Micro 720: Pokémon episode 7 GAME OVER

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Little Haiku for you all:

The eternity.
Finally the game began.
What will happen next?

Also haaiii wisdam long time no see

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Jesus christ this is always the most boring part.

Prelim info directed @:
Happy birthday

wisdom

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Gamma

, de-evolve into a magikarp right now god dammit.

Beeboy

, are you a trap or naw?

Game info:

Anyone have any pregame info that would be relevant?
Who here likes cats? Cats are better than bees

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A trap is a male with extremely effeminate qualities that makes one think that they are female, but in fact, they are not

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Conf town. Nextttt

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VOTE: Javajoe

Can't argue with 2 conf towns

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Then hammer and GG

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Other than the fact that it's made up from rvs and no real serious thought went into his wagon at all?

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Other than the fact that it's made up from rvs and no real serious thought went into his wagon at all?

You dislike the wagon?

You kidding? I love wagons. I'm on the wagon

VOTE: bbt

java can be town

Good vote

Why can't I get attention? Am I not interesting enough for you guys?

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VOTE: theslimer

Purrrrr!

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Umm... Soooooo, did anyone else watch the episode?

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Would asking everyone to mass claim their character suck the fun out of the game? Because I don't know where the line crosses between being a detective and losing character to look at the ending credits to get a clue of who the murder mystery is going to feature

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I've thought of that and I think that might not be as much of a problem as you would think. For anyone who's seen the episode, perhaps there's characters that are conftown

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Why?

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yeah, even main characters could be fakeclaims

The most likely not to be fakeclaims are ash's pokemon, but those are also likely PRs so them claiming is not a good idea

I'd rather drink neither of those glasses

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You kidding? I love wagons. I'm on the wagon

Then why did you try to discredit and play down what was obviously a RVS wagon before the person being wagoned has a chance to respond?

Is disliking rvs the same as disliking a wagon?

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Is disliking rvs the same as disliking a wagon?

You answered my question with a question.

I'll give you one more chance to try and answer it.

or what? You're gonna vote me too?

Sometimes has still done nothing but try to look town

Slimer*

is my town swag that great that I protrude it without even trying? Typically I like attention. Normally that means looking slightly scummy, but at least it draws players to me

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Where are you trying to look for scum right now

I dunno. I'm keeping my eyes on BBT right now. He seems to be searching for a reason to find someone to be scummy rather than finding out if someone is or not. Could just be RQS hijinks though

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It doesn't matter whether he knows it's RVS or not - people have been hammered on page 1 before and nobody likes that to happen to them.

Who the hell would ever do something like that??

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Where are you trying to look for scum right now

I dunno. I'm keeping my eyes on BBT right now. He seems to be searching for a reason to find someone to be scummy rather than finding out if someone is or not. Could just be RQS hijinks though

What do you think of guilty's questioning of him? And why didn't you have any questions of your own?

Out of all his posts here, only 1 isn't related to BBT.
As far as what he's saying, I don't think they're alignment indicative. I wouldn't have came to the same conclusions he has either.

As far as my own questions, other than provoking him I'm not quite sure what to say. I'm just a bit captivated by their conversation. Although I will say if either guilty or BBT flips scum, it's likely the other are. Just due to the focus guilty seems to be putting on just BBT, even if it is the only thing going on that isn't playful banter

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He seems to be searching for a reason to find someone to be scummy rather than finding out if someone is or not.

can you elaborate on this

Other than his initial questioning being weak and directing towards conclusions that seem a bit absurd?
I'm saying that rvs is wacky not that we should abolish it, not that his wagon wasn't supposed to get any info, and not that he could get hammered quickly.

But I think town would want to find the reasoning behind what I said there, not jump to thier own conclusions. Or am Is this a newbie and I wasn't aware?

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thats shallow

Lots of people deathtunnel, doesnt mean theyre buddies

Doesn't dismiss the idea entirely, however

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You sure seem motivated this game

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Woah woah woah where did my attention go? Youre not done with me yet

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VOTE: beeboy

I'll come back to slimer, I'm seeing a lack of drive here.

forget

you

Also what's up with beeboy? See some potential scum in him?

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Infinity youre not you anymore with this avi :/

Do you even, like, have any reads on anyone or anything?

