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[EeveeLution Army]

I don't give up. And i don't fall for intimidation from anyone especially you. Also i Don't want to hammer yet.

[Formerfish]

I have 3 votes on me. No one is being hammered.

[Formerfish]

And chick is now sitting at 3 votes as well.

[EeveeLution Army]

VOTE: formerfish i want this inspect mess cleaned up

[Formerfish]

Why me over chick?

[Formerfish]

How does me flipping town solve anything? Say that happens and then tomorrow you guys push for grey since I flipped town, and he flips town, then what?

[EeveeLution Army]

Then scum roleblocker is 100% confirmed and we can move from there

[Formerfish]

So we have to kill two town members to confirm a scum role is even in existence? That's bad math bro.

[Formerfish]

We are already down 2, you want me dead here, probably another dead over night, and then want to lynch grey tomorrow, going into another night phase where we would go into day 4 down 6 town members and not a fucking step closer to finding scum cause we've all been stepping on our dicks all game.

[Mulch]

What's up guys

[Formerfish]

Read. Answer questions that are asked of you.

[Mulch]

Can you just post questions here again, and then I'll answer them

[Mulch]

I think that GreyIce is scum for five solid reasons:

1) I think it's weird that they didn't wait for everyone to claim if they roleblocked them or not. What was the point of the first thing asking if anyone did it if they didn't wait for everyone? And he didn't even try to follow up with me when I trolled him in the beginning.
2) I'm confused at that statement in 1203. How does that match up with his mentality in his claim? If I didn't roelblock him, why would I get lynched? If he is so sure he is scum, would I get lynched? I just don't get it...unless he is accusing me of being his partner who is lying about roleblocking him. Or I am lying in general. But then why are they townreading me heavily?
Furthermore, why is he going from "mulch lynched day 3" to "mulch is town" within 10 seconds? Also, see point 4.
3) I don't think FormerFish would be that bad of a person to fake the insults as me as scum
4) I get the feeling he has been pocketing me all game.
5) Their tone seems very fake and their reads list sort of pinged me.

VOTE: GreyIce

[Mulch]

What do you all think of this

[Formerfish]

I refuse to believe you think his play here is as mafia to go and do a 1-1 trade to get you mslynched when he was town read by majority of the room prior to it. Also think his role explains the existence of mine inside the setup completely and don't think he'd have known this prior to his claiming at all not to mention his play is pretty transparently town throughout the whole game. So if you're town you need to actually start acknowledging he's town here and start providing actual reads and content rather than butthurt frustration posts which is what you've been doing so far. Like if you're town here I understand that this situation isn't fun or ideal, but you need to be doing much more with it.

Anyway;

Vote: LUV

Dude is just openly wolfing at this point.

This is like weird for many reasons

Here is where you start being useful. Explain what about this is wierd to you and why.

Which player would you take your account ?

Well apparently if I hand out the password that's very bad, so I suppose I shall consign it to the aether. It doesn't really matter, it won't happen.

Anyway, other reads now that I'm being serious and not trying to live through night 1. Wasn't joking on iDany, but he's not as strong as I gave on. He's still a town read, just not a strong one. Mulch... is not as strong a town read as he'd like to be, but still town. Eevee is still town. Ordering things:

Town

ReplacedIn
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Eeevee
iDany
Mulch
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AronaGrundy
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Massive (please sort this slot somehow,but I'm not using my one shot to be stuck in a topic with someone who doesn't post anyway)
Fro99er (LMK was on the scummy side of null, but the replace out feels like real flaking. Still scummy)
Uzi
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Chickadee
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FormerFish

I don't get

Answer my last post to you, and then explain what you don't get about this one.

And why are you naked quoting yourself?

[GreyICE]

You don't have a guilty, you have a hole where something should be if it were allowed to go through.

Cool story. Also when someone tracks to the night kill they're totally the town cop who just happened to get super unlucky.

But see, they get lynched because they got tracked to the night kill. Then they flip scum, because this shit doesn't happen in reality.

[Formerfish]

And the fact that you refuse to see a scenario where I am town is what gets me. You are so steadfast on your stupid belief that you have wrapped yourself up in a cocoon of idiotic circular logic.

