Mini 1916: Buttersnap Shitfuckery (Game over, Town win!)

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Socrates

I trust Jesus's scumhunting skills.

Jesus Christ

AND

Socrates voted here!?
This is obviously today's wagon!

VOTE: Socrates

[Aristophanes]

PAGETOP!!!

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: @Leonshade:

VOTE: Piggy

<3

<3

Canadians Represent!

[Aristophanes]

WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

MOTHERFUCKERS

WE ROLLED SCUM

PREPARE TO BE FUCKING POCKETED Y'ALL

VOTE: Vegito

Get yo ass bussed Nacho baby.

He nancy!!! =D

I submit to the pocket. It's unavoidable really!

[Aristophanes]

schadd_, this is one extreme post restriction XD

[Aristophanes]

Can we never lynch schadd because that is the best post restriction ever

A grand idea XD

[Aristophanes]

And for the record, I don't have a post restriction. I just really hate Canadians.

I put maple syrup on my poutine.

Fite me!

[Aristophanes]

The only *urrp* good Canadian is a-a dead Canadian.

VOTE: Piggygal15

And for the record, I don't have a post restriction. I just really hate Canadians.

I put maple syrup on my poutine.

Fite me!

this head is canadian, as well as disgusted with this statement by Aristophanes.
please, come raze us to the ground.

VOTE: Aristophanes
~Chara

I was more offensive than Leon?

Is it because I took on the Canadian Mantra while also inviting a tussle?

Or are you opposed to the blessed, sweet creation which I hold dear??

[Aristophanes]

Has there been anything AI yet?? I haven't seen anything.

I'll look back and see what I can do!

[Aristophanes]

Okay I have soulreads on: Ari, Chickadee, Almost50, Leonshade, Nachomamma8 and they are Town, Town, Town, scum, scum, respectively.

VOTE: Ari

I think you spelled Nacho wrong

[Aristophanes]

<3 <3

We should!

So why are you voting him?? This isn't part of the plan!!!

[Aristophanes]

Ari you rolled scums

VOTE: Ari

nancy, I don't know what you're talking about!

Who's my scumteam if so? I'll help you bus them so we can play longer

[Aristophanes]

Maybe Nacho but I'm not sure yet

You got us XD

VOTE: Vigito!

[Aristophanes]

Hmm if it's not Nacho is it schadd?

Why not both?

[Aristophanes]

Actually, I don't think Scum gets a post restriction here. They're too obvious and I haven't seen many mods give scum anything that makes them stand out, like, ever?

[Aristophanes]

Let's mislynch him then.

But I enjoy him shitting on my homeland and poor, poor Bel! It's hilarious!!! XD

[Aristophanes]

Okay what about PiggyGirl, can we mislynch/bus her?

She and Chara denounced my Maple Syrup Poutine!!!

I would be okay with either dying

Also, Piggy is so not as interesting in the Scum PT, so like, I'm in!

[Aristophanes]

Okay vote it up babe!

VOTE: Piggy

[Aristophanes]

<3

[Aristophanes]

I predict _schadd will be nightkilled.

lol lol lol lol lol lol VOTE: socrates

or at the very least can people not say this kind of thing bc shitfuckery, scum coordination &c

honestly the only thing scum should be able to coordinate about is an endless onslaught against belisarius. if anyone scumclaims in thread for the sole purpose of mutinying belisarius and his stupid grimy face then i promise not to vote them ever

Are you seriously suggesting that I am trying to signal to my scumbuddies about the NK?

Giphy is amazing.

Just as much so as maple syrup.

This thread is not as amazing as maple syrup though. Something stinks.

I just Google image what I want. Usually the scene in looking for is easily fooud!

Did you know there's a genetic variance that makes your urine smell like Maple Syrup!?

[Aristophanes]

First quote I forgot I clicked

Socrates has a good point here though!
Loke, that's a seriously weak argument and in that's what _sch_ad_d_ really thinks he should be voting myself and DD as well!

[Aristophanes]

Can I get in on this? Please and thanks.

I need something to do.

Sure! Come his piggy with me!

[Aristophanes]

His = bus...

[Aristophanes]

His = bus...

Is this the code y'all worked out in scumchat in pregame

Foiled again!!

[Aristophanes]

Lol Jesus is sheeping me XD

[Aristophanes]

I thought he was supposed to be a shepherd!

[Aristophanes]

Prism replaces Pim

Sweeeet! =D

[Aristophanes]

Guys, this isn't a Normal.

Who tf cares about normal guidelines!?

[Aristophanes]

Then help it pick up pace?

[Aristophanes]

I g-guess I don't see the Socrates *urrp* thing as scummy, more anti-town. Doesn't mean it's not coming fro scum, but not worth a vote.

I don't disagree here tbh.

[Aristophanes]

Leon, I assuke, has to post as if drunk?

I doubt all scum have post restrictions tho. I mean that would be too obvious!
Plus, I don't have one, so it's an impossible theory

[Aristophanes]

Literally on the same page

I love it!

[Aristophanes]

Leon, I assuke, has to post as if drunk?

I doubt all scum have post restrictions tho. I mean that would be too obvious!
Plus, I don't have one, so it's an impossible theory

But WINE

I know!
I love wine

[Aristophanes]

You talked with Math already??

