Mini 1928 - Villain Mafia - GAME OVER

[TheFuzzylogic99]

confirmed town potato

[TheFuzzylogic99]

never trust a snowman especially a snarky one

vote snarky Snowman

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I am a bit worried about Fire calling for his death...... could be a trap

[TheFuzzylogic99]

part of me wants to lynch you to find out and the other part does not want to take that chance.
I don't see anything that makes you scum ..so I am holding off my vote.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Honestly you are not my time....anyways I doubt scum would try to commit Hari Kari
Almost feel likes bordering on going against your wincom ..... but whatever

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well Fire is at l-2

if we keep you alive you prob sink the town if we kill you might hurt the town
fine

Vote Fire

I think keeping you around will be worse than killing you .

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Fire is at l-1 now

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I have zero trust in Fire right now

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Don't worry about Fuzzy, Fire, I'm vigging him tonight.
Venge Raya.

this is so much kissing up....... I don't know what to do with this honestly

If Fuzzy dies tonight than TTH can be on my conftown list.
If not then we lynch them day two.
Sounds like a plan.

so when I flip town TTH will town

by the way I highly doubt TTH is a vig. If they are to they are town vig it dumb to vig a person night one. Than again as I said I doubt TTH is the town vig

I am not sure what Fire game here,,,,,, I still don't trust him. I don't think the town should trust them either,

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I am still oaky with lynching fire.... I cant see a good reason to keep him alive given his play so far

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Not sure how Rat being a hydra id important or not. Unless someone can tell us I think it is best we move on

[TheFuzzylogic99]

can you explain why you think this is bad?

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I am not sure what Fire game here,,,,,, I still don't trust him. I don't think the town should trust them either,

Why does this sound like you're not grouping yourself with town? "I don't trust him and town shouldn't either".

Just speaking as an individual member of the group. I didn't want to speak for the whole town . Prob could of worded it better, however I think you are reading too much into the wording.

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Since when was being awkward equal being scum...if that was the case I would be scum every game.
As far Fire goes I was and still a bit afraid Fire will suicide at a bad time and seek the town. I think this is a reasonable concern given he pushed himself to l-2 and was prob would of pushed to be at l-1
I rather of killed him now than wait well the town was almost at Lylo/Mylo and Fire tried this stunt
I have not lost as town this year and I plan to keep it that way.

TBF even though the pushes on me are totally wrong at least its pushing the town to scum hunt.

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edit/ sink the town.

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LATT
can you explain your town reads please

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there no reason to believe the masons are faking......I don't see scum faking a mason claim here. Faking a Mason claim is pretty hard plus very dangerous

Okay scum are jumping on and likely pushing my wagon. I highly doubt this is a town based wagon. If my play is bad I do not see it being that bad.
My wagon is terrible.......

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I am at l-3 if my count is correct, Honestly I thought I had more,,,,,,it felt like I was at l2 or less . Seeing the VC I think that its possible this could be a town lead wagon thouh I think it is still likely a scum is on my wagon

RR- Can you tell me why you are having bad vibes about the FB wagon. What about it did you not like
also why are you voting me as your vote is pretty much a naked vote on me

Treb
what makes my action scum motivated compared to RR

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I would not of voted FB if he wasn't egging people on to vote for him..... I read this as a possible threat to the town. I did not want to take a chance FB pulled this stunt if we were in dire straight and cost us the win.
Nothing I did was scummy. Maybe badly thought out but not scummy. To read scum motivation after all I have said is fuzzy thinking. Only I am allowed to have fuzzy thinking

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Considering all the talk and suspicion towards this slot, the lack of wagon formation is surprising.

VOTE: FUZZY

*EBWOP: Sorry just noticed they were correcting binsbulge. I take it back, if they mention it twice more they are probably scum.

Antitown's vocal patterns are extremely formal and rigid and it feels like they're trying to project a false image of confidence.

I feel like his vocal patterns would be more natural if he were town because right now it feels like he has to force every word through.

VOTE: Antitown

I feel if your vocal patterns were town, you would be voting for fuzzy.

there no reason to believe the masons are faking......I don't see scum faking a mason claim here. Faking a Mason claim is pretty hard plus very dangerous

Okay scum are jumping on and likely pushing my wagon. I highly doubt this is a town based wagon. If my play is bad I do not see it being that bad.
My wagon is terrible.......

Kill this with fire.

p.s. Vote Fuzzy havingfitz please, thank you!

Why would pony need to "make excuses" now and why is she scum?

Who is pony?

I'm assuming whatever's in Carcalilly's avy is a pony.

Thanks.

VOTE: Carcalilly
Didn't care for her L-2 vote on RR when she "thought" he was a hydra containing RC and when she realized it wasn't a hydra with RC she unvoted without looking to vote the actual hydra with RC.