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See idk if I think he is town anymore. I thought his NM town read was super bad which and he wouldn't have such a read as scum.
Then I thought my question on 65 had a really obvious answer of "yes thats a legit read" and he also never told me if it was a pun or not so idk.

I want to say it isn't a pun and he is town but I am still thinking about it.

Yeah I guess this is some pretty bad circular logic here

I'm not too fond of turning a joke/outside opinion into a scum read *cough cough*BBT*cough cough*

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Never fear, Vedith is here!

I'm at games night tonight so I'll catch up tomorrow morning.

You could honestly start from here and no one would complain. I certainly wouldn't. But since you are, what's your thoughts on town BBT, Town Guilty Lion, Town NM, and

I lost motivation in asking that. Fuck it just say anything to make this game interesting. CLAIM SCUM, VOTE ME, DO SOMETHING DAMMIT

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Fuck it just say anything to make this game interesting. CLAIM SCUM, VOTE ME, DO SOMETHING DAMMIT

THIS GOES TO ALL OF YOU. BRING ME TO LIFE

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Faking boredom. Gg

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What on Earth would be the point of faking boredom? So that people will think I'm town for not starting my own drama or something?

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VOTE: Vedith
Wouldn't it be funny if he walked into l-1?

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I'm here

VOTE: theslimer
Tell me why I shouldn't

Beeboy is probably town. BBT, tell me otherwise.
But I think BBT is just town tunneled.

I don't really like beeboy's easy townread on Wisdom
VOTE: beeboy

Beeboy normally gives town reads on faces he knows. And normally gets pulled up for it from what I remember.

slimer is town i think
Infinity not so much

Why?

Infinity - Can we be best friends this game?

And I'm never going to pretend to read NM.

I literally told you to do so actually.

And what's the difference between a tunneling town and a tunneling scum?

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Hmm. I never thought of that before. But I'm still pretty tied to bbt. The closest thing to leaning scum I have so far

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I don't have any other reasons. Or reads. This game is staggeringly slow to me. And it hurts more because I have more time to talk on it now than I will later in the future

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Leaning. There's not enough evidence so I'm treating it as though it's isolated due to behavior. He could be bussing but until I get a stronger read, I'm just watching his interactions and such. If he turns out to be scum though I am fully in favor of a beetrap lynch

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Leaning. There's not enough evidence so I'm treating it as though it's isolated due to behavior. He could be bussing but until I get a stronger read, I'm just watching his interactions and such. If he turns out to be scum though I am fully in favor of a beetrap lynch

?

You could at least say what you didn't understand. And if it was all of it then what?

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But I'm still pretty tied to bbt. The closest thing to leaning scum I have so far

how come you haven't been pushing/voting him then?

I suppose a lack of conviction. I'll admit that I am playing things internally but I guess it's because I'm not a very aggressive person so early in.
When guilty was questioning him I felt satisfied. But I never did get a satisfied "he's def scum, he's def town" just yet. I kinda can't do that like you guys do. I have to play at my own pace. See if he slips up or does something I like. Keep an eye on him. However you're right, I will try to ask more questions instead of stay on the sidelines keeping to myself

You could at least say what you didn't understand. And if it was all of it then what?

Words are hard!
I didn't understand the end. If BBT flips scum, you would be up for lynching Beeboy?

Ah, basically saying if BBT is scum then I'll see his actions on beeboy as tunneling. Otherwise unless I'm convinced that he is scum, beeboy is practically null to me. I think.

Then why did you try to discredit and play down what was obviously a RVS wagon before the person being wagoned has a chance to respond?

I'm saying that rvs is wacky not that we should abolish it, not that his wagon wasn't supposed to get any info, and not that he could get hammered quickly.

Additionally: I was attacking RVs. If you want to meta me, I'm sure you'll find me not participating in rvs as well in my other games. There may be one or 2 that I do, but normally I just don't care or like it.

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Ah, basically saying if BBT is scum then I'll see his actions on beeboy as tunneling. Otherwise unless I'm convinced that he is scum, beeboy is practically null to me. I think.

I'm still unclear. How can BBT be tunneling Beeboy, and if flipped scum, then Beeboy is only null?