I'd sheep you, but I'm already there

[Aristophanes]

Right, makes sense

Why is your vote on scum not serious tho?

[Aristophanes]

I haven't been home!!!

Even now I'm at McDicks ordering grease burgers!

I do indeed have some light reads. It's hard since not much has really happened yet

[Aristophanes]

And how many p-posting restrictions are in this *urrp* game anyway? I don't think Socrates actually has one, or he's been really inconsistent if so?

That would make it a post suggestion

[Aristophanes]

Lmfao Prism got the counter-restriction to __schad_d

[Aristophanes]

You know it's possible someone got a restriction that prevents them from saying that that person has a posting restriction, among other things. But I definitely don't have that. Absolutely not.

Lol WTF kind of post restriction is that!?

I like the other ones better! This one is just stupid! (Sorry Bel <3)

[Aristophanes]

I, for one, have no post restriction.

I guess they're NAI though. There's no way all these people who have them are town!

[Aristophanes]

I got prodded??? That seems too soon. Oh well! Back to this

[Aristophanes]

I'm boring??

[Aristophanes]

I think I'm going to have to V/L.A. until Wednesday.

I'm fairly certain I won't have time to be here!

Will check in occasionally and can probably post a bit, just not a lot.

[Aristophanes]

Want to sort anything before I go DD?

[Aristophanes]

Why you on VLA

I has sads

No sads required! I'm off to Toronto to see a girl :O


Then with work and other usual commitments I just won't have time.

I will try to post from work though!

[Aristophanes]

Yeah!!!!!

I'll tell you all about it when I get back! =D

[Aristophanes]

Alright, I gotta read up obviously. What's the reason for the __schadd wagon?
DD, are you advocating a Piggy wagon based on a scumread or as a counter to schadd?

[Aristophanes]

Wtf Schadd just died!?

Holy shit!

[Aristophanes]

But omg that Bah post <3

[Aristophanes]

But omg that Bah post <3

Ari, give me a reason to townread you.

Lol it happens in time

I just saw this stuff and like, wtf!
Means post restrictions are legit this game!
I had thought they were a town indicator, and was doubting that until this moment. Any serious post restriction claims are prolly town though. To auto-kill a scum member seems unbalanced in general.

I think you and DD are town. I forget most of my other reads and am behinds, so I really wanna catch up on this before I make solid reads.

[Aristophanes]

Cool. DD is town.

VOTE: Aristophanes

Lol this was obvious already
Thanks for coming around!

Why the vote on me? Pressure?

[Aristophanes]

I was hoping to Betelgeuse you, but simply appearing isn't enough to appease me.

Also I'm waiting on Nacho to give some guidance here. He seemed to have you on lock-down based on our last encounter.

Coolio, lemme know how that goes for you

[Aristophanes]

OMG Why is DD dead

I'm here, catching up now

[Aristophanes]

Okay, reading up from schadd's death because it's a reasonable start point.

Prism and Leon were faking restrictions? That's a bit shifty. Why pretend to have a restriction??
This feels like a way to get easy towncred, and they now have to backtrack because modkills are legit for restriction breaks apparently!
I'd say one of them is probably scum for it. I'll have to Iso them once I'm caught up to see which.

I had thought they were a town indicator, and was doubting that until this moment. Any serious post restriction claims are prolly town though. To auto-kill a scum member seems unbalanced in general.

Don't write it off yet. That would also make scum stick out pretty badly if none of them had post restrictions. It would basically make POE way too easy.

It looks like only the one was legit, so my point above stands. I still hold that it's unlikely any scum have one because if it is something that can immediately end a player's life in the game, scum aren't likely to have a legit one. I could see someone faking one though, thus my thoughts on Prism and Leon.

Piggy's "Wagon Analysis" in 554 sucks!
She says it's a great way to catch scum, then lists all the wagon components as her strongest townreads. She doesn't look at the votes on the wagon or the reasons, just the players overall (not wagon analysis!). The stances are off too, as they all end up strong town despite the reasons being a lot more grey. Basically says Shadoweh is a gut meta read despite some weird posts, Vegito is town because...gut that's based on them both being good players? Is this even a stance?? Like "You're both good enough to fool me, but I town read you anyway" is such a cop out stance! Leon read is just gut based on him not having anything scummy in his posts. I get that, it's fine, but it's stated very oddly to make it could like there's more to it. Then rates them 2.3/10 Scum (so, town) despite saying they're a possible Third Party (for no reason at all) literally a sentence before!
These reads all feel fake and appeasy and the 3P callout is just weird.

DD getting schadd's PR (and probably his entire role since the role's name was Post-Restricted Townie) seems fake af to me, but alright, not sure why y'all are just going along and believing that. I'll believe it when DD slips and also gets modkilled, it just seems like an opportunistic scum play to me.

This seems like they're pushing the read because they've committed to it and don't want to change it. DD inheriting the post restriction was very town indicative and Piggy ignored this, going as far at to wish for a Modkill to confirm them town. That's absolutely not a town thing to wish for!

Their other DD arguments weren't very good or deep, and the pre-flip associative they pushed on Socrates and DD was just bad.