She is scum too but can we focus on Fuzzy first? I'll give you Carcalilly tomorrow if she is still alive then.

*EBWOP: Sorry just noticed they were correcting binsbulge. I take it back, if they mention it twice more they are probably scum.

Antitown's vocal patterns are extremely formal and rigid and it feels like they're trying to project a false image of confidence.

I feel like his vocal patterns would be more natural if he were town because right now it feels like he has to force every word through.

VOTE: Antitown

VOTE: antitown

What about that post made you believe I am scum?

I just felt like sheeping treble

I forgot to mention that I found this reasoning hilarious considering where Treblesome's vote is.

Pushing a wagon ......without every giving a reason. Either this is scum or a bad sheeper.
You need to state your case on me.

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and no post 138 is not a case......

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waiting on Anti to respond.......

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I mean I think that he's

dumb

but I think that he can be both

dumb

and smart enough to realize how he's interpreted and play up certain things.

Who would you prefer we be voting right now?

I think I might be insulted

[TheFuzzylogic99]

also

unvote

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so what was your purpose of getting yourself lynched when it was more likely than not that you would of taken a townie maybe a few with you....... This is just anti-town in my opinion.
That's why I voted for you...bc I did not think you were trying to help the town, You seem to have your own agenda not aligned with the town.

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I think your vengeful role is bull....... I don't know what your end goal but it doesn't seem town

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@ Fire
I know , and if I remember right you suicided in one game and hurt the town.

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Tell Tale
it was policy lynch based on the concern that Fire might implode later in the game which could hurt the town. When he did what he did he was not necessarily a threat to town however later on he could be, He seemed a chaotic element in the game
It seems that it would be best to get rid that possibility early on before it could hurt the town. At best my vote would kick Fire in the butt and cause him to play less chaotic at worse we would get rid of a player that could hurt the town later on.
I took a gamble.

BTW if Fire is vengeful there always a chance scum has a RB that could neutralize him. I tried a gambit once to get myself night killed as a vengeful but was RB . There is that possibility here assuming he really is a vengeful. I don't understand his motivation for his action neither has he done or said anything to make me to understand why he did what he did. . Nor is there a reason to believe that he vengeful

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Anti
are you going to post anything useful or are you just going to avoid contributing like you have all game

Fire
When you mentioned the fake mason claim I had flashback. I think I was in that game when RC and you did that,
( I am pretty sure Fire is telling the truth about that)

Treble
there are a lot of townies trying to solve this game. Please stop this ego trip and help us catch scum.
You are not helping by whining and than threatening to rage quit

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Steel
the chance of Fire being a Jester is almost zero. I been here a while have not seen a jester used yet. Jesters are a role nobody uses . It is very very very unlikely it would be used here. I been in a few games where a player tried to kill themselves for no good reason.... Either they got bored of the game or they thought it would be funny etc. I thought that was the case . looking back I misread the whole situation badly. if you think I am scum than fine. I respect your decision though you are wrong.
Your post about Anti having the best entrance makes me scratch my head, Anti town enterence was meh at best. He basically said that bc there is talk about me I should be wagoned. , How was this a good entrance on any level. So far he has done zero . Why are you defending Anti when there is no need to, I am confused

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Steel
the chance of Fire being a Jester is almost zero. I been here a while have not seen a jester used yet. Jesters are a role nobody uses . It is very very very unlikely it would be used here. I been in a few games where a player tried to kill themselves for no good reason.... Either they got bored of the game or they thought it would be funny etc. I thought that was the case . looking back I misread the whole situation badly. if you think I am scum than fine. I respect your decision though you are wrong.
Your post about Anti having the best entrance makes me scratch my head, Anti town enterence was meh at best. He basically said that bc there is talk about me I should be wagoned. , How was this a good entrance on any level. So far he has done zero . Why are you defending Anti when there is no need to, I am confused

Yeah, I have since seen the post about jesters not being allowed in non bastard games.

Can you tell me how you think firebringer would want to have himself lynched as a trap though? The closest scum motivation I could think of, would be if it was a bluff to get towncred, nothing else really comes to mind.

As for antitown, people were fluffing and messing around and things were stalling there, and he comes in and says what I thought reading and puts the game back on focus. The other entrances were very forgettable.

As I said I think I misread the situation. I applied a belief that did not fit the situation. I disagree with you on Anti. Kinda seem like he was just trying to jump on a likely wagon without backing up why I was scum

I like your posts so far steel, my only problem is I have nothing to actually dig deeper with you on, it all seems self explanatory. Props on that btw.

On my whole fuzzy thing I think and this is bad but I think his vote on me was a "too scummy to be scum" as terrible as that is.
Fuzzy doesn't seem to have nerve for quick day I don't think as scum and definitely not in manner he did.