I think you're missing the fact that I said otherwise there. Currently tunneling, yes. And I didn't like how focused he was on Beeboy. I saw this as possibly bussing though, and that would be my only conviction of beeboy. Because otherwise, I have no town or scum read on him currently.

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You used to be more insightful than this

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I mean show me yours and beeboys game.

I like you

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Why didn't you mention that earlier?

I don't like this. You're asking why didn't he mention it earlier like this was some sort of revelation. We all could have used before and was vital for him to bring up in the past. He brought it up now where it's more relevant since more people are talking and he's not. Why be so harsh toward his time for bringing it up now?

Thought I had posted in here, my bad.

I'll look into this later tonight/tomorrow night. I'm happy with Wisdom's read on Java being town though, that makes sense to me.

Guess we all waiting for Beeboy?

I could lynch NM.

Why you so eager for lynches? What did NM do to you?

I dont like infinity

Why arent you being... wisdom. You're playing like you don't want to be here

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I don't like this. You're asking why didn't he mention it earlier like this was some sort of revelation. We all could have used before and was vital for him to bring up in the past. He brought it up now where it's more relevant since more people are talking and he's not. Why be so harsh toward his time for bringing it up now?

If the argument was really about lurking, I would see what you mean. It's possible I'm wrong and it is, but that would be silly because lurking even as a meta argument is dumb. Obviously RL plays a big part. I think the argument is about beeboy's presence in and engagement with the game, which was easy to notice when java was posting a couple pages ago. It's suspicious for me that he waited until now to bring it up--it seems like he was considering whether to out his reasoning because he wasn't sure he wanted to push the beeboy wagon, among other possible reasons.

Hmm I see what you mean. Trying to find a reason for the lynch I guess. He is at L-1 and that would help push over the edge if BB doesn't defend himself properly (or even if he does, he kind of has an excuse to lynch anyway)

Another thing I noticed was he played "games" Where Beeboy was lurking and he only provided 1 example of a game that Bee was in, seeming to exaggerate the situation a bit more than needed

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I personally would rather anyone over wisdom today. He doesn't normally act like this as scum or town. Albiet I've only played one game where he was scum and that was such a long time ago.
I just want him to wake up

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VOTE: Infinity

Intent to hammer

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intent to hammer

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How the hell do you guys have reads already

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Vote him or you're day 2's lynch

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thats a shitty reason to push beeboy for when hes like that sitewide

I think the amount of presence felt in the thread when beeboy posts in his other ongoing games is not a topic we should be discussing

this is deflection. The fact of the matter is the idea that Beeboy is not around anywhere, not just here. Talking about ongoing games are indeed taboo, but using that to your advantage to not answer the question isn't just mafia-scummy, it's a scumbag move in general

Can someone town case wisdom for me / tell me why he can't be lynched.

I don't really have a town read on him. I guess I can say I selfishly want him around for at least till day 2 so that he can be the usual cold hearted analytical player I'm used to. But I'm starting to realize that might not happen

But I also don't quite see the cases you all have on him so I'm not particularly fond of being lynched either way it goes

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No, I like Vedith wisdom and beeboy. Let's do guilty or Infinity

I have less sympathy for them

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Possible scum for that reason actually. I don't have any solid reads, I'm grasping on to possibilities here

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Why would you expect me to have everything figured out when you don't yourself

Wouldn't someone who's scum be more inclined to "know" something before anyone else would technically?

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Give me a good reason to vote someone. I'm just gonna sheep today. Maybe tomorrow will be better. Maybe there's some TvT arguments going on, but it'd be easier to tell who's scum once one of them goes down. Or the off chance that town is lynched. Even that would give me something to go on

I'm just not feeling this day unfortunately

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And if this mindset just makes me seem suspicious for day 2 then so be it. I'm known to be scumbait anyway so fite me bro

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>.> I suppose I take your empathy as also a townie thought

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Give me a good reason to vote someone. I'm just gonna sheep today. Maybe tomorrow will be better. Maybe there's some TvT arguments going on, but it'd be easier to tell who's scum once one of them goes down. Or the off chance that town is lynched. Even that would give me something to go on

I'm just not feeling this day unfortunately

2 days until deadline. Let's just lynch beeboy

bleh

VOTE: beeboy

Anyone but these two or Videth?

