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Tchill13 is at L-2!
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In post 1085, ReplacedIn wrote:I'd kind of consider this L-2 really L-1 in that I think the second he gets put to L-1 there's a realistic chance that either Mulch hammers him or he self-hammers and not really wanting to end this day before hearing at least something from the LMK slot and from Arona. Don't think we need to run the day to deadline or anything like that but certainly some content from them before a hammer would be nice. And sure, if you want to just chat for a bit here before you actually finalise your reading that's fine. I just think I've gone over my reads on MMM & Tchill pretty extensively so far and not something I want to spend the time I can muster now doing. I'm happy to talk about other players though since strengthening/re-examining my reads there certainly would help.
My current ~townish pool is effectively GI, Gerryoat, iDanny, Mulch, yourself and the MMM slot with the Eeve slot possibly if Tchill is actually mafia.
In there I'd only really say I've got confidence in the GI, Gerryoat, Mulch and MMM reads? I can't actually translate my ~town thoughts~ on iDanny into actual words and reasoning and normally that's when I just drop the read so would like you to talk to me a bit about him if you've got time, Eeve too since outside of thinking Tchill-Eeve aren't aligned based on recent interactions I actually have a scumish read on her.
Also didn't get around to mentioning it earlier but I think the sheer speed at which GreyICE pulled up that meta comparison from Tchill (~12 minutes) and the accuracy of his reasoning points pretty strongly towards Grey actually having done a little bit of meta reading into Tchill when I'd pointed out he'd had two completed scum games and kind of think that's a decent indicator that Greys actually town here. Especially when combined with thinking his prior interaction with me came across as him genuinely attempting to analyse the game. Probably my most confident town read at the moment.
I feel i missed something.
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Your premise was "what if MMM is confirmed town" so good on you to switch up the parameters of the response to make me look bad.In post 1081, ReplacedIn wrote:Want to run through this a little more, why do you think if the MMM slot is scum there'd be more scum vocally defending him then pushing him?
Unfortunately this is just me confusing this game with the ONE other game I am playing in, where Gamma also got replaced.In post 1081, ReplacedIn wrote:Also um, the bolded here is ahugeconcern given Gamma has well, 0 posts inside the game so this kind of feels like you just making up reads.
Oh I see you caught it.
Why would scum need to vocally defend MMM if he's town? Getting wide townreads helps them zero. Getting town mislynched is how they win.In post 1082, ReplacedIn wrote:if the MMM slot is town* the above should read."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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In post 1102, massive wrote:
Your premise was "what if MMM is confirmed town" so good on you to switch up the parameters of the response to make me look bad.In post 1081, ReplacedIn wrote:Want to run through this a little more, why do you think if the MMM slot is scum there'd be more scum vocally defending him then pushing him?
Unfortunately this is just me confusing this game with the ONE other game I am playing in, where Gamma also got replaced.In post 1081, ReplacedIn wrote:Also um, the bolded here is ahugeconcern given Gamma has well, 0 posts inside the game so this kind of feels like you just making up reads.
Oh I see you caught it.
Why would scum need to vocally defend MMM if he's town? Getting wide townreads helps them zero. Getting town mislynched is how they win.In post 1082, ReplacedIn wrote:if the MMM slot is town* the above should read.
Depends scum can defend a wagon to get someone else mislynched so they can nk the person they defended to get towncred.
Its a gamble but can be effective to eliminate two players who may give them trouble.Show-Lord Giratina-
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He and I basically have the same read on you. Why do you ask him to explain his read on you, but not me? Why does it matter to you that a few people mildly scum read you? If you were being actively pushed I might understand, but that's not really the case here is it?In post 1101, EeveeLution Army wrote:Spoiler:
I feel i missed something.
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Eevee: I don't think anyone is nightkilling MMM to get towncred. Do you?"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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In post 1104, Formerfish wrote:
He and I basically have the same read on you. Why do you ask him to explain his read on you, but not me? Why does it matter to you that a few people mildly scum read you? If you were being actively pushed I might understand, but that's not really the case here is it?In post 1101, EeveeLution Army wrote:Spoiler:
I feel i missed something.
But could you explain your scumish read on me?
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In post 1105, massive wrote:Eevee: I don't think anyone is nightkilling MMM to get towncred. Do you?
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Grey, explain this vote to me. You come off MMM because he's being replaced and we don't have a chance to get a claim out of him to avoid accidentally lynching a PR day 1, right? And in the same post you vote LMK, because serious, who has even less content than MMM. How do you justify that?In post 612, GreyICE wrote:Hey guys I have an idea. MMM isn't here. I'm not going to vote a person who isn't here without some PR nonsense and we don't have that.
I'd also like to offer an idea. The more people post, the more likely they are to post something scummy. That doesn't mean that scum never post lots or town are never mostly silent, but holy shit does it mean that some of you need to chill on each other. Your noise provides nothing but a forest for scum to hide in.