Continuing to read up.

[Aristophanes]

Don't think that Prism is faking his post restriction. Dueling post restrictions is just

too

perfect and Beli is the kind of shithead who would be stricter about one post restriction than he was about another, particularly if one was inheritable and the other wasn't. I don't see motive for Prism to fake dueling post restrictions as scum.

Socrates, I didn't feel good about Aristophanes before he went on vacation and don't really like his posting since his return. I don't think this is as obvious as his play in Questionable Content, but he's almost managed to get through the entire day without doing anything and so he's probably just scum here

Vote: Aristophanes

Yeah yeah
I hadn't gotten a chance to give this game the time it needed. I'm doing that now!
Anyone familiar with my meta (I'm looking at you, Nacho) should know I simply can't do this as scum. Nice try though! Let's lynch actual scum, alright?

I'm not particularly worried about the crazy people although they will make awkward long-term roommates if we both stay live, so yay.

What do you think about Almost Chara? I'm realizing a general town-lean towards Vegito/Chick/DD/Leon/Sock/ACish? is probably way too many and they're the one that makes me wonder the most out of that crowd. Maybe that's just too much preemptive paranoia though. I hadn't acknowledged Ari as a player in this game in my head, but I feel that way about Ari, AC and Rauth combined.

</3

I mean, I know I haven't done much, but this just hurts!

Okay, so now we know, whoever gets it next is almost definitely actually conf-town. At least we get that consolation in exchange for probably losing another townie.

Nah there could be a scum backup. In fact you could be scum for saying it knowing that you have a fucking scum backup.

Beli I imagine is an even worse hydra partner than me, sadly I didn't get to spend more time insulting him

This is possible actually. I need to look into Rauth a little more but his posts have an odd feel to them and I know nancy and Math are both quite good so I want to push on their dying read! <3 you nancy! So sad you got yourself killed so soon

Also, if Prism says they are faking, I will believe they are faking.

So you, with the post restriction that you Totally for Sure don't have, can't see why Prism saying "Beli who I would lick the butt of every day did not give me a post restriction of course not I just love his butt that much" might not be truthful?

Yeah, I just realized with Prism's more recent posts that it's prolly a legit restriction and they prolly just can't say that! Rauth not getting this somehow is another thing that pings me, as it shown disengagement with something they should totally get, especially if they have a restriction they also are not allowed to talk about. I'd forgotten about this "restriction" in my last post, but it rings disingenuous now! I'd be pushing the lynch in this direction if we had more time left in the day!

And like, this sounds even more fake!

I'm saying I'm not sure why more than one person would have the same sort of restriction

We have seen a backup get the same post restriction as schadd already. We see Prism combining 2 other claimed restrictions (schadd/DD's, but in the contrary, and yours). Then you say it's extremely unlikely that there are similar restrictions in the game? This makes me more inclined to think Prism's restriction is real and yours is faked, as the dueling restrictions is far more likely and thus the inability to admit they have it becomes more believable as well!

What is your read on Prism anyway?? How affected is it by your disbelief in their restriction? If you disbelieve the restriction and think they're lying, why aren't you voting there!?

[Aristophanes]

Doggon dammit! Aris is TOWN. (Just about time you towned it up, bro. I was starting to have my doubts)
On second thoughts, I'll degrade you to Town Lean for now. I'm waiting for another signal to be 100% sure.

~A50

Glad I could finally be here man!

[Aristophanes]

If you'd ever interacted with me before you'd know my joking around is absolutely NAI. I do this because I like the people I play with and have a lot of fun in Mafia games! The whole reason I play is to have fun with friends! And nancy is one of my favourite people on the site, so of course I interacted with her more than anything. She is amazing and I know I can read her if we interact. I also had been calling DD town well before they inherited the restriction, so them lying about it would make no sense to me, and the getting it just gave me more evidence of their towniness!

Your voting for me despite my being a lesser scum lean suchs and I can feel the survivalistic nature of it seeping through!

Also, I'm going to look through AC's posts because I call bullshit on them never having posted reasoning for any of their reads.

What is this hidden alternate reason for believing there's a third party?

[Aristophanes]

Okay a few things now that Aristo is back:
First of all, Prism has blatantly broken their restriction without dying. So yes, Prism was faking. After hearing why she was faking, I no longer think she is scum.
Second of all, that was a scummy vote Piggy.
UNVOTE:
But I will give you a chance to figure out why that is so wrong.
No one vote Aristophanes until this gets sorted.

Piggy if you actually go through and gave reads on literally everyone I would probably be fine with not voting you.

This sounds so much like scum coaching their buddy holy shit!

I hate preflip associatives, but Rauth/Piggy scumteam is legit viable!

Ninja'd

[Aristophanes]

I'd honestly rather Rauth than Piggy at this point.

VOTE: Rauth

Last minute, I know. We have a day though!

[Aristophanes]

Ew

?

[Aristophanes]

My list is obviously
Rauth
Piggy

Chim needs to do more to be readable!

[Aristophanes]

Did you steal your role from Gay Mafia?!

What was AIDS in Gay mafia? Was there a way to prevent it like this??

[Aristophanes]

Ari, will you be here in 2.5 hours to hammer?