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And Javajoe. Gonna have to say that I like him more too since what he said earlier

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I hate all of you

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Me and Java are sheeping whoever can tell us is the most plausable lynch

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Makes sense. Out of the remaining people there's at least a case on them. To make as scum

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Oh thanks for reminding me

Wisom what do you say to beeboy being town after how adamantly you thought he was scum?

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VOTE: Slimer

I just iso'd you, what's with your vote in me?

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How so

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Okay, so my gut said if you were town, you would probably feel remorse for that and probably try to switch things up in order to try to find leads up into who is scum.
If you were scum then... well basically you'd do just that and try to lynch the next person you can get a hold of without a hint of care..

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Okay then tell me why. You see I haven't voted you yet so it's not a solidified thought. But if you're going to be so agressively denail about it with no explanation or anything then now I'm thinking why shouldn't I vote you?

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VOTE: Slimer

VOTE: Slimer

I'm at l-1 actually so don't scare me like that.

And @vedith
Are you in a scum team with wisdom?

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Don't avoid the question

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Yes thanks VOTE: wisdom

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Nope. Wisdom's the lynch for today. And when he flips you'll be next

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Says the guy who couldn't wait 13 minutes for a reply on a forum

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It could also end in 2 billion years

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I want wisdom before you. Just so that you can be an easier lynch

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Geesh you're fun

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Alright fine.
VOTE: Vedith

In the mean time who has questions or anything. This game is currently kinda dead

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i have half a mind to hammer you

Can you explain the vedith/me thing?

Slimer, what do you think of java?

@wis: I unno. A feeeeling

@inf: I think he's about to replace out. And I'm not noob town

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Give me a good reason to vote someone. I'm just gonna sheep today. Maybe tomorrow will be better. Maybe there's some TvT arguments going on, but it'd be easier to tell who's scum once one of them goes down. Or the off chance that town is lynched. Even that would give me something to go on

I'm just not feeling this day unfortunately

This was said pretty much around the end of the day. If something changed then you'd be able to tell. He decided to sheep with me and I still find him a bit town since then but the guy literally made 2 posts on day 2 and neither of them have been related to the game at hand. I am worried about him though but I'm sure that's irrelevant.
Why do you ask out of someone like NM or BBT? People I haven't really interacted with for a while but have at least had something to say about day 1. It just kinda seems like you just wanted to ask me a question rather than get information from me.

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Yeah why is that? What makes you think he's scum?

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Wasn't the same thing said by Java about beeboy?

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Erm.. I guess?

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Announcing V/LA until Tuesday

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OKay I'll switch

VOTE: slimer

Lynching Slimer sounds swell.

Both of you are just putting so much effort into this game

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What is thy case on both fellows?

Apparently I said words which is grounds for a lynch it seems

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I've been working a lot lately and have been pretty tired. I've tried to make a big post but every time I sit on my laptop I immediately feel tired and just go to bed. However here's synopsises of what I've been thinking lately (phone post)

Wisdom doesn't give a fuck. Just wants to lynch. Referenced from him basically intending to hammer me and already on Vedith wagon. I'm certain he's scum.

N_m is just annoying right now. If he's town he's clearly not being serious right now and it's fustrating.

Vedith is some discount Kuribo that decided that hed power lynch anyone and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually is scum right now. He doesn't seem to be trying to see if anyone's town really and his involvement with me is questionably mental.

BBT he seems to be the only one here trying despite some of his interesting points that he's coming up with

The fact you missed the sarcasm makes me think you're probably scum as scum tend to miss the tone of posts a lot more than town. 

By the way, it's the internet, sarcasm isn't an easy time to pick up on.

I actually liked guilty. He was insightful and questioning things. Obviously not alignment indicative, but compared to all the other people here in the game I couldn't honestly do with him more than the others. Honestly a shame that he left, but Steel doesn't seem to be as bad to be honest coming in and not being a total dick like 3 other players I know of.

Also inf, gut just just said he was town. Not much to say on that I guess. I've already mentioned why, but I'd be glad to requote myself if you don't believe me.

At this point fuck it. I know wisdom's scum so I'm sticking my vote back there and that's the end of it. We'll see it Vedith is scum if wisdom is. Maybe N_M at some other point. If you want to ask me any questions go ahead, though they may be short in response.

I thought it would be cool to play with an old friