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[Chickadee]

I'm here, I've read through about page 23-ish, some of that skimming. I'm about to head to work, won't be back until tonight. I do see there are quite a few votes on my slot. Please don't lynch me while I'm away.

Having read through a good chunk of the game so far, I notice theres a lot of toxic behavior. I think it's best that everyone takes a step back, refresh themselves, get perspective, do what you need to do.

I look forward to jumping in tonight. I'm going to be the goddamned ray of sunshine this game needs.

[Chickadee]

I'm here, I've read through about page 23-ish, some of that skimming. I'm about to head to work, won't be back until tonight. I do see there are quite a few votes on my slot. Please don't lynch me while I'm away.

Having read through a good chunk of the game so far, I notice theres a lot of toxic behavior. I think it's best that everyone takes a step back, refresh themselves, get perspective, do what you need to do.

I look forward to jumping in tonight. I'm going to be the goddamned ray of sunshine this game needs.

I dislike sunshine but feel free to be helpful.
A bit of humour to break the tension never hurts.

I promise not to be too bright then?



Damnit Gerry, this is like the third game I've been in with you where you've tried to eat someone. Stahp it!

I'm around right now. I haven't started a formal catch up. I'm cooking dinner right now, so it will come in a bit.

Off of my having skimmed

most

of the game, here's what I feel so far (I don't have a handle yet on replacements and such, just that I replaced MMM, so mind the names if they're wrong):
LUV town
Mulch scum
Eevee Town

I don't have my notes in front of me right now, so more to come later.

[Chickadee]

Mulch, you voted me based off my read list, know that I have not fully caught up yet? Not a very towny move. I promise to ISO you a bit when I have properly caught up though to get a better look at you one way or the other. However, you understand that I can't just take your word on this being your best towny game. It just seems to me that you're doing a lot of awfully anti-town things for this being your best towny game.

[Chickadee]

I would be more than willing to vote my boyfriend if he were scum. He's not. Trust me, I have a good read on him.

I could consider a chill lynch if I find chill to be scum upon catching up.

Gerry, since you're around give me your top 2 picks for me to ISO dig.

[Chickadee]

Mulch, you voted me based off my read list, know that I have not fully caught up yet? Not a very towny move. I promise to ISO you a bit when I have properly caught up though to get a better look at you one way or the other. However, you understand that I can't just take your word on this being your best towny game. It just seems to me that you're doing a lot of awfully anti-town things for this being your best towny game.

This entire game is basically people being scummy

Nah, you're town.

[Chickadee]

Ok, Gerry is not around, Eevee, you're around, and I trust this a bit better having a TR on you. Please give me the top two ISO's to dive. Thanks.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: tchill
Yea, this slot can be scum.

I find it concerning I've been in this game like 12 hours and I have more posts than some of the people who are supposedly in this game and have not replaced out. And I was at work for 8 of those hours.

Arona, LMK, whats up? Any chance we could Betelgeuse y'all in here?

[Chickadee]

ok?

[Chickadee]

Tchill, seriously nothing you've done is making any sense from a town standpoint.

[Chickadee]

VT, nothing exciting

Read me for me LUV. I know you're good at reading me. You'll catch me if I really am scum.

[Chickadee]

Guys, as much as I know you would all love to LUV lynched, he's town.

[Chickadee]

These are the posts that really sold me on Town LUV. I ha da good town read on him early on, and as escalated as the game has gotten, that read hasn't changed.

Well, if you really believed in everything you're saying was for the benefit of town, you wouldn't make posts that posture yourself like #108

..If you aren't nervous, why are you responding to me so haphazardly? This shouldn't even be a discussion from your perspective if I am just neglecting your 'legitimate efforts'

Yeah I'm still not seeing his play here to be of someone who's agitated or on the edge. I think he's trying to talk his way into a town leader like role and it comes off a bit as projecting since he's been downright cringe about it.

There's nothing I gain out of interacting with you at this moment if you're going to just defend yourself blindly instead of seeing that perhaps you need to change your mindset/attitude. Note that I haven't voted you because I believe there is a slight chance you are just Noobtown, but I will say that if you continue to play in the way you are I would have no issue voting you

So you're considering policy lynching him?

Can you give me some thoughts on everyone else who's posted? I know Mulch has been the loudest poster in the room but I'm starting to feel like you have an agenda, and not one that has any town motivation.