100%

I should have mentioned

intent

If they are an AIDS Doc, what does that mean? AIDS doesn't sound like a mafia kill flavour at all! Sounds more like an arsonist/firefighter setup to me, meaning AIDS giver (?) Is prolly 3P.

[Aristophanes]

Vote: Almost Chara

Why Chara?
I don't get this scumread.

Chim is Jesus Christ?? I don't know if I buy it, But it does seem to make sense in what we've seen so far.
Shadoweh, how

did

you guess his flavour!?

[Aristophanes]

More like Arsonist if anything, like I said earlier.

Bulletproofmaker sounds too OP to me.

[Aristophanes]

More like Arsonist if anything, like I said earlier.

Bulletproofmaker sounds too OP to me.

Too OP for the townies who are obligated to tell Belisarius what an unbelievable piece of shit he is then eats a modkill for their trouble?

Yeah, you might have a point there tbh. Double Modkill D1 means town would have to be stacked elsewhere.

[Aristophanes]

Ari, you never answered my arsonist question

Where you don't know why I think it? Wasn't a question exactly.

But I think the protect sounds like a firefighter role. Well, did. If he can't protect those who are infected already that's out the window as a theory!

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes, are you still on? We need you to vote. Also, Piggy is at L-2 right now I believe.

Yeah, I'm here!

VOTE: Piggy

Very happy with this.

[Aristophanes]

Now let's be clear, I won't have sex with ANYONE in this game until this AIDS issue has been solved.

</3

[Aristophanes]

3 heartbreak in 2 posts??

I'm so sad </3

[Aristophanes]

Which is a question that can be answered after we figure out if we can lunch anyone but Piggy

Other than Chim I don't think we can!

[Aristophanes]

Which is a question that can be answered after we figure out if we can lunch anyone but Piggy

Other than Chim I don't think we can!

Think Chim's role makes him very likely town; don't you?

Absolutely, so with ChimTown and PiggyScum this is easy!

A claim is always good though, I agree

[Aristophanes]

Quick question: Should Chimchar/his target claim who got AIDS protection tomorrow? Or is it better to keep it hidden, so AIDS man will waste their AIDS shot?

The latter for sure!

That's like when people claim BP! Makes no sense!

[Aristophanes]

I think we only have 5 minutes left.
Does somebody want to lock in that hammer? Piggy obviously isn't claiming.

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, 2 minutes now.

[Aristophanes]

Vote: Ligfy✓/b]

Drunk?

[Aristophanes]

shut up aristophanes

fuck Canada

Love you too!!!

[Aristophanes]

I get the lynch I vote thanks to Jesus Christ and AIDS. What a weird game.

What Shitfuckery

[Aristophanes]

Beli, we lynched someone

and

the deadline is here, please show us a red flip now. Maybe after Leonshade answers though.

He's not even online lol

Why do you want to cut twilight so short!? It can be huge in getting conversation and reads going!

[Aristophanes]

Beli, we lynched someone

and

the deadline is here, please show us a red flip now. Maybe after Leonshade answers though.

He's not even online lol

Why do you want to cut twilight so short!? It can be huge in getting conversation and reads going!

>isn't currently forming reads

All of this helps. I don't always look like I am, but it all comes together to paint a picture if people and I hate seeing it cut off!

[Aristophanes]

Just noting the fact that not only is it twilight it's after deadline. I don't really want to cut our conversation short, pretty sure one of us is dead tomorrow if Piggy flips red.

Backtracking now, eh?

This is scummy shit! We're townjiving and you're scared by it!
This is still tomorrow's lynch!

See Vegito, valuable time to make reads

[Aristophanes]

Also, If you'll excuse me, I have to go get a tetanus shot.

[Aristophanes]

(The reason I'm iffy on AIDS being poison is that there's nothing in my PM that talks about AIDS or Jesus, I'm called an Apothecary, but at the same time it's really unlikely that there's two strongman killing roles out there, but maybe)

An apothecary with dick medicine? WTF

[Aristophanes]

Or could there be an AIDS cult?

These are words I never thought I would read...

[Aristophanes]

Chickreads: Ari town, Rauth scum, believed Prism was faking restriction, had a good feeling but 'weary', I don't think she liked Vegito either.

Rauth/Vegito with a side of Jesus aids? I don't think anyone town-reads Rauth do they?

This seems plausible. What made you vote Jaidsus out of the gates?

I'd rather Rauth today, obviously.

VOTE: Rauth

[Aristophanes]

Because he fucking lied about his role and quickhammered Piggy?!

Wait what??

I thought Vegito was the hammer!

[Aristophanes]

Official Vote Count 1.FINAL

(LYNCH!) Piggygal15: (6) Almost Chara, Rautherdir, Leonshade, Aristophanes, Vegito, Chimchar

WTF!?

Okay, yeah. I didn't see that!

VOTE: Chim

Nice try, scum!

[Aristophanes]

Also, sorry. I feel like shit today. I think I pissed in my sink last night

[Aristophanes]

Piggy was getting lynched regardless of me participating.

Well that is the bastard element of my role I guess? It implied I could not hammer but the difference between the two votes wasn't mentioned in my role PM.

My role PM does say Jesus Christ cannot hammer so...

