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[Killthestory]

It's easily the most progressive hip-hop album since Yeezus.

There's a lot wrong with this opinion and I'm not sure where to really start

1. Yeezus isn't really that progressive
2. This is not that progressive either, but it's still good
3. Atrocity Exibition is better than both, and actually has a sound that could be considered ""progressive""

boy yeah right yeah right yeah right

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's easily the most progressive hip-hop album since Yeezus.

There's a lot wrong with this opinion and I'm not sure where to really start

1. Yeezus isn't really that progressive
2. This is not that progressive either, but it's still good
3. Atrocity Exibition is better than both, and actually has a sound that could be considered ""progressive""

Man what the hell are you smoking? Yeezus is extremely progressive and it's baffling to me that are still people in this world who don't understand the magnitude of that album. Nobody in mainstream hip-hop has every done anything like it before. They're definitely a lot of people in the underground that have had similar styles, but they didn't do it like Ye did.

It's wasn't just simply the sound that made it so unique. It was the overall approach. A lot of Yeezus was raw samples. On Site, Black Skinhead, Blood On The Leaves and Bound 2 notably. This combination of simple construction, industrial and electric influences, and honest and identifiable lyrics is what arguably makes it the most progressive album of all time.

Let's also not forget the influence. After Yeezus, a lot of artists took a lot of stabs at the conventional and risky release. Beyoncé with self-titled or Kendrick with To Pimp A Butterfly comes to mind. Bon Iver, Travis Scott, and a lot of the production of modern trap like Young Thug, Future, and Migos have also been greatly impacted by the album. Experimental, dark production is coming up in the hip-hop world the same way Drake and Kid Cudi came up during the emo-rap wave of 808s that's still relevant today.

Anyway I could go on, because I haven't scratched the surface of the surface yet but I won't because I'm not sure if you're just trolling me or worth the time.

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I know a lot of people like Atrocity Exhibition but it's not as progressive and forward thinking as Big Fish Theory. It's just an experimental hip hop album with really unconventional beats. Big Fish Theory is an album that took an entirely different existing genre of music and applied it to hip-hop.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeezus was mad ahead of its time. Its influence is all over the new soundcloud rappers

Wouldn't say big fish is stricly a Uk garage/rap mashup. There's lots of house and detroit techno influences which which don't usually show up that often in rap

Lol this too.

[Bomberman]

It's easily the most progressive hip-hop album since Yeezus.

There's a lot wrong with this opinion and I'm not sure where to really start

1. Yeezus isn't really that progressive
2. This is not that progressive either, but it's still good
3. Atrocity Exibition is better than both, and actually has a sound that could be considered ""progressive""

Man what the hell are you smoking? Yeezus is extremely progressive and it's baffling to me that are still people in this world who don't understand the magnitude of that album. Nobody in mainstream hip-hop has every done anything like it before. They're definitely a lot of people in the underground that have had similar styles, but they didn't do it like Ye did.

It's wasn't just simply the sound that made it so unique. It was the overall approach. A lot of Yeezus was raw samples. On Site, Black Skinhead, Blood On The Leaves and Bound 2 notably. This combination of simple construction, industrial and electric influences, and honest and identifiable lyrics is what arguably makes it the most progressive album of all time.

Let's also not forget the influence. After Yeezus, a lot of artists took a lot of stabs at the conventional and risky release. Beyoncé with self-titled or Kendrick with To Pimp A Butterfly comes to mind. Bon Iver, Travis Scott, and a lot of the production of modern trap like Young Thug, Future, and Migos have also been greatly impacted by the album. Experimental, dark production is coming up in the hip-hop world the same way Drake and Kid Cudi came up during the emo-rap wave of 808s that's still relevant today.

Anyway I could go on, because I haven't scratched the surface of the surface yet but I won't because I'm not sure if you're just trolling me or worth the time.

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I know a lot of people like Atrocity Exhibition but it's not as progressive and forward thinking as Big Fish Theory. It's just an experimental hip hop album with really unconventional beats. Big Fish Theory is an album that took an entirely different existing genre of music and applied it to hip-hop.

