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[nancy]

Twenty-ninth Votecount

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(First Votecount D3

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Formerfish - 2 (GreyICE, aronagrundy)

Not Voting - 7 (EeveeLution Army, Fro99er, ReplacedIn, iDanyboy, Mulch, Formerfish, massive)

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Day 3's deadline is Monday, July 31st, @ 09:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-01 00:01:10).

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• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  

[GreyICE]

I'm starting to think you might be scum here.

You'd be woefully wrong.

Strongly town read you for a

lot

of reasons, ranging from reading your interactions with me at several stages throughout the game as very genuine, thinking the way you'd presented the Tchill meta-comparison isn't something you would have done as mafia and think the speed at which it was done (~12 minutes from memory) is a very strong town tell. I also think setup-wise your role explains why my role is in the game to a large degree, don't think you'd do any of that "claim if roleblocked" or fake claim in the manner you did to 1 v 1 with FF at all. Found your stance and way you treated yesterday to be well and truly outside of yours and well anyones scum game (and this is coming from someone that has a lot of respect for your scum game). Also think the way you've handled Chickadee and her interactions with you are very obviously not W/W. Then there's the fact that you probably haven't worked out who I am but I'm someone that for the most part (Bar one really weird exception) is very good at reading and understanding you. So yeah, my confidence that you're town is pretty much 100% and something I could write an essay on if needed.

But why wasn't I roleblocked? I mean the options I see are:

1) The scum don't have a roleblocker

I mean I'd say it's impossible but I am not going to sit here and diagnose trash. This setup is incomprehensible already. It's failed fundamentally at one of the basics of being a normal game. Next to that not having a roleblocker is just... whatever.

2) The scum were going for a gambit

Basically they did roleblock me night 1 and want me to trust my FF result rather than see roleblocked pop up. I basically don't think so, because I didn't investigate a town read, and for a number of reasons.

3) They flat forgot to submit an action

I dunno, Fro99er/Massive+FF scumteam shenanigans. I'd have checked one of those two if I thought there was a snowballs chance in hell of a "no result" having any meaning whatsoever. As it is I'm happy to have a Dany = town result, whatever else happens they have to shoot him.

[GreyICE]

So...

Town

iDanyboy (mod confirmed trumps all)
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Eevee
Arona
Mulch
ReplacedIn
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massive
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FF

Scum

Fuck you

Fro99er: 6 posts from the SLOT over the course of the game. His only contribution is to go on VLA immediately after replacing in. Fuck this fucking slot it gets fucking lynched for this shit

[ReplacedIn]

I don't see you ever not being roleblocked if mafia have the ability to do so last night, mafia trading the potential for there to be a clear just to lock in a ML on FF seems idiotic since if he's town he's always a ML they're getting anyway. So no, think it's never a gambit or a "forgotten submission".

I think either mafia have no roleblocker or they've got a 1shot or odd night roleblocker with the 1shot being the least likely of the three. I think regardless we are realistically only lynching FF here today since the odds he's just mafia over mafia having exactly an odd night RB and them using it on you when you target town FF is just a lot of things that are unlikely to line up like that.

That said I really want to devote some time today to hopefully fully lock this in as a win. We technically have 4 shots here meaning 5 lock town reads is auto, I'm not far from that number. Really just want to reaffirm my town reads on Arona and Mulch and make sure I'm not wrong on either while seeing who is most likely scum in general.

Your Eve read is still the one I don't have or see.

[GreyICE]

He just hits the right notes. His annoyance at being left out of reads lists could be scum wondering how they're positioned, but reads more like confused town (lets face it we all are at least a bit curious). His snapping at people is well placed for annoyed town,

Although to be fair his criticism of me jumping on the MMM bandwagon being the only commentary on the MMM bandwagon is... okay, sure. That's really not good.

Let me think.

[GreyICE]

I might be starting to feel this.

[GreyICE]

VOTE: Mulch
Clearly trying to rush the town and we only just started!

VOTE: massive who the hell gives a reason for a meme vote

Same!
VOTE: Mulch

I like you lol

Holy shit, that's just like your second post and I already found something we both have in common! This game's gonna be good.

Mulch is practically conf. town just on this post

[GreyICE]

VOTE: LmkGuy

Okay full disclosure I really want it to be LMKGuy because then I can have a sensible explanation for what went on in that slot.

[GreyICE]

{iDanyBoy, Eeveelution Army, Formerfish}
{Mulch,

LmkGuy, aronagrundy, massive, MordyS

}
{gerryoat, Bomberman, Lil Uzi Vert, Tchill13}

MMM is a very brave man if he put is town reads as iDany, scum, scum.