Not sure what I would do as scum in that situation but putting Fire at l-1 seems like it would be outside my normal MO

I will look at villain and see what I think

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can we stop linking player together as scum before we actually flip scum. We are asking to mislynch if we continue

I ma totally confused by Carcalily scumread on Fire. Please explain
I don't see nay good reason to scum read Mad. The reasoning seem weak at best/

Anti vote on me is bad. I asked several times why I am scum and he keeps skirting answering and keep pushing my wagon. Fritz feels like he could just be jumping on. I would like Fritz to explain why I am scum
I disagree with RR vote on me but it seems like it coming from a sincere place. Not sure if Anti is tunneling me or is scum or something else. The same thing with Fritz

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Can someone explain the Fire wagon bc I am not getting it. I know I am prob being dense but I don't care

Fire
I had the same issue when my wagon was going. It seems more than it is.

Steel
Association without a flip is terrible. If Tramp flips scum than please lynch me as well/

Treble
If I remember right RC is almost always easily hurt. They seem to be very sensitive in nature.

Lady
Can you explain why you decided to vote Fire over me. Seems like an old choice given you seem to think I am more likely scum than Fire

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Also my avatar and Vons avatar def needs to have a dance off.....just saying

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Hey, Apricity here I was at orientation. I'm following RC on Fire but I also don't like Snarky or Raya/Scorp rn. Or Carca but we need to talk that one out some more.

Also TTH you bullied RC and now he's sad

can you explain what you don't like about Snarky or Raya. I don't remember either one being particularly active this game.

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If it's true it should get backed up by either tramp or villain.

Can we lynch fuzzy now?

the answer is No..stop trying to lynch townies

Also, I feel like this should be claimed since the mason situation has dominated some of the discussion:

Myself, Lady and the Tramp, and Madvillains belong to a neighbourhood whereby at day 3 the amount of living scum in the neighbourhood will be confirmed.

We're not lynching in the 3 of us until we know whether or not the group contains any scum.

I am guessing there is atleast one .......especially if there is a masonizer in play. Other wise the game would be two anti scum.

There's scum in the neighborhood.
And it's Madvillain.

But it's a situation that resolves itself. UNVOTE:

Of course, this does mean protectives need to be on Lady and Treblesome.

Agree that there likely scum..not sure if it is Mad though

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edit
too anti scum

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I am not sure......... I am open to any one of them being scum. Is there any reason you believe Mad is the scum in the neighborhood.

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I am not sure......... I am open to any one of them being scum. Is there any reason you believe Mad is the scum in the neighborhood.

POE, mostly. I like Treblesome, and L&T's role implies Town.

Granted, it's a moot point until D3, but it doesn't sit right with me that you want to cast suspicion over the hood, but don't actually have anyone in mind.

Also my avatar and Vons avatar def needs to have a dance off.....just saying

ISO just the two of you. It's quite entertaining.

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RR
Its not me throwing suspicion over the hood. Logic seems to point to there being scum there but I rather wait till day to be sure. I think its a bit too early to POE here, so if there is scum as I believe I want more time to figure things out

Fitz
Von is scared bc a dancing ADD? ADHD tiger can beat a dancing skeleton any day of the week

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TTH and Madvillain need to take a break.

I believe in the masonry. We need to lynch Fuzzy so we can hit D3 as soon as possible and win.

lynching me wont get you to day three faster. I am very confused on your logic. Honestly I think you are just tunneling

Fine, because I'm not even trying to be a part of the club. And I refuse to be used as a pawn..

I'm Pennywise, I am town. I am a 1 shot ultra delayed pseudo strongman vig..

Find another sucker..and tell me i made that up.

why are you claiming ? Unless you were given a fake role this sound legit. I don't see any player making this role of the top of their head.

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@ Scorpio
were you given number ..you know x days X hours etc?

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I would prefer not to share that part at least.

More than one night, is that satisfactory?

yes... just wondering if you were given a number of days or the wording was ambiguous

I believe your claim however that doesn't mean you could be scum vig,

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Yeah, this isn't a town win.
Scorpious claims to have an unroleblockable vig: let's leash the shot onto someone. If we do that with the stipulation that he gets lynched if he doesn't make the shot as we have said, I'm willing to vote elsewhere else.

I don't think that Antitown is scum. Can we vote Snarky?

First thing's first.

SnarkySnowman
SnarkySnowman
SnarkySnowman

And now... they should appear.