Grey, I am going to flip town. It is going to happen. Why don't you help us figure out the best way to go about this because right now there is an absence of a guilty on me, and chick is being called a liar. How do you feel about liars Grey?

[GreyICE]

Then scum roleblocker is 100% confirmed and we can move from there

Hell no. He flips town feel fucking free to lynch me. It will not happen, because the first rule of mafia is Occam's Razor. The most simple thing is almost always what happened.

In this case, the simple thing is as follows. I am the Town Loyal Cop. I investigated FormerFish. I got "no result" because my action failed due to him being scum.
The other possible thing is I am scum, I made up an elaborate story to try and fake a guilty on FormerFish without suffering the consequences.

He's been floating tendrils to see whether people will buy story 2 or the "roleblocker just happened to target GreyICE to frame me on night 1 where the scum couldn't possibly have a single inkling of what his role was". Now feel free to evaluate the possibility as follows: If I'm scum, then I chose to shoot GerryOak over FormerFish (why) then fake a guilty on FormerFish day 2 in order to get him lynched, rather than, I dunno, do the conventional play of try to get a scummy lurker like Massive/Fro99er lynched and shooting the dreadful threat of FormerFish night 2.

Occam's Razor. What happened?

[GreyICE]

And the fact that you refuse to see a scenario where I am town is what gets me. You are so steadfast on your stupid belief that you have wrapped yourself up in a cocoon of idiotic circular logic.

Grey, I am going to flip town. It is going to happen. Why don't you help us figure out the best way to go about this because right now there is an absence of a guilty on me, and chick is being called a liar. How do you feel about liars Grey?

You lynch all liars. But very importantly, you lynch day 2 cop guilties over everything else in the known universe.

[GreyICE]

No matter what. Lynch luv tomorrow

Although the fact this was his last post before dying does not speak well of Uzi.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That's why I think it was a frame kill.

Gerry is very easily mislynched.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And would it kill you to apply Occam's razor and realize that I'm town with a guilty?

[Mulch]

I refuse to believe you think his play here is as mafia to go and do a 1-1 trade to get you mslynched when he was town read by majority of the room prior to it. Also think his role explains the existence of mine inside the setup completely and don't think he'd have known this prior to his claiming at all not to mention his play is pretty transparently town throughout the whole game. So if you're town you need to actually start acknowledging he's town here and start providing actual reads and content rather than butthurt frustration posts which is what you've been doing so far. Like if you're town here I understand that this situation isn't fun or ideal, but you need to be doing much more with it.

Anyway;

Vote: LUV

Dude is just openly wolfing at this point.

This is like weird for many reasons

Here is where you start being useful. Explain what about this is wierd to you and why.

Which player would you take your account ?

Well apparently if I hand out the password that's very bad, so I suppose I shall consign it to the aether. It doesn't really matter, it won't happen.

Anyway, other reads now that I'm being serious and not trying to live through night 1. Wasn't joking on iDany, but he's not as strong as I gave on. He's still a town read, just not a strong one. Mulch... is not as strong a town read as he'd like to be, but still town. Eevee is still town. Ordering things:

Town

ReplacedIn
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Eeevee
iDany
Mulch
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AronaGrundy
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Massive (please sort this slot somehow,but I'm not using my one shot to be stuck in a topic with someone who doesn't post anyway)
Fro99er (LMK was on the scummy side of null, but the replace out feels like real flaking. Still scummy)
Uzi
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Chickadee
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FormerFish

I don't get

Answer my last post to you, and then explain what you don't get about this one.

And why are you naked quoting yourself?

I answered the first one, the second one feels fake

[GreyICE]

And would it kill you to apply Occam's razor and realize that I'm town with a guilty?

Occam's Razor says the following:

- You voted me over your guilty
- You claimed after I claimed
- You claimed vaguely initially, and didn't roleclaim until pressed
- Your role happens to match mine very closely.

Occam's Razor says there's numerous improbable events in there. Scum gambit.

[GreyICE]

I mean seriously dude, you started the day voting me - meaning you think I'm at least close to as likely to be scum as your claimed guilty - my role happens to match your role very closely, to the level that I counterclaimed you, and what do you do?

You try and sell me on you being town with me. Rather than assuming I'm scum and going from there.

Yeah, you know how my flip goes. You really do.