Sigh... I really don't know what to say that makes this any better.

You could just admit you're scum and selfvote

[Aristophanes]

Huh. Weird. Did anyone roleblock me?

Why do people do this. What ever is the point!?

[Aristophanes]

Huh. Weird. Did anyone roleblock me?

Why do people do this. What ever is the point!?

I don't know, maybe I'm just genuinely curious if someone roleblocked me?

But it begs the question: Why would you assume you were roleblocked!?

Which I hate asking because I know where this has to be going. So out with it already!

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, this needs to be discussed more.

UNVOTE:

I don't have the time to parse this yet but did Rauth just claim AIDS giver!?

[Aristophanes]

You are actually letting me get away with fake-claiming... wow.

What the hell!?
Are you a jester or??

[Aristophanes]

I have been prodded. I wont have time today most likely, but I'll be here tomorrow

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: ARISTOPHANES

NO KITTIES ALLOWED

THIS IS DOGNATION

WOOF WOOF WOOF

You don't even go here!

Nacho I'm going to Get You for leaving me here with these children.

Vegito left???

I'm not a child you know! XD

[Aristophanes]

Sick dodge tho.

@Aristophanes:

I know you're V/LA but I want you active again and with me.

What's your opinion on the Vegito/Transcend slot? Do you concur with my reads on Leonshade and Socrates?

I'm breaking my posting empowerment left and right but by the good grace of my lord and savior Belisarius we might win this game yet.

What are your reads in them?
Wait, don't tell me! I'll look them up myself

Vegito/Transcend is interesting. I was waiting for Nacho to ingrown because I know he can, but it never happened. I do like Transcend thus far though! So, maybe a town slot.

[Aristophanes]

@Ari: have you ever rolled third party? SK?

SK is legit my favourite role!

If you look at Aeronaut's College Mafia you'll see me in action

[Aristophanes]

The issue with Nacho is his approach towards you. Assuming you're town, you're a free townread. Despite this, he tried to get you lynched early, before he really had time to be certain either way (Keeping in mind you were on V/LA). His explanation was that free reads are "best to cash in early"...except again you weren't yet able to be read. This just reads like a willfully missed opportunity to nail you solid one way or another to me. Am I crazy? What do you see in this?

I absolutely agree here and it is what skeeves me most about the slot.

Transcend has a townfeel though. I'm not gonna put stock in it yet, but yeah.


And Nacho made more of an effort to find and link posts where he "sorted me" than he did to actually sort me, which is disgusting!

[Aristophanes]

Ari made multiple promises to catch up and failed to follow through. V/LA or not, that's a red flag. He finally did some decent posting, enough to stave off a lynch, but I am beginning to wonder what a 3p Ari looks like.

Found the game for you

[Aristophanes]

I'd actually be pretty okay with a Jester kill today. I haven't seen a game ending Jester in use, like, ever because Fuck You if you put that in your game, Bel!

Sharing a win with a 3rd party is nice and I don't see why we would deny them this!

VOTE: Rauth

And Shadoweh, I don't think he would become VT, because that's not losing powers, that's changing alignment. At best he'd become a Survivor (basically a vanilla 3P) and that can arguably be worse for our wincon, as a any mislynch would essentially give Scum the majority then, assuming 3 scum members.
It's far better to lynch him if this is the case.

[Aristophanes]

It's less about allowing Rauth his cake and more about letting Chim live. Do you want Chim to live at this point, Ari?

Not particularly, but I do think he sounds genuine is his fuck up. I mean, there's no way he should make it to endgame, but that doesn't mean we have to deal with him this second, does it?

[Aristophanes]

Kinda. Remember that we're already down 4 players even though it's day 2. Then we have Jesus to contend with if we let Chimchar live.

Yeah, but if Aids does what we think and we let Rauth live then we're so fucked tomorrow. If we lynch Chim today and he is town, then there's an NK, we come back tomorrow to 7 players, 3:3:1 - with the 1 being a Survivor. If this is the case, autoloss.

If we get rid of Rauth today, since he's obviously not contributing to town's wincon, we come back tomorrow to 4:3. Yes, we're in Lylo with a Jesus vote, but if we all promise to powerlynch Chim tomorrow then as soon as a vote is placed anywhere but on him, we have confscum. Yes, we have to worry about a blitz, but at least we're not autoloss! We cannot lynch Chim today and hope to win, but we may have a chance with a Rauth lynch.

[Aristophanes]

If the game lasts three more days, I fully expect Jesus to ressurect, Fwiw.

Also, Beli told me that we couldn't lynch Jesus in this game. #WebOfLies

Jesus Christ, but what about the alternate Jesus role?
Like, there's loopholes everywhere

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Chimchar

There is no world in which we take Chimchar to LYLO with us, unless there's a cop clear on him.

We lynch Chimchar, he flips scum = yay we lynched scum-
We lynch Chimchar, he flips town = Well at least the Jesus vote is gone, so we can actually play out LYLO.
We don't lynch, but we mislynch, Chim is town = tomorrow is probably LYLO, and scum can quicklynch the second Jesus votes town.
We don't lynch, but we mislynch, Chim is scum = tomorrow is probably LYLO, and scum can quicklynch the second Jesus votes town.