Hmm my lingo is rusty what is GAMM again? Also yeah i don't like how he completely tosses away your reads. He should at least explain why its wrongs here.

It's not common; I think I created it, I forgot to explain it early game.

Gut, Authenticity, Motivation, and Meta. Those are the 4 things everyone should be reading others on.

Logic is what we see as true. If scum is good enough your "logic" will be a well constructed lie.

Yes. It's a bad way to read people. Authenticity is better. If someone is BELIEVING what they are saying, even if they have the worst logic in the world, that makes them town.

This is really bad theory.

You only need motivation.

{iDanyBoy, Eeveelution Army, Formerfish}
{Mulch,

LmkGuy, aronagrundy, massive, MordyS

}
{gerryoat, Bomberman, Lil Uzi Vert, Tchill13}

I'm leaning scum on the yellow slots (bar MordyS who I think didn't confirm) until further evidence due to the "scum wants to not have any heat on them during RVS" thing motivating scum to be inactive during this stage in my eyes. Obviously,

most

of these reads are obviously with low confidence as of yet, and are likely to change over time.

I'm not sure on Mulch. Early game posts are hilarious but not really alignment indicative, then he becomes the first player to post reads and actively trying in this game, but his reasons for scum reading seem off at the same time and he could be scum trying to take control as Bomberman I think said (despite his own logic also being flawed). I could see both of them being in the scum team together, actually.

...also holy shit, I just realised I'm scum reading over half the players. (this is assuming the low posters count)

I believe that scum will do anything to win. Mulch's behavior has garnered him a position of control and as a result he's been able to steer the game in any direction he chooses.

If he was scum

, I can easily see his partners letting him continue until he cannot get away with it anymore.

For now let's focus on just one of them. If you look closely, the wording implies that he knows Mulch isn't scum with a level of confidence that town cannot have at this stage in the game, and therefore this is a scum slip. Posts 62 and 223 also ping me - 62 for what imo is a counterproductive question and 223 for the lack of content despite there being plenty of things to comment on. This is probably my most confident read as of now.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I think town here would ask me why I was still voting for someone who I thought was probably town at the time and why I'm still voting for them currently rather than push this narrative.

Why can't town be that confident at that stage of the game? I'd really like to hear your reasoning why as I'm someone who's catches scum in RVS like no tomorrow. Also, according to that read list, tchill is your strongest scum read so why aren't you voting for him? I don't think you actually believe what you're saying but I can't tell if you're being contrarian just to be contrarian or you and him are actually scum.

[Chickadee]

What would you guys think.... to switching to LMKGUY

Based on? Purely activity?

If it gets closer to the end of the day and we haven't sorted a lynch, I'd be fine to policy the LMK slot because of activity. It would be ideal for them to show up though.


Also Eevee, I have not forgotten about your request of my opinions on dany and massive. I have that going on in the background.

[Chickadee]

Mulch, what happened to your ridiculous GAMM theory? Have you thrown that out the window?

[Chickadee]

Dany seems to be picking out the things that are easiest to pick on, and getting nitpicky about semantics. There's not a real sense of effort being put in to his scum hunting.


And Massive, Massive is hard to read. I'm null scum on him right now. He's a low content poster, but he's like that as any alignment, so it takes me a bit longer to really get a solid read on him.

Pedit: Ah, ok, so you just pick and choose the things you want to focus on in your theory.

[Chickadee]

iDanyboy, how much experience do you have playing with massive?

[Chickadee]

Mulch, we're not lynching LMK today. Please get over that. There are flips that would give us so much more information.

Guys, as much as I know you would all love to LUV lynched, he's town.

why

I already went into this a bit, just maybe not to your liking.

Basically, this is town!LUV all the way. Scum LUV would have no reason to be as present as he is. He's been vigilant about questioning actions, and he's drawn quite a bit of attention to himself. He's pushing the agendas he wants hard. He's smarter than this. If he flipped scum, he would be giving us a goldmine of information. It's not how he plays. This is too risky for his scum game. I pulled some quote earlier. It's in my ISO, which shouldn't be too hard to find seeing as my ISO is really short. The quote I had pulled were all I had to read to know LUV is town. And his play beyond those quotes hasn't done anything to change my mind.

[Chickadee]

LMKguy has 4 post, he could easily be lynchbait. Why do you wanna lynch him 4 posts into the game for him? When there is lynches that could likely be mafia and also give of partner tells

Do you really argue it's better to lynch active players?

