Mini Theme 1915: TAZ Mafia: Here There Be Gerblins [done]

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hm

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so what were you suspecting me for in the first place?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no we're not healing suzune

if you think it's a doctor you heal me or vedith

HEAL: gigabyte

we get auto win if we take suzune to a three-way lylo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i was mulling it over and yeah i think it's titus

VOTE: titus

we dont really have that much time left but i dont think scum has both a gachapon enabler and a roleblocker. it's probably a better call to not have vedith have the gachapon too since thinking it over it might be a scum roleblocker (even if it's 1-shot). dunn is fine i guess but i would prefer myself by far. no matter who gets it, if it's a doctor it's always on suzune.

i'd rather titus since i think FA dying at the point she did points to her change in perspective, like she didnt really question the abr townreads until D3 and max was a really weird kill. the two are probably related.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait when did titus claim vt

i would assume craig is a vt based on his lack of importance (why is he nowhere in the wiki?) but still.................

[gigabyteTroubadour]

dunn max has flipped flat-out vt

[gigabyteTroubadour]

and titus hasnt claimed and i dont think abr claimed anything beyond flavor

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like rolecop + roleblocker sounds like too much power for a scumteam

giving scum the ability to roleblock after a certain restriction makes some degree of sense i think

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok so suzune is confirmed town from titus's pov and in everyone else's only scum with titus

unless she's scum lying about a suicide bomber but im more concerned about scum suicide bomber suzune being a thing

[gigabyteTroubadour]

titus with the claims do you still think fitz is scum?

we've only had one VT flip and you and backhand are both VT claims, and then there's me too.

4 vts? 5? 3?

What's the setup supposed to be and why? i forgot if you do setup spec but i feel like you'd have more insight here than me

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fuck it's 12? i have work tomorrow

i'll b back

[gigabyteTroubadour]

if shes a scum suicide bomber she can quickhammer titus right now and bomb me or backhand

if shes scum shes not a suicide bomber

[gigabyteTroubadour]

guys :/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i mean

i now think your role could be scum so you should vote for whoever you think is scum.....

what is your titus read and why?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also why and when did u start spelling giga with two gs lmfaooooo

[gigabyteTroubadour]

not entirely sure but we might get away with having suzune suicide bomb backhand and lynching fitz

this is autowin if you're town vedith

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i thought you could be scum yesterday but then i realized that you rolestopped backhand so lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i kinda think it's fitz more than backhand but his role lol

also it'd be role madness if fitz is town which means scum didnt get fakeclaims

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fitz is a gachapon enabler
backhand is a vt
i am too but i have that negative utility and am currently selfvoting

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Dunnstral has gained the following Fantasy Gachapon ability, usable tonight:

roleblock: tonight, you can target another player, preventing them from using any abilities.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the heal thing

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also

HEAL: giga

[gigabyteTroubadour]

eh

if we just lynch today it should be backhand

VOTE: backhand

i can get the gachapon and then force scum to either kill me and deal with autoloss or risk me getting whatever pr and kill suzune

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i think the plan would be to lynch one person have suzune bomb the other

and if scum try to quickhammer then they get bombed

pedit: yeah i know but

ok fine let me look things over

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait he doesnt know what happens >_>

fuck ok hang on

[gigabyteTroubadour]

vedith can you summarize what cakez told you?

you said he explained stuff, can you elaborate there?

would like more than " fitz and backhand are the scum "

[gigabyteTroubadour]

cool

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait is it a jailor or a rolestopper/roleblocker?

and ok, lemme look into those crumbs

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh ok?

i still think that that makes more sense as a town role in the setup though since otherwise town has absolutely no investigative power

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Varsoon - Neighbor
MaxwellPuckett - VT

Backhand - VT

Dunnstral - Neighbor

Titus - Goon

gigabyteTroubadour - VT with voting restriction
Suzune - Suicide Bomber

SlySly - Fruit Vendor

havingfitz - VT that could also be a Gachapon enabler but who tf knows
Vedith - Rolestopping Roleblocker

Creative - Nurse
Frozen Angel - Doctor

Alisae - Loud Rolecop

like i look at this and see the only real power this town has at all is the doctor and nurse - and the suicide bomber ofc

5 vts (dunn, varsoon, max, and then me and whichever of fitz/backhand is town) makes more sense than 6 with no investigative power and a kind of weak killing role

[gigabyteTroubadour]

need suzune to tell me if she thinks vedith is town enough to bomb fitz/backhand

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Faster game.

I dont really want to bicker and trifle over which of you to lynch

if suzune believes vedith is scummy though then the game continues.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

the bomb resolves at EoD

[gigabyteTroubadour]

actually wait

vedith is conftown because he's trueclaiming davenport

[gigabyteTroubadour]

we're in auto win

lynch fitz/backhand in any order or bomb them

[gigabyteTroubadour]

my vote's on backhand

fitz, please follow

vedith can hammer once suzune checks in

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Suzune is being replaced.

o7

hunger games whistle

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also, not sure if this healing stuff still works? But if I am guaranteed to survive the night we can also just carry it on to tomorrow for town autowin.

If I blow up the last 2 people, town wins.

So.....3 way into tommorrow,

Player A
Player B
Vecna

player A votes me, I shoot them, player A unvotes and votes player B, I hammer player B. Player B gets lynched and my suicide gets executed at the same time as the lynch. All 3 die, town wins.

^ has the danger of player B being scum and coming in to hammer me though, so it does have that risk, but if that could be avoided somehow its a town auto if im alive in a 3way.

This

is

an option but we can't guarantee it.

The heal has to be on me (or any strong non-you townread), and it has to be a doc, jk, or rolestopper. We can't ensure that 100%.

safer option is to read vedith and get the other slots. Neither flipped scum have trueclaimed flavor, yet Vedith's (or rather, Cakez's) claim requires him to type out his flavorname in crumbs multiple times. Suffice to say I think by set-up this makes him like 99% town (Dunn was hard confirmed in a similar fashion since Varsoon's pm said that Dunn's flavor shared his hood). I would like to think I'm similarly confirmed since my NU really only makes sense with my claimed character as far as my flavor knowledge goes.

Vedith also makes sense as town since town has no investigative power outside of him (a one-shot roleblocker/rolestopper). You're probably better at setup spec than me but with your role, a fruit vendor, a neighborhood that confirms a member as town lategame, and a doctor and nurse, that fits as the remaining TPR right? Especially with a loud rolecop on scum's side.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

all the town players who died before me had reasons that made them a more critical shot

varsoon as the obvtown leader
max was basically conf from an alisae flip
FA was a doctor
Dunn was an IC and had rb powers

The game itself is constantly... mud whenever i think about it. i forgot why i'm voting backhand tbh - fitz makes a lot of sense to me and at some points more. backhand was the first to call out that scum had fakeclaims when alisae flipped, and when pushing for a flavor massclaim ABR didnt claim true flavor. would think a backhand partner calls this out

i forgot why i'm voting backhand though (i think safer play from fitz possibly being a gachapon enabler) but either one is plausible to me and i just never had the need to think it through too hard

Fitz, backhand, vote Vecna and unvote in the next post as soon as you see this. Otherwise I will not hesitate to powerlynch you

[gigabyteTroubadour]

but basically yeah thats the way to go

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Alright.

I don't mind waiting, if fitz/backhand prefer to end it now then let's.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Vedith rolestopped AND roleblocked Backhand

scum rb makes like no sense anyway

[gigabyteTroubadour]

which is more reason to tr vedith imo

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didnt know it worked like that tho lol

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need suzune to tell me if she thinks vedith is town enough to bomb fitz/backhand

If Suzune bombs me or backhand and gets it wrong (ex. bombs me)...that would leave town at 3p LYLO..yes?

No, someone gets lynched, we are at four, Suzune and their target die we are at two, and at that point its over. I just don't see the upside in using the bomb.

You've only said you cant see the upside — where's the downside?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

do you think vedith and me are scum?

like

both of us are fairly flavor confirmed...?

and flavor confirmed = town as evidenced by dunnie's flip

[gigabyteTroubadour]

eight legs of justice should be more than enough for anyone to get by in this world, and yet sometimes they still prove insufficient. sometimes you just get the shit kicked out of you by a giant robot, and then you're dead, and that's just how it is.

but it sucks when inevitably no one's going to remember you. no one's going to draw fanart of the spider who dies like 30 seconds after he's introduced, especially a spider without any speaking lines. all anyone wants is to be remembered, but not everyone gets that, do they?

it was good while it lasted, though.