Ok I'm here and gonna read

I don't know if I should be amazed ot terrified that worked

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Fritz and Snarky are on the same boat. they have done nothing. I have not seen anything in particular that makes me think they are town or scum. If there is a word that describe being beyond null I think that they would fit into that.
Can anyone explain why Snarky or Fritz or scummy bc I am not getting it, TBF i hoping that Snarky never comes back and we get a replacement. A frozen vegetable is more active than he is/ I have nothing personal against The Snowman but his
lurking is not helping

I see either there being either 1 or zero scum in the neighborhood. Logically nothing else makes sense, I personal believe it is one bc of balance.

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so them being lazy = scum. I want to understand you right

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Still not seing Fritz as scum and the two post you cited did not come off as particular scummy
ATM I have zero reason to vote Fritz.

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It's still somewhat a red flag for me that fuzzylogic is impossible to lynch

but the townreads on him are sort of just feels based and not strong enough to warrant people sheeping, maybe it is approaching tunneling now but I

do feel if he was town he would be mislynched if that makes sense

. I'll examine the others in more detail but I don't feel any of the other pushes were done with really much conviction behind them. To clarify, the stances themselves aren't bad and scum are unlikely to directly defend anyways I believe, but where things like that might usually be ignored here they are major forces influencing the wagons.

Regarding scorpious he very likely does have that shot he claimed regardless of alignment, but forcing him to use it as specified doesn't work to my mind. Either we don't lynch him today and leave the choice up to him, though we may suggest it, or we lynch him now and don't let him take any shot. I highly doubt if he's scum he would shoot a partner even if we forced him to, more likely he lie and would aim for town then eat the mislynch days later to my mind, and that's in the best case scenario where we do choose scum to force him onto. If it's a town target and he shoots it that tells us nothing about him beyond the role, and at least if he chooses a shot that's him committing to something and we can judge that instead of a forced move.

Although that assumes scum vig is a plausible role, in a normal game I think it usually has to be town for balance but the setup nature is strange again here. Can I get multiple quotes on percent likelyhood of scum vigilante in a game? If I were to judge him completely removed of claim I would easily lynch him here 2nd to fuzzy, I haven't seen any scumhunting from him since replacing and if anything he seems to have drifted since the pressure was let off him for his claim. At least snarky has attested to meta for his play here being null.

On another note I think in a game as this with the claimed neighborhood late reveal and potential masoniser it may in fact be preferable to avoid having extra kills via vig or vengeful if given the option, as a long term grinding out days approach might work better with those mechanics.

These make me go huh.... So much wrong with these statement I don't know where to start...... Also no comment on Fire or Fritz who are close to being lynched,
What are your thoughts on the Fritz wagon ????

[TheFuzzylogic99]

SnarkySnowman has accumulated 3 prods and is being replaced

Sorry Snark by your lurking was bring the game down

CommKnight replaces SnarkySnowman! Thanks!

welcome common

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I was thinking Fire had more votes,,,,,,,

So yes it looks like its fritz or me........ I am a mislync.. I am still iffy on Fritz. I think that scum has two mislynches set up/ Could be wrong

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Doesn't shooting Madvillain negate the purpose of your D3 neighborhood alignment thingy?
Unless you mean save the shot for after that, but even so lynching seems like the better option there.

agreed.....

I have a strange feeling that one scum is either inactive and or lurking/ This is just gut feeling
I think there likely one scum on my wagon and one on Fritz.

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yeah having a neighborhood and than a masonizer seems odd.

Lady could be a third party masonizer

Am i being crazy here or given we already have a neighborhood lady could be a vampire/ werewolf mason. I think I am just over thinking this given the size of the game

[TheFuzzylogic99]

vote lady

i dont want to to lynch Scorpio at this moment..he could still be helpful to town
I am not sold on Fritz

Maybe I am being stupid here,,,,, a possibility not beyond the realm of likelyhood.......but given the claim I am not sure Lady is town .
Either a fake claim or more likely a third party that could be anti town

[TheFuzzylogic99]

unvote

vote Fuzzy

bc I am getting mislynched no matter what at this point so I kinda dont give a care............................

[TheFuzzylogic99]

so yeah I would be surprised if there is not at least 1 scum on my wagon ........and also if scum is not pushing my wagon forward. It was a bad wagon that should of died a while back and didi not

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4h and yeah

i'll vote fuzzy at deadline for sure

just would have preferred not

why the heck would you vote me if you are pretty sure I am town.... but whatever

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Having a frustrating day in RL

anyways not going to let scum get an easy mislynch.......if they want to mislynch this than you have to work for it

Unvote

btw I am Magneto town Voyeur

I am going to be here during deadline //////

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Not going to be here for deadline......hoping I would not have to claim but since there is a chance of me being mislynched and me being MIA at deadline due to RL stuff I decided to claim.

just in case I get lynched and i am not back
Good luck Town and GO TOWN!!!!!!!!!!