The only scenario in which we lynch Rauth, and tomorrow isn't LYLO, is if the jester counts as one of the anti-town roles. Or there's no mafia in this game, and it's just a bunch of 3Ps instead. I'm not willing to take a risk on either scenario being the case, and we might actually test the latter one, depending on Chimchar's flip. If we were going to lynch Rauth, it should've happened D1. Now it's far too late.

Leon, take a look at my post though. Like, I see your logic, but it's flawed here.

[Aristophanes]

Post I was referring to:

MOD: is it possible to lynch Jesus?

No. I did my game where it was possible to lynch Jesus two years ago

Right, but the implied context is the Jesus Christ vote.

[Aristophanes]

It's less about allowing Rauth his cake and more about letting Chim live. Do you want Chim to live at this point, Ari?

Not particularly, but I do think he sounds genuine is his fuck up. I mean, there's no way he should make it to endgame, but that doesn't mean we have to deal with him this second, does it?

He really doesn't, he's playing exactly how caught scum would. Make a (bad) excuse, apologize and accept lynch, mostly lurk in hopes that town buy into your WIFOM.

Kinda. Remember that we're already down 4 players even though it's day 2. Then we have Jesus to contend with if we let Chimchar live.

Yeah, but if Aids does what we think and we let Rauth live then we're so fucked tomorrow. If we lynch Chim today and he is town, then there's an NK, we come back tomorrow to 7 players, 3:3:1 - with the 1 being a Survivor. If this is the case, autoloss.

If we get rid of Rauth today, since he's obviously not contributing to town's wincon, we come back tomorrow to 4:3. Yes, we're in Lylo with a Jesus vote, but if we all promise to powerlynch Chim tomorrow then as soon as a vote is placed anywhere but on him, we have confscum. Yes, we have to worry about a blitz, but at least we're not autoloss! We cannot lynch Chim today and hope to win, but we may have a chance with a Rauth lynch.

Who's the Survivor?

I really don't see Chim flipping town, and I'm also not certain that Rauth doesn't count as one of the anti-town players for the sake of balance (if this game even has any balance). Lynching Rauth so we can hope to blitz Chimchar before the scum can blitz us seems suicidal. I'd rather lynch the caught scum now, than hope to lynch him tomorrow.

And even if you're right, if Chimchar is town, we lose in both scenarios. Why not lynch him today, then, and have a better chance of winning if he's scum?

Re:Who is the survivor

"The Gift of Gay - Each night, you may choose one living person to infect with HIV. They will be notified if they are infected. After three nights, the HIV will become full-blown AIDS and make them so sick they can’t use any of their powers anymore (vanillaizes them)."

I'm just saying, AIDS isn't necessarily a kill. Maybe you'll become town, Rauth!

I don't think that Rauth would become town, and I would not be surprised if the Aids was sped up this game. What is a Vanilla 3P? A Survivor.

As for a lynch on Chim vs Rauth, yes, if he is scum we come out better. If we lynch Scum Chim we actually some into a decent spot, with 4v2v1 and no Jesus to screw us up. But I'm not putting stock in ChimScum, and I think giving Scum Jesus Christ's vote would be overpowered. It just doesn't make sense.

[Aristophanes]

I think this is suicide as far as a town win, but Socraates and Leon are 2 of my biggest townreads, so I'll join them here.

VOTE: ChimChar

This is

L-1

If you have anything else to tell us, Chim, please do!

[Aristophanes]

Also, how the hell did I get poisoned if we already lynched the poisoner? Or is vomiting & pissing in my sink a sign of catching AIDS?? I'm not sure.

You too eh?

I have no clue what it does!

[Aristophanes]

I dunno, but I've made this handy diagram to demonstrait my night actions as I feel they are relevant!

Spoiler: Pika Pika

Easy money!

VOTE: Transcend

Shadoweh, do you think Transcend was the NK target then? I don't think it makes sense really, so probably is the scum who made the kill. I'm happy to conftown you if he flips scum!

[Aristophanes]

That is true. I find that highly unlikely however since a large amount of people thought vegito was scummy and Transcend has not exactly been giving off 'i am a good townie to nightkill' vibes.

Answered my own question #literacy!

[Aristophanes]

Sorry, I got excited.

Thoughts: A50 and I both have pissed on our sinks which must mean something. If it were a fruit vendor they would have claimed by now, so it's probably a Mafia/3P role. This means neither of us are confirmed to not be scum, but we also have a less likely chance of it.

Leon and Soc are strong townreads, you are basically a Conftown now (once the scumflips occurred here), and Rauth is Jester.

So by PoE, scum has to be Prism or A50. I will re-Iso them as well as Soc and Leon to be sure, and it is possible theres another 3p giving out this Pissy night thing in that group as well (minus A50), but we have this game in the bag otherwise!

[Aristophanes]

Thoughts: A50 and I both have pissed on our sinks which must mean something. If it were a fruit vendor they would have claimed by now, so it's probably a Mafia/3P role. This means neither of us are confirmed to not be scum, but we also have a less likely chance of it.

Did you piss in your sink tonight or on the previous night? I'm confused.

Previous night.