Varsoon

Spider Bryan

"Bryan! Bryan with a Y, no! He was my favorite spider boy."

alignment:

town

private topic:

win condition:

you win when all the members of any other factions that oppose your own are eliminated, or when nothing can prevent this.

spider connection:

you have a special connection with your drow, who is named Magic Brian. you are able to communicate with PLAYERNAME each night, who has the role name Magic Brian. you do not know PLAYERNAME's alignment.

private communication:

before the game begins as well as each night, you will be able to communicate with the other member of your neighborhood in private in your private topic.

vote:

you have a vote which you can use each day.

Magic Brian is not conftown here but we know Magic Brian is in the game.

Both scum fakeclaimed their flavor.

Ergo, Dunn claiming confirmed flavor confirms him as town.

Likewise, Vedith and me having abilities closely tied to our flavor should psuedo confirm us in a similar fashion.

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there isnt a way to connect ABR's, fitz's, or your claim to flavor though

vedith literally has to spell DAVENPORT twice to roleblockstop

is there another character who is a man of action like Magnus?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok but

dunn, vedith, and i all have flavor-connections to mechanics

thats my point

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Yeah no we're both conf i think

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I'll make a soviet hammer after work

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suicide bomber is 100% town tho

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wait

fitz only has one vote

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wanna confirm yourself?

VOTE: fitz

dont hammer though im making my soviet hammer

[gigabyteTroubadour]

UNVOTE:

vedith vedith vedith! \o/

[gigabyteTroubadour]

vedith you can vote whenever

[gigabyteTroubadour]

im finding a quote

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i fucked up my clipboard so i'm just going to use my last >_>

GIGGA GIGGA GIGGA o7 o7

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[gigabyteTroubadour]

Good game guys, I was red! ☭

[gigabyteTroubadour]

It's OK Comrade Vedith

I crumbed it in my first post

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so how was everyone's week so far

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also i was town

[gigabyteTroubadour]

fuck i should have bumped the thread so that was post 1917 >_>

Stop playing with my heart! </3

"i was red"

look at your role pm

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exactly!

easy lylo if thats the case

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i still havent read the game proper

[gigabyteTroubadour]

good game though

thanks for modding xyzzy, and for letting me replace!

sorry to town for a mediocre play from me though, i just never really had the chance or need to get emotionally attched to the game but we pulled through anyway

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Yay Gigga \o/
We actually read each other right for once!

lolyeah

I did read you right in PYPwithcards eventually but mathblade fucked ur slot up

[gigabyteTroubadour]

my only complaint setup wise is that town's power wound up confirming itself really fast

my role was obvtown
cakez could confirm himself
neighbor flips had flavor in them which, when scum fakeclaimed, wound up confirming them as town
suicide bomber was a town role in light of town's lack of power
there was a fruit vendor

thats like 6 unlynchable slots right off the bat and that doesnt count the doc/nurse combo

we only lynched creative since we thought FA was bulletproof too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

tbf if scum never got lynched maybe they had a shot

fitz should have embraced the gachapon enabler claim tbh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

you know what i meant though

scum claiming fake flavor let us know they had fakeclaims and they didnt realize they werent needed

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also i loved the death monologues!!

i really have to listen now though to the podcast <_>

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my only concern is

how could have scum won this specific game?

they were basically forced to lynch dunnstral before allowing any scum lynch to occur to prevent an auto win scenario like ours, right?

like after a goon flipped with a fakeclaim there was no real justification for a vedith or me scumread, and suzune's claim worked itself out.

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I don't understand the arghument for flavour confirming anyone as town.

Flavor (in the case of Dunnstral, me, and Vedith) and mechanics being tied together for some roles showed that those slots didnt have fakeclaims. All of the flipped scum used a fakeclaim. Doesnt really make sense for one scum to realize a fakeclaim isnt needed and not tell their partners at the point where ppl massclaimed flavor