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Reading the spat between Bomb and LUV again was annoying, but I don't understand how this was the end of it. Bomb was trying to get LUV to change his view of MMM by saying empty slot, pr, yada yada yada, all while currently voting someone with less content and an equal chance of no claim. LUV repeatedly asks why Bomb sees MMM as someone to not lynch when they have more to go on and more to gain from his lynch. Bomb keeps asking what LUV thinks can be gained (which he actually does answer by saying he didn't want to give up any info to scum by discussing what Bomb wanted him to). LUV says he's been doing that and asks his question again, bomb tells him to fuck off. LUV quotes all the posts he made about MMM in the one just prior to this one from Bomb, and then he replaced out.
I don't know what the point of this line was, but all it did for me was point LUV more towards my town pile.- Formerfish
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Look at this mook following anyone onto the newest wagon.
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No. The question was "why wouldn't scum loudly defend town-MMM rather than loudly push him" and the answer is "scum don't want to loudly defend a townie because that could result in that townie becoming widely townread." I maybe could have used a few more words in that sentence.In post 1106, Formerfish wrote:Massive, did I read that right? Being widely townread as scum doesn't help them?"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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This makes a lot more sense now in context. You're wrong, but I understand what you are trying to say now. I don't know why we do this grey. I've shown myself to not be a totally incompetent player, but I still feel almost disdain from you every time we play. Maybe you are just that afraid of my scum game your default setting for me is scum?In post 682, GreyICE wrote:FYI whenever someone puts the loudest and clearest voice in the town as one of their only town reads (along with FormerFish for... some reason... (buddy) it's a bad sign- Formerfish
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Ok that makes more sense, but I still disagree. You saw what happened last game we played together. I was scum and hardcore defended a townread to gain towncred for myself to bank for later in the game. You know white knighting is a thing and why scum do it. Why are you acting like this is a foreign concept?In post 1112, massive wrote:
No. The question was "why wouldn't scum loudly defend town-MMM rather than loudly push him" and the answer is "scum don't want to loudly defend a townie because that could result in that townie becoming widely townread." I maybe could have used a few more words in that sentence.In post 1106, Formerfish wrote:Massive, did I read that right? Being widely townread as scum doesn't help them?- Mulch
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That vote IS hella susp lolIn post 1109, Formerfish wrote:
Grey, explain this vote to me. You come off MMM because he's being replaced and we don't have a chance to get a claim out of him to avoid accidentally lynching a PR day 1, right? And in the same post you vote LMK, because serious, who has even less content than MMM. How do you justify that?In post 612, GreyICE wrote:Hey guys I have an idea. MMM isn't here. I'm not going to vote a person who isn't here without some PR nonsense and we don't have that.
I'd also like to offer an idea. The more people post, the more likely they are to post something scummy. That doesn't mean that scum never post lots or town are never mostly silent, but holy shit does it mean that some of you need to chill on each other. Your noise provides nothing but a forest for scum to hide in.
I'd also like to submit something for consideration:
Vote: LMKGuy
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I disliked the Grey/LUV spat as well. It seemed like a carbon copy of the Bomb/LUV issue with slightly different ingredients. To me it felt like LUV was again asking for someone, anyone, to explain why they had a town read on MMM and why they were less willing to lynch him without a claim over other people, also sans claim. Instead of answering the question Grey berated LUV and went into ad home attacks. LUV tried to get an answer and was told to shut the fuck up. All while being told that he's basically a piece of shit for not taking other people's opinions as gospel and changing the way he's been interpreting the game. I think this is why I clash with grey. Hes kind of an egotistical ass who bullies people in thread who don't confirm to his way of thinking. Is he scum? Probably not, just a dick.- Formerfish
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This may be fucked up, but I want to take credit for MMM. He did replace out right in the middle of a thing he and I were having.In post 758, massive wrote:I'm caught up but not much has changed for me. Let me know when it's my turn to be so upset by Uzi that I need to replace out.- Formerfish
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Another sheep vote out of nowhere. Has anyone tried showing this guy something shiny yet?In post 761, Tchill13 wrote:So I just looked at lmkguys 3 posts and his biggest scum read just so happened to be the largest wagon we had going at the time? I don't know about that.
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This was meIn [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9375530#p9375530]post 1117[/url], Scott and Ramona wrote:I think there is a good chance Bomber slot is scum honestly.- Lil Uzi Vert
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This vote bugged me as well (unless this is a joke vote I didnt get). Grey wont vote MMM because hes being replaced, votes lmk who is inactive, MMM gets replaced, immediately votes for the replacement citing the fact that tchill joined the wagon on lmk as one of his reasons. What?In post 763, GreyICE wrote:Vote: Chickadee
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Tinfoil hat time: What if this is grey actually telling tchill to go check their scum thread because he is fucking up right now and grey is trying to coach him from the pt?In post 765, GreyICE wrote:You could check the quicktopic and get back to me on who the other two are. - Formerfish
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