Also, sorry. I feel like shit today. I think I pissed in my sink last night

I wasn't sure what it was or if someone was gonna claim it, so I merely left a crumb.

[Aristophanes]

im a tracker

aris went nowhere n1
i did not get a report from shadoweh n2

i thought they were ascetic hence why i voted them

This is utter bullshit!

I'm not claiming what, but I absolutely did go somewhere N1!

Thanks for scumclaiming Transcend!

Can we lynch this now?

[Aristophanes]

vvvvvvvvvvvvMAFIA CLAIMvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

DO NOT PUT SOMEONE AT L-1 WITHOUT A CLAIM.

^^^^^^^^^MAFIA CLAIM^^^^^^^^^^

Lol no.

I have every reason to believe Soc is town.
You're so full of shit!

[Aristophanes]

oh wait chimchar was poisoner

townslip but whatever still getting lynched lol

Literally the fakest townslip ever!

You're not even trying anymore, are you!

[Aristophanes]

...no you didn't

look you're obviously not scum because if you are then when i flip tracker you would basically be confirmed scum and you wouldn't sell yourself out when you're soft inno'd by me

therefore you're reaction testing me and your reaction test fucking sucks

you went nowhere n1.

Riiight, this is toooootally a reaction test

I went somewhere N1 and you're scum baiting a claim.
I'm not going to engage with this any longer!

If you somehow got no result on me N1 there is some legit Shitfuckery in play here!

[Aristophanes]

if you don't retract what you said in 1192, you're gonna have to be powerlynched when i flip tracker so i'd best retract it now since i'm already at L2.

Scum Tracker maybe. You're full of shit either way!

[Aristophanes]

I haven't read today yet but I see were lynching Jester. That's cool. I'll place intent for later, but I'm not hammering until I've read the thread. We have lots of time!

[Aristophanes]

It would be tragic if I died! I know I would be sad. Sadoweh

In Very Game Important information I learned not to mix wine and hot chocolate yesterday even if it's a honey wine, but I think the awfulness somehow made me drunker so your mileage may vary..

I told you that would taste bad!!!

[Aristophanes]

I just read the rest of this day A50. Gimme a break!

I'll place my intent to hammer here.

If the game doesn't end I'll see if we can get associative with the living from dead scum Isos.

I'm positive Shadoweh, Socrates, and Prism are town though.

[Aristophanes]

So, Rauth was scum, but the game is still going on? I thought we had this on lock down! I'm gonna Iso the dead scum because if they have a buddy, this will become obvious.

Might be a third party left, but the fact that Rauth was Mafia not 3P makes me doubt that.

[Aristophanes]

Ari. Claim. Immediately.

Absolutely!

I'm a parity cop!

I can only target one player per night though. If the player I targeted the night before dies or the player I am targeting dies, the pairing resets.

I visited Shadoweh N1 and Prism N2.
N3 I went to Socrates and was going to check parity with Leon last night, but I got disrupted by his death.

I softed all of my visits in my last post before night in case I died last night.

[Aristophanes]

Are you absolutely sure the pairing doesn't reset after one was found? (I mean after N2 when you knew Shadoweh & Prism are of the same alignment)?

I know the STANDARD tole doesn't, but I urge you to reread your PM and ask Beli if needs be to be absolutely sure.

I obviously phrased that badly. I checked that Shadoweh and Prism were aligned together. It reset then.

I was checking if Socrates and Leon were aligned together, that got disrupted and reset.

[Aristophanes]

Oh, and I guess I'll also point out that an investigation failing because the target is killed is also very much abnormal.

I Absolutely agree, but that's the way it was given and that's the way it worked so...

[Aristophanes]

Ari, this is Day 3. According to you, you copped Prism and I to be the same alignment. Why would you suspect Prism as scum instead of clearing him at this point?

Because Why would I make it obvious there?
Why would I give scum that info when we weren't at a point of a solid win yet??

Like, if I outed then, it would have resulted in a net loss and more uncertainty! I knew you were town already, I didn't need a.scumflip from Transcend to confirm that. I put Soc and Leon in the same category because I was grouping them together next! If I'd outed, there was too much chance of scum turning the game around on us considering the number of players left alive. That double night kill actually basically won us the game!

Like, I have a clear on you. Therefore you and I are for sure town. If we lynch one of Soc and A50 today, you block/protect one of me or the other at night (assuming i draw the NK or scum Nokill) then tomorrow we lynch the final scum if we missed today! I meant it when I said the game was in the bag, but I wasn't going to say why yet, obviously!

[Aristophanes]

How am I just laying town??

I want to read the two I don't have confirmed so we can win. What the he'll is wrong with that??

That's really sly of you to try. I'm buay, but I will read you two and I will sort which of you is scum. At this point I can't see it being anyone but you, but I'm not going to vote before I do my research.

[Aristophanes]

Okay, what does it seem like I've missed Shadoweh?

[Aristophanes]

I forgot about the block on A50

You're absolutely right!

VOTE: Socrates

[Aristophanes]

@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?

Because i knew Shadoweh was targeting you so I wouldn't be able to get a result there! I figured I'd either get innos on both, confirming you as scum for an auto win, or I'd get a nonparity result and we would auto win by lynching within them consecutively. The death screwed that plan up

[Aristophanes]

@Ari: Why did you target Leon on N4?

Because i knew Shadoweh was targeting you so I wouldn't be able to get a result there! I figured I'd either get innos on both, confirming you as scum for an auto win, or I'd get a nonparity result and we would auto win by lynching within them consecutively. The death screwed that plan up

And how did you know you wouldn't get a result on me when I'm jailed?

Because that's how jailkeepers work?

[Aristophanes]

Nah. STANDARD JKs do NOT prevent action on their prisoner other than kills. An astute mod like yourself should know that.

I honestly always forget that lol

[Aristophanes]

My Soc pairing failed. I already said that!

[Aristophanes]

If ypu want to lynch me first thats fine. Shadoweh will have to UK him tn and you'll have to be ready to beat him and Jesus to a quickhammer tomorrow!

[Aristophanes]

UK = JK

[Aristophanes]

Honestly I was just waiting to see if Jesus was voting you so I could hammer. >.>

Are you really okay with the game coming down to who posts the fastest? You don't seem very invested. :p

No, I'm not really okay with that. But my flip will confirm Socrates scum and I don't know what else we can do at this point since I'm the De Facto lynch today. Everything that can be said has been said. It's me or him from your standpoints, and I'm the one who you have decided on today!

If you want to avoid this "who's faster" scenario, then we have to lynch Socrates today. Simple as that!

[Aristophanes]

You could admit you're scum and save us deliberating about it for another day..

If I were I'd have accepted defeat by now. Why drag this out?

[Aristophanes]

Honestly I was just waiting to see if Jesus was voting you so I could hammer. >.>

Now's your chance!

[Aristophanes]

Me every day: Ari is scum right, like the scummiest person on earth?
Everyone else: just give him a day he'll grow on you
Ari: hello this is a scumpost
Me: @_@

Yeah, I sucked

Read my lamentations in the Scum Pt if you like! I'm sure it will amuse you!

And yeah, it was weird being at Kingsmeet in the same room and just pretending this wasn't a thing! XD

[Aristophanes]

For those not reading the Dead PT, the daystart/end screenshots are from a spoof of Final Fantasy V by The Devil's Jockstrap, of which I did a Let's Play in 2012.

Also, A50's mystery box was full of AIDS

Fantastic XD

[Aristophanes]

Counting A50 I blocked 3 kills so I think I can safely say I am The Best Ever now to never play mafia again thx

Nope, the best ever must return to play more else they cannot retain their title!

I'll be sure we play again! You can't get out of it this easily

[Aristophanes]

Leon saved me with his doc shot

He sure did!
I should have killed you or NK'd last night, and the game may have been winnable then!
Oh well!

Me every day: Ari is scum right, like the scummiest person on earth?
Everyone else: just give him a day he'll grow on you
Ari: hello this is a scumpost
Me: @_@

Yeah, I sucked

Read my lamentations in the Scum Pt if you like! I'm sure it will amuse you!

And yeah, it was weird being at Kingsmeet in the same room and just pretending this wasn't a thing! XD

You're getting better! This was way better than your other showings I've seen. You even fooled A50 _somehow. Keep it up and you'll be a master mafioso in no time. (Not being sarcastic here, so don't take it that way!)

Thanks man! Sorry I tried guiltying you in the end there! I really had nothing else I could do once I backed myself into a corner!

I had a lot of fun this game, and I'm glad I'm making some improvements
I have to thank the Vegito hydra for their push in the right direction, Trans for his fun showing of Theatre with me, Chim for doing what he had to do, and Rauth for accepting death so humbly

[Aristophanes]

And Bel, what a fun game

[Aristophanes]

I'm just sad that everyone didn't voluntarily emulate schadd_'s post restriction.

I thought about it, but that seemed like too much extra work for a schtick [says the guy who vulontarily wrote in Haiku form for a whole game...]

You really improved this game Aristophanes, so be proud! I think a lot of this was just unfortunate for you-it was close to town autowin after Transcend was gone. While you were better than normal, you were still the odd man out and your lurking tendencies definitely crept back into the picture after awhile.

You managed to escape me longer than the others did! I was pretty set that it was you the last two/three days and almost outed my result (That you visited me the prior night) but figured there was little harm in waiting. At some point I just realized that Vegito might very well have been trying to "cash in" that early read on you to get towncred, and everyone else was just overpoweringly town.

Thanks for the stellar play from all of the town-I think this was a real team effort, and it made it very easy for us to collectively bring home the win. All together, our reads as a group were spot on.

And of course, none of this could have happened without one hot hunk of a stellar moderator

Thanks man! I hope I can continue to improve too! It's only taken about 3.5 years to get to this state! So I should be a decent scum player by 2020!

[Aristophanes]

I'm sad it took y'all so long to kill Rauth.

But yay for the town victory!

Hahaha yeah, I was honestly worried he was going to outlive me for a bit, which was entirely unexpected! XD

[Aristophanes]

Also, I just realized that the end of D1 was just me and the scumteam. Makes me sick.

That was honestly hilarious! XD

[Aristophanes]

2 modkills D1 was nits!

[Aristophanes]

Nuts! Fucking Nuts!

[Aristophanes]

Ahaha yesssss