Although how the fuck he forgot Mulch after all the effort he put to buddy Mulch like I don't know. This man was not playing good.

[EeveeLution Army]

One idea i had is probably gone unless somehow town has a roleblocker, which is incredibly unlikely. But is there ANY chance of there being a third party? Since we have some info now and a person who we will probably lynch, Could we do a little setup spec?

[GreyICE]

The only possible third party is serial killer.

If we have a serial killer who hasn't shot two nights running, sure. Lynch Fro99er, problem solved.

[ReplacedIn]

It's confirmed to be 10-3 thus no third parties;

This game is explicitly 10:3 town:mafia.

Grey, we can talk more about Eeve after I've had time to do the reading I want to do. Going to play this day phase a little slower.

Do agree that Mulch feels completely spewed town even ignoring the fact that I just don't see anything she's done coming from mafia anyway.

[EeveeLution Army]

Oh i missed that; man post 0 was such a long time ago
Idm going slower for today though..just lets not take three weeks

[ReplacedIn]

Idm going slower for today though..just lets not take three weeks

Oh, nothing like that. Just don't really want the night phase to be longer than the day phase which was almost the case of D2, probably happy to spend ~1 week going over things before throwing down a vote. You can speed that up by actually sharing your reads/thoughts/opinions if you're town though.

Like what does MMM flipping mafia do to your reads? Who does it make more likely town/why, who does it make more likely mafia/why?

What do you make of GreyICE confirming iDannyBoy as mafia and him not being roleblocked re; FF?

Who do you think is mafia in general/why?

Some thoughts and reads from you would be massively appreciated since they've been really lacking lately.

[EeveeLution Army]

Well excluding people who have claimed and the result and what not. My highest scumread is massive now that i'm looking at his ISO. To me he feels like hes trying to question things but then doesn't really do anything with the answers. It's kinda like what i do as bored townie but its more common as scum.

Idk what to do about fro99er i dont have enough info to have a pure read on him


Also i townread you just because of how you've started to organize town and calm down the chaos, scum would just let town run around confused.

[EeveeLution Army]

MMM's flip really doesn't idk add anything to me? I don't wanna get deep into any of MMM's wifom. The townread was mostly player meta which personally i hate and now i hate it more.

[Formerfish]

Hey grey what did you do last night

This reeks of scum pleased with themselves. Like Grey isn't going to come in here and say what he did last night you have to prod him 30 seconds into the day phase?

So what, you guys roleblock him night 1 (maybe you picked up a PR tell?), found out how lucky you guys got, and decided to block elsewhere last night (or deadslot could have neglected to submit an action) so that it would appear to implicate me further?

At this point I don't know if it's better for me to fight you all tooth and nail each day phase until we lynch scum like we did yesterday, or to fall on my sword so you guys can get over this tunneling.

[massive]

Honestly I don't know why people think I don't visit this site every day.

[Formerfish]

Honestly I don't know why people think I don't visit this site every day.

Probably because you get lost in the crowd when you have 43 posts out of 1850.

[iDanyboy]

What do you make of GreyICE confirming iDannyBoy as mafia and him not being roleblocked re; FF?

VOTE: FF

I think GreyIce is town.
ReplacedIn is a townlean for me.
Fro99er has been afk so no read on him.
Null on Mulch, I'm not town reading mulch because I don't think he has been scum hunting. I don't think you should be obvtowning him because he know how to do the same as scum.
aronagrundy, Voted FF over Chick so if FF is scum I think his tow.
EeveeLution Army/massive are my scum pool. Massive was to precise for his vote on MMM and scum don't normally get found day one without scum helping.

[Formerfish]

So everyone thinks that I spearheaded the lynch on Chick to just save myself for a day?

Fuck it, lynch me and then try to find your asses with both hands town.

[Formerfish]

And you vote me but your scum pool is massive and Eevee?

You don't even mention me in that post?

[massive]

It probably drives you nuts that you have to go from this:

I dislike Massive's vote, he calls out MMM for voting him for low post count but when others do it he has no problem.

to

Massive was to precise for his vote on MMM and scum don't normally get found day one without scum helping.

Like, it wasn't enough to throw shade on my scumhunting methods, now that you know I was right you gotta keep it up. Well done sir. Your confirmed townieness will surely be a boon to us all.

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Probably because you get lost in the crowd when you have 43 posts out of 1850.

It's signal to noise. Do you feel better about your read on Mulch who has 360 posts than you do about your read on me?

[iDanyboy]

And you vote me but your scum pool is massive and Eevee?

You don't even mention me in that post?

Because you have a guilty on you, there's not much to add to that.

[Formerfish]

Then why not push this yesterday?