iDanyBoy's Mini Normal Review

[iDanyboy]

• Open
  10

  Town

  : 3

  Mafia

I meant the ratio is known not the roles.

[iDanyboy]

Yes.
Means he can't be roleblocked.

[iDanyboy]

Traitor also comes up as 'Playername does not have a gun' if targeted by the gunsmith.

[iDanyboy]

His going to get the title in the PM's so JOAT (Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard) or Mafia Bulletproof Traitor and JOAT (Roleblocker/Rolestopper). Btw the mafia traitor is only oneshot so I've adjusted the pm to reflect this

Spoiler: PM

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia Bulletproof Traitor and JOAT (Roleblocker/Rolestopper)
  .
  Your partners are X(
  JOAT
  ) and Y(
  Backup
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night if you are the target of a kill you will survive.
    This ability can only be used once.
    
    
  • During the night you can use one of your two powers. Each is one-shot.
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful any night action that player takes will fail.
      
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful any night actions targeting the player will fail
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

No, I'm thinking of getting rid of the strong part as I don't know how to word it so the player will know how it works. I'm only using strong because I don't wan't him to get jailkept but the way I worded the PM's it isn't clear to the player how it should resolve. I don't think the traitor would block his on teammates and I don't think he would rolestop anyone but his team mates so the only problem is the Jailkeeper. I could change 1xjailkeeper to 1xroleblocker.

Backup only applies to scum and he doesn't get refunded any shots used.

[iDanyboy]

You can't target yourself.

[iDanyboy]

Spoiler: Traitor

Getting rid of strong

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia JOAT (Neighborizer/Cop/Rolecop)
  .
  Your partners are X(
  Backup
  ) and
  REDACTED
  (
  Traitor
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can talk in this private topic.
    
  • During the night you can select a player to kill. You must specify who is performing the kill.
    
  • During the night you can use one of your three powers. Each is one-shot.
    • During the night you can target a player. If successfull you will then be able to talk with that player in this private topic.
      
    • During the night you can target a player. You will receive the result "Playername is
      Town
      ", "Playername is
      Mafia
      ", or "No result".
      
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful you will receive there role name.
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Spoiler: Fixing errors in other Mafia PM's

Fixing partners role

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia Backup
  .
  Your partners are X(
  JOAT (Neighborizer/Cop/Rolecop)
  ) and
  REDACTED
  (
  Traitor
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can talk in this private topic.
    
  • During the night you can select a player to kill. You must specify who is performing the kill.
    
  • If one of your partners dies you will receive their remaining abilities.
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Fixed partners role and win condition is more clear.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia Bulletproof Traitor and JOAT (Roleblocker/Rolestopper)
  .
  Your partners are X(
  JOAT (Neighborizer/Cop/Rolecop)
  ) and Y(
  Backup
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night if you are the target of a kill you will survive. This ability can only be used once.
    
  • During the night you can use one of your two powers. Each is one-shot.
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful any night action that player takes will fail.
      
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful any night actions targeting the player will fail
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group(not including you) is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same). You lose if your partners die and you are the last remaining member.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

If the Jailkeeper and rolestopper target the same user, am I correct in saying that using NAR they would cancel eachother out? if not Rolestopper would have priority.

[iDanyboy]

I don't mind getting rid of the rolestopper/blocker, I only added it because I taught scum were to weak. I think the bulletproof should stay thought because the traitor could get shot by scum or the vig. I want to keep the backup though because I want to see how the scum use there Neighborizer and don't want scum to lose it day 1 so I could make it the back up specific to the scum JOAT. Got rid of the Ascetic and replaced it with a VT as per your recomendation. Made 'Strong Neighborizer' to a 'Neighborizer'.

Mafia

– 1x Shot Bulletproof Traitor

Mafia

– Backup(1x Shot Strong Neighborizer, 1x Shot RoleCop, 1 Shot Cop)

Mafia

– 1x Shot Neighborizer, 1x Shot RoleCop, 1 Shot Cop

Town

– 2xShot Vigilante

Town

– Gunsmith

Town

– 1x Shot Jailkeeper, 1xBodyguard,1xShot Doc

Town

– Vanilla(7)

[iDanyboy]

They are both 1-shot already, I could switch the Backup to a Neighborizer.

Mafia

– 1x Shot Neighborizer

Mafia

– 1x Shot RoleCop, 1 Shot Cop

Scum doesn't need a way to gate all of town's power.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

I'm kind of feeling like the roles for town as they stand would be breaking even against an all goon scumteam.

