Eevee says Mulch is scum. Mulch's reaction is "your scumread is bullshit".In post 267, Mulch wrote:Your scumread on me is bullshit because I've been nothing but townie all day. My scumread on you is clouding your judgment.Well of course it's bullshit if he's scum.
Now as I said before the more people post the more scummy shit they post, and that goes double for anything that Mulch posts, but man Eevee is the wrong person to be questioning in that list.
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Do you really argue it's better to lynch active players?In post 910, gerryoat wrote:LMKguy has 4 post, he could easily be lynchbait. Why do you wanna lynch him 4 posts into the game for him? When there is lynches that could likely be mafia and also give of partner tells
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@GreyICE - Think even 'newbie' scum know that putting someone to L-1 or jumping on a wagon late is a bad move? I've taken a look and he's got two completed scum games already so he's by no means completely green. Again, none of this is changes the fact that the MMM slot is town regardless of Tchills alignment or his voting habits. You know this too. What, MMM gets mad that he's getting pushed for the wrong reasons as scum? Replaces out, posts his reads and requests dead QT access? Huh. Not a thing. Slot is 100% town here.
I...don't really agree with any of your reasoning behind the Eeve town read at all? Walk me through it like I'm 5. I don't think scum 'avoid interacting with Mulch' at all and find the angle that Eeve took as well as her floating posts more likely to come from scum here. The only thing I agree with you on is the spat is that Mulch doesn't' come out of it pretty either.
But work with me here? Joined largely for you, pretty unlikely we're both around D2 so maybe expand on the iDanny read for me? I'm more than happy to expand on anything of mine that you disagree with / want to hear more about so feel free to ask, caveat of this being I've not read enough of Mulch/LUV to have a discussion on them yet.- Mulch
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Mulch, we're not lynching LMK today. Please get over that. There are flips that would give us so much more information.
I already went into this a bit, just maybe not to your liking.In post 852, gerryoat wrote:
whyIn post 820, Chickadee wrote:Guys, as much as I know you would all love to LUV lynched, he's town.
Basically, this is town!LUV all the way. Scum LUV would have no reason to be as present as he is. He's been vigilant about questioning actions, and he's drawn quite a bit of attention to himself. He's pushing the agendas he wants hard. He's smarter than this. If he flipped scum, he would be giving us a goldmine of information. It's not how he plays. This is too risky for his scum game. I pulled some quote earlier. It's in my ISO, which shouldn't be too hard to find seeing as my ISO is really short. The quote I had pulled were all I had to read to know LUV is town. And his play beyond those quotes hasn't done anything to change my mind.Instagram: BoneSpellArts
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Active does not always mean town. Scum can be active too. I would say that you can get a lot of associative information from active players flipping. So yea, it can be better to flip active players.In post 914, GreyICE wrote:
Do you really argue it's better to lynch active players?In post 910, gerryoat wrote:LMKguy has 4 post, he could easily be lynchbait. Why do you wanna lynch him 4 posts into the game for him? When there is lynches that could likely be mafia and also give of partner tells
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No, it doesn't differ as evident by his original reads list. He still had them as scum reads and you're trying to sugar coat it for reasons I can't understand. You're now telling me that instead of leaning scum on the yellow names, he was shading them by saying how they could be scum and to look out for them. If that's true, that actually makes me want the slot dead more.In post 908, ReplacedIn wrote:@Mulch - Vote Tmchill (See how worthless statements like this are, now stop doing them).
@Danny - It's not that Tchill town read Mulch and asked her a question; it's he asked her a question that insinuated he wanted her approval for him eventually moving his vote, when she didn't he moved anyway, it's a 'what's the point of waiting for an answer then' type thing. Got any particular read of mine you want to bounce some thoughts around about?
@Massive - I'd not consider this a 'long D1' it's been ~6 RL days so shouldn't be conf-biasing reads this early on at all. I don't think Chickadees been that fluffy and 'formed reads but no workings to get there' is pretty natural for most people upon replacing in, it's a lot of information at once, you have reads based on it but aren't able to put them together as nicely as you'd like. I think you like LUV are misconstruing what MMM had posted, his middle section was null reads that he thinks fit the archetype of scum that aren't posting as much, do you think it's implausible to lump you in that category regardless of what your meta is like? I'd have found it suspicious if hedidhighlight other names that are low-content and not include you so you scum reading that is pretty unreasonable and illogical.
@LUV - You are misinterpreting his reads, take a look at the spoilered quotes below, it's him not him scum reading their posting itself but rather admitting the lack of content generated from them makes sense as scum, that differs from a scum read and is more a "Keep an eye on these posters" type read which is pretty understandable. How you're attempting to accuse him of lying over this is pretty mind-boggling stuff and if you're actually town maybe step back and look at it from his shoes, you'll notice why he was getting frustrated then and maybe could actually step back and reassess.
Man, you're a better player than to actually believe the bolded here, "hmm, what scum motivation is there not to put someone to L-1 or join the leading wagon late on it". Like Tchill not voting MMM should have minimal impact on your read on MMM and doesn't change the fact that slot is town and there's lots of reasoning that should lead you towards that. Run me through the Evee town read please because apparently I'm bad. I'll also take words on your town read on iDanny because I'm getting sort of ~weak town feels~ from him but haven't been able to really lock that down.In post 901, GreyICE wrote:Anyway thoughts currently are that tchill's slide onto LMK is like... disconcerting and weirdly positioned.If we assume the tchill slot is scum (good assumption) then why isn't he on the mmm wagon? Mmmm?
Would also lynch tchill because, well, he's scum.
Strong town is idany, Uzi, Eevee, Mulch. Anyone scumreading them is bad.
It's still all about his overreaction to massive. Why isn't it natural for someone to have voted for MMM in that scenario? MMM was pushing for people to pay attention to the posters that haven't provided much content so far because they could be scum. No shit they could be, but there is no reason to mention that in this setting since the level of play in the Normal Queue is that most of the people you'll be playing with will be aware of that. It's more likely that he was scum reading them, lied, and awkwardly walked back when called out on it.
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@LUV - This is the last time I'll attempt to reach you on this point. MMM had town reads (Top line) and scum reads (Bottom line), this is impossible to argue about. His list in the middle was desgined to be his null reads but in there he highlighted the players the thinks could fit a specific scum archetype, he's not scum reading them per-say but admitting they could potentially be scum, this is a completely reasonable thing for him to do. This shouldn't be hard to grasp, Massives vote there for calling Massive a lower content player was defensive as MMM's point about his lack of content wasn't untrue and MMM wasn't actually attempting to push Massive on this at all, in fact he'd not even dropped Massive down to his bottom line. This is why he was getting frustrated, because no one was attempting to look at things from his PoE and you're continuing not to do so. Like I can understand why both Bomberman and MMM replaced out just from this little interaction I've had with you so far.
What does a MMM!Town flip do to help you solve Tchill and what does a MMM!Scum flip do for you because that last line from you feels throwaway.- Tchill13
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I don't become great or anything but there's an actual lynch and there's more hard evidence such as where votes were on the lynch.In post 906, GreyICE wrote:In post 903, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not on the MMM wagon because I'm not scum. I'm just really bad town on day 1.
What changes about days 2+ that make you "good town" on those days?- gerryoat
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its better to lynch scummy players who are active than non scummy players who aren't active.In post 914, GreyICE wrote:
Do you really argue it's better to lynch active players?In post 910, gerryoat wrote:LMKguy has 4 post, he could easily be lynchbait. Why do you wanna lynch him 4 posts into the game for him? When there is lynches that could likely be mafia and also give of partner tells
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