Look man I used to really love Kanye back in like 2013 but I outgrew my stan phase and don't appreicate him as much sorry if you felt it was personal

[Bomberman]

Also you're grandstanding for a lot of contemporaries but don't talk about artists that are under the surface of what is publicized and known

Young Thug, Future, and Migos

Oh my god lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nah it's all good. It just felt like ignorance lol.

Yeah I don't listen to a lot of hip-hop.

[Bomberman]

I (personally) do not see big fuss about Yeezus, and this is coming from an 18 year old at the time who thought it was greater than sliced bread when it came out. Maybe if I gave another listen I could see your points, but the fact remains and the biggest glaring problem for me is the fact Kanye's bars on that album are straight garbage. Are the beats unconventional from an artist who has limelight in the mainstream? Definitely. I can see the argument made from that perspective, but when you dig a bit deeper it just ain't all impressive to my ears.

Blood on The Leaves/Black Skinhead/New Slaves are still good though

[Bomberman]

pedit: This picture is still brings the lol to this day

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Honestly most of the bars that people have a problem with are the bars that go to show how messed up the persona he's putting forth is. The fame and frustration had him fucked up. People think they're just bad or stupid bars, but when you put them into the context of the album as a whole, it makes sense why a person like Ye on Yeezus would say shit like that.

Hold My Liqour is a drunk, self destructive rant about love lost. Bound 2 is about optimism and resolution in a hilariously fucked up relationship. Through these lenses, the lines have a role.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lmao Pitchfork

[Bomberman]

"Eatin Asian pussy all I need was sweet and sour sauce"
"Get this bitch shakin like parkisons"
"I fuck you hard on the sink, after that get you somethin to drink"
"I just talked to jesus, he just said 'what up yeezus' I said shit im chillin, tryna stack these millions"
"In a french ass restaurant, hurry up with my damn croissants"
"I keep it 300 like the romans, 300 bitches, where the trojans"

There's just too many hit and misses for me, but at least lines like these have novelty

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Damn bruh

[Zachstralkita]

LMFAOOO

[Dark Horse]

Don't forget "Uh, I be speakin swaghli" Dude's such a visionary he literally created his own language

[Killthestory]

BFT is fucking amazing haha

[Killthestory]

in other news new hamilton rap

and jayz is dropping an album two days from now

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Baka just got officially signed to OVO!

4Milli soon

[Zachstralkita]

I forgot about Denzel Curry's EP.. this shit go so far and he got Ugly Mane on it??


apparently these are all tracks that didn't even make his project? He has a project ..

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/denzel-curr ... 17304.html


What Blackland Raider Klan did for rap (at least in Florida) will never be forgotten. Paved the way too, so much upcoming talent in FL at the moment its crazy

They're the reason ASAP has their style (three 6 is the reason everyone has their style but yeah)


nell, denzel, travis, simmie, xavier wulf, key nyata.. spaceghostpurrp


so much talent came from it

Nostalgic 64 is one of the most underrated tapes ever

[Killthestory]

what is your definition of talent good man

[Zachstralkita]

beside like kodak etc...

XXXTENTACION is an example. and im not trolling


you can't look into his discography and tell me he makes shit. on the contrary he has like, some really interesting shit. Just managed to attract the worst fanbase for whatever reason



He's literally manifested success too

[Killthestory]

xxx might be good but i refuse to listen to anything he ever will do because of his degenerate fan base

[Lil Uzi Vert]

He's alright just not for me. It's not just his fans though. It's his music too for various people I've talked to.

Shame he blew up off of Uzi's flow and the Drake beef and still will probably become the next Vic Mensa.

[PJ.]

How is xxx fan base degenerate?

What do you mean by next "vic mensa"?

Xxx is kinda trash, and yeah his only big song sounds exactly like Uzi.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I just get the feeling he will end up like Vic. Incredibly talented and versatile but very try hard to be an all-around artist so much that the image will change.

[Zachstralkita]

He has multiple good songs it puts him out of the "trash" category