I would rather add town power then get rid of the cops unless you don't think it can be balanced, maybe a town tracker or watcher..

[iDanyboy]

Could also change the rolecop to a Neapolitan.

[iDanyboy]

I'm using the rolecop so scum could try and find the traitor and would still be helpful even if they missed the traitor, but the cop is only useful if they hit the traitor otherwise its useless. I got rid of the bulletproof to weaken scum and added a Watcher for town to try and balance out the scum JOAT.

Mafia

– Traitor

Mafia

– 1x Shot Neighborizer

Mafia

– 1x Shot RoleCop, 1x Shot Cop

Town

– 2xShot Vigilante

Town

– Gunsmith

Town

– Wathcer

Town

– 1x Shot Jailkeeper, 1xBodyguard,1xShot Doc

Town

– Vanilla(6)

[iDanyboy]

Mafia

– Traitor

Mafia

– 1x Shot Neighborizer

Mafia

– 1x Shot RoleCop, 1x Shot Cop

Town

– 2xShot Vigilante

Town

– Gunsmith

Town

– 1x Shot Jailkeeper, 1xBodyguard,1xShot Doc

Town

– Vanilla(7)

[iDanyboy]

• Open
  10

  Town

  : 3

  Mafia

Looking at the setup if the mafia cop dies night 1 then the town could find out that the scum team has a traitor, if I don't let the ratio known then it's possible that the Vig is a SK.

[iDanyboy]

Change wording in post.

Spoiler: post 2 set up

Game Information:

• This game features a single scum faction.
  
  
• Daychat is disabled by default.
  
• Scum may use any abilities they have along with their factional abilities on the same night.
  
• Game will begin when 11/13 have confirmed their roles.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Vanilla Townie
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess no special abilities other than your vote and your voice.
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

What now?

[iDanyboy]

I did like the BP but I'll leave it up to you guys since I don't know much about balancing games.

[iDanyboy]

bump

[iDanyboy]

Mafia

– 1x Bulletproof Traitor

Mafia

– 1x Neighborizer

Mafia

– 1x RoleCop, 1x Shot Cop

Town

– 2x Vigilante

Town

– Gunsmith

Town

– 1x Jailkeeper, 1xBodyguard,1xShot Doc

Town

– Vanilla(7)

So this is the final set up. Below are the final PM's.

Spoiler: Town PM's

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Town 2-Shot Vigilante
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can target a player. Should your action succeed, that player will be killed.
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Town Gunsmith
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can target a player. You will receive the result "Playername has a gun", "Playername does not have a gun", or "No result".
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Town JOAT (Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard)
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can use one of your three abilities. Each is one-shot.
    • Doctor
      : During the night you can target a player. If successful they will be protected from a nightkill that night.
      
    • Jailkeeper
      : During the night you can target a player. If successful they will be protected from a nightkill that night. Any night action that player takes will fail.
      
    • Bodyguard
      : During the night you can target a player. If they were to die, you will die in their place.
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Vanilla Townie
  .
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess no special abilities other than your vote and your voice.
  Win condition:
  
  You are aligned with the
  Town
  and win when all threats to the
  Town
  have been eliminated and at least one
  Town
  -aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Spoiler: Scum PM's

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia Traitor
  .
  Your partners are X(
  JOAT (Cop/Rolecop)
  ) and Y(
  Neighborizer
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night if you are the target of a kill you will survive. This ability can only be used once.
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group(not including you) is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same). You lose if your partners die and you are the last remaining member.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia Neighborizer
  .
  Your partners are X(
  JOAT (Cop/Rolecop)
  ) and
  REDACTED
  (
  Traitor
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can talk in this private topic.
    
  • During the night you can select a player to kill. You must specify who is performing the kill.
    
  • During the night you can target a player. If successfull you will then be able to talk with that player in this private topic.
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.

Player Name

• Welcome to Mini Normal X, Player name
  
  You are a
  Mafia JOAT (Cop/Rolecop)
  .
  Your partners are X(
  Neighborizer
  ) and
  REDACTED
  (
  Traitor
  )
  
  
  Abilities:
  • You possess your vote and your voice.
    
  • During the night you can talk in this private topic.
    
  • During the night you can select a player to kill. You must specify who is performing the kill.
    
  • During the night you can use one of your two abilities. Each is one-shot.
    • During the night you can target a player. You will receive the result "Playername is
      Town
      ", "Playername is
      Mafia
      ", or "No result".
      
    • During the night you can target a player. If successful you will receive there role name.
  Win condition:
  
  You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment and role.

The game thread is here.