Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

[Vedith]

RAINBOW READS!!

kraska77

MuttonChopMagic

Cheetory6

CCC

gigabyteTroubadour

NotTheRealPaul

Grendel

Backhand

Hiraki

Okay guys...Here it is!
And before scum say that Implosion told me who scum are, no... I worked it out by myself.

Also, I'm a PR. A backup \o/

So, you can all start chanting my name now. I solved the game.

VOTE: Hiraki

[Cheetory6]

Ty Vedith.

[Cheetory6]

VOTE: Vedith

[Hiraki]

My reads this game are shit, I'm tempted to vote Vedith solely on the basis of "you were so fucking wrong, just shut up and suck it you twat" but I'd like more time to do work

[Vedith]

My reads this game are shit, I'm tempted to vote Vedith solely on the basis of "you were so fucking wrong, just shut up and suck it you twat" but I'd like more time to do work

Hiraki is just angry scum caught!

[Backhand]

Why so confident on CCC?

[Hiraki]

Do i need to write something comprehensive again?

[Backhand]

Sorry, that was directed at vedith. Its the one point where he didn't just match game consensus, so I'm curious what he thinks about it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

vedith dont ever toy with my heart like that ever again

VOTE: vedith

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also just fyi 2-shot loyal friendly neighbor seems really weird in this setup when there's other pr claims

we've had games that were just 3 masons from the start and no other prs

[Vedith]

</3
Gigga, we could have been special!

But yeah, I'm 100% confident here that I solved the game.

[Vedith]

Hiraki isn't voting yet because he wants to avoid my wagon. It's easy game easy money from this point.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why backhand?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like that's a reasonable teamread from your pov but how did you work it out

[Vedith]

like that's a reasonable teamread from your pov but how did you work it out

What do you mean how did I work it out?
Are you implying that Implosion told me the scum team? Because he didn't... However much it looks like it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

how did you find the scumteam?

[Vedith]

Interactions / VC / Logical reasoning

[CCC]

RAINBOW READS!!

kraska77

MuttonChopMagic

Cheetory6

CCC

gigabyteTroubadour

NotTheRealPaul

Grendel

Backhand

Hiraki

Okay. Backhand/Hiraki does make some sense as a scumteam. (I'd still like an explanation of how you figured it out, Vedith, so that I can test the strength of your reasoning).

The thing is, though, that Vedith/Grendel

also

makes sense as a scumteam. (So does Vedith/Hiraki, for that matter).

So. Two options.

One, Vedith is Town. He really has solved the game; the solution is above.

Two, Vedith is scum. He is lying through his teeth.

Personally, I think that the second is more likely. And on the off-chance that he

does

flip Town - well, then we'd have a completely solved game and just need to go through the lynches.

VOTE: Vedith

[CCC]

Interactions / VC / Logical reasoning

I think we're going to want a

teensy

bit more detail here.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Interactions / VC / Logical reasoning

I think we're going to want a

teensy

bit more detail here.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

vedith can still be town but wrong but we have enough mislynches to work through it

[implosion]

Vote Count 3.1

Vedith (3): Cheetory6, gigabyteTroubadour, CCC
Hiraki (1): Vedith

Not Voting (6): Hiraki, Grendel, MuttonChopMagic, NotTheRealPaul, kraska77, Backhand


With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is at 7:00 PM PST on Wenesday, July 12, in (expired on 2017-07-12 19:00:00).

[CCC]

also just fyi 2-shot loyal friendly neighbor seems really weird in this setup when there's other pr claims

we've had games that were just 3 masons from the start and no other prs

It's always possible that there are scum PRs to balance it out.

In fact, going back and checking the rules post:

1. Any mafia member who has a night action other than their nightkill may both use that action and kill on the same night.

This seems to imply that there

are

Mafia members with other roles. And how does a Godfather interact with the Loyal modifier? Would a Mafia Godfather still get the Friendly Neighbour message?

If a Godfather

does

still get the message, that could seriously mess with our situation here.

[Backhand]

also just fyi 2-shot loyal friendly neighbor seems really weird in this setup when there's other pr claims

we've had games that were just 3 masons from the start and no other prs

It's always possible that there are scum PRs to balance it out.

In fact, going back and checking the rules post:

1. Any mafia member who has a night action other than their nightkill may both use that action and kill on the same night.

This seems to imply that there

are

Mafia members with other roles. And how does a Godfather interact with the Loyal modifier? Would a Mafia Godfather still get the Friendly Neighbour message?

If a Godfather

does

still get the message, that could seriously mess with our situation here.

I agree--a friendly neighbor and a backup and a "not very informative" role (per NTRP) and presumably some kind of protective or possibly blocking role? It seems like a lot.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

godfather isnt normal and is highly unlikely (like .0001% chance) to be in play

i want to avoid setup spec at the moment but i see it as really unlikely that theres a backup pr :/