Is this a thing?

Active does not always mean town. Scum can be active too. I would say that you can get a lot of associative information from active players flipping. So yea, it can be better to flip active players.

[Chickadee]

I'm getting ready for work right now. I'll be around tonight. I've caught up to this point. This post is mostly just a placeholder for knowing what I've read up to.

Have a lovely day everyone.

[Chickadee]

Ok, but like, that reads list doesn't mention Gerry at all. So what exactly are you quoting that in response to? Because it makes no sense for:

if you SR me, why would you sheep my vote on LUV

[Chickadee]

Mulch, is there a reason you're opposed to lynching tchill, other than the fact that it's not LMK? That's not happening today.

[Chickadee]

Mulch, is there a reason you're opposed to lynching tchill, other than the fact that it's not LMK? That's not happening today.

Yes, he's wolfier than he was when he was a wolf. I told you this.

Ok, but can you at least see why that logic is awful? I can't work with 'too scummy to be scum'. That just....

I really don't know what any of us can say to explain to you why that's so flawed.

[Chickadee]

Ok, I think we could speak for everyone when we say we want LMK to come back or be replaced, but I don't think the game should stall waiting for that to happen. There's plenty of day to still use, we don't have to end it yet, but you're stalling our advancement when we keep trying to be productive and you barge in and just yell about LMK. It's not going anywhere at the moment, and continuing to say his name isn't changing that. He's been prodded, so give it some time.

[Chickadee]

We're not letting him do anything. I'm pretty confident he's just not around. He's been prodded and hasn't been in yet.

[Chickadee]

So, you don't want to do anything in the mean time? Please explain to me how you're being pro-town right now, because I've been struggling to see it.

[Chickadee]

I'm not confident he's not scum,

so I don't want to talk him off the ledge, yet. What I DO want to to is wait for LMK to come online or be replaced

Idk, you seem wolfier than last game,

so more towny i guess

who knows

Im not that confidnete

Which is it?

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Gerry, I'm really struggling to see the towniness in this one.

[Chickadee]

Spoiler: @LUV

Alt slip?

R.I.P. yeah.

I think there is a good chance Bomber slot is scum honestly.

This was me

Sorry I haven't been around too too much. Thursdays are busy nights for me. I may or may not be around a little later tonight, but I can make no promises. I've been skimming/reading along up to this point though. There are some longer posts I need to read a little closer than I have.

[Chickadee]

Are we trying to wait for lmk to come back/get replaced, or are we in a place where I can vote and let mulch hammer?

I personally think we could go ahead and vote to get mulch the hammer. I think it's clear LMK is not going to come around today, and who knows how long we could be waiting for a replacement.

[Chickadee]

Feels pointless coming from me, but I'll entertain your request.

Nope

[Chickadee]

Mulch, I'm curious, do you plan on being more helpful this day phase?

[Chickadee]

And Grey, I'd like to talk about you switching wagons yesterday. You were pretty set on lynching me, and then ReplacedIn mentioned I was the first to vote tchill, and that seemingly was enough to sway you.

[Chickadee]

Yes or no Chickadee, this is not optional time.

Feels pointless coming from me, but I'll entertain your request.

Nope

And I'd like to add that no one else answer Grey.

I claimed yesterday, which is why I felt find answering. And Mulch is just being trolly, so whatever.

But no one else answer, just in case it ran across your mind to do so.

[Chickadee]

Beat me to it. I really should start reading before posting.


My point still stands though.

[Chickadee]

Yea, no. I'm not getting behind any lynch with that as a basis.

[Chickadee]

Yea, I'm good with that with how things have gone so far.

VOTE: GreyICE

[Chickadee]

Mulch no

[Chickadee]

VOTE: FormerFish

Makes sense

[Chickadee]

I don't believe LUV, so I'm not going to address it. He's convinced I'm scum, and just wants me dead. If he had a confirmed guilty on me, why did he come in and vote Grey instead of me?

[Chickadee]

On the contrary. If FF flips town, I think Grey is still most likely town. It's a horrible play as scum, he'd be putting himself too early in the game.

[Chickadee]

[Chickadee]

Would also take an explanation on this, you know she's not a PR and a goon...how? That's not what your role tells you.

He's basing it on the fact that I claimed VT. I really don't care to change my claim either, and that's all I'm saying on it.