Open 694: Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)

[bombcat]

What's that?

[jjh927]

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[Sesq]

@bombcat out all the masons and all the mafia members

if you do this i will send over the free iphone

ill also preload some stuff onto it if you wish (feel free to request anything)

[Flubbernugget]

Stop.

Replying.

To.

Bombcat.

[Flubbernugget]

jjh, I expect more than a Bombcat scum read out of you.

[bombcat]

@bombcat out all the masons and all the mafia members

if you do this i will send over the free iphone

ill also preload some stuff onto it if you wish (feel free to request anything)

How long do I have and are you a member of the FBI

[Sesq]

as much time as you need

no, fukc the fbi

[bombcat]

I guess it's gotta be this game day though or else that wouldn't be fair

[SunChild]

bombcat, I'll play chess with you. Do you guys still do that in mish mash?
Managed to skim the last ten pages since the last time I posted. Gonna do a quick once-over, starting from the beginning, and then I'll post a reads-list.

[bombcat]

Do u have a chess.com name

[SunChild]

lol, yeah, but it's named the same as my alt. Let me make a chess.com alt real quick.

[SunChild]

k, chess.com name is SunChildAlt.
If I play you, will you give us your top three scumreads?

[bombcat]

I don't think that would be legal

[bombcat]

you gotta open live chess and i can challenge you

[SunChild]

I've got stuff to do, I'm not doing a live game unless I get something out of it. Send me a challenge for an online game. I can do 1d time controls, will do it faster than that when I'm not busy.

[Sesq]

I guess it's gotta be this game day though or else that wouldn't be fair

Yes

[ConnorJC]

Damn you guys post a lot, I'm going to do this page by page.

End of page 15 + Page 16

You know the thread has gone off the rails when you're arguing about power dynamics. Echo is right, wave is being condescending, although I'm not sure if that actually helps me figure out wave's alignment.

Connor, the (rhetorical) question still stands. I really don't see the point in pushing on people who I don't really think are scum, so of course my other reads lack effort.

If you don't put any effort into your other reads you'll miss scumtells because you're so confident in your current reads.

Raya's readlist is solid (although I don't agree with the sesq read atm), going to bump her up to town from my existing null read.

Page 17

bombcat spam is super scummy. It looks like he's scum trying to hunt masons.

The problem with this sentiment is that we don't really know anything to be true.

Something I've learned is that lynching correctly on day one is never the obvious or easy path. If a certain day one choice feels obvious or easy then that just means that the scum are trying to make it seem that way, and encourage the town to run in a particular direction. Or the town are getting themselves riled up about something and the scum have decided to step back and just let it happen. But when a certain choice starts making you lots of enemies, that's how you know you're probably on the right track.

Sooo, yeah, that's pretty much where my head's at right now. As sesq correctly pointed out, you can't just look at the game in terms of pure logic, but also gut too. And my gut's telling me that the cases people have right now for scum!wavemode are just bit too nitpicky and childish to all be legitimate town suspicion. I'm definitely getting pushback from scum right now, and that's giving me confidence that I'm right.

Your belief that scum are scumreading you because your scum read is right is likely confirmation bias.

Page 18

Almost no substance here, just bombcat fishing for masons again.

Page 19

Well apparently the thread has gone thoroughly off the rails and we've ended up on the moon.

[bombcat]

I would consider that to be jjh927 spam

[GameNBurger]

Stop.

Replying.

To.

Bombcat.

I mean it's better than silence from his end

Not much better but better

[GameNBurger]

Also 4 pages of stupid and people talking about mason reads
Like how does that even help town in the slightest what is wrong with any of you

Ughhhh

Jh don't get on his level if you're gonna lock horns with bombcat, I know I'm one to talk as I'm prone to that but idk if I learned anything useful from any of that

Movie about to start

[EchoVision]

zzzz 6 pages

[bombcat]

Also 4 pages of stupid and people talking about mason reads
Like how does that even help town in the slightest what is wrong with any of you

Ughhhh

Jh don't get on his level if you're gonna lock horns with bombcat, I know I'm one to talk as I'm prone to that but idk if I learned anything useful from any of that

Movie about to start

If you get a no good very bad town killed at night town's winning chances go up

[bombcat]

I believe that jh727 should hard claim and try to get me lynched and fail at getting me lynched and secure his night death

[bombcat]

Sesq I don't think I'm gonna get all the masons and all the mafia correctly can I do something else for the iPhone that isn't gonna make me feel dumb when this game ends

[Sesq]

well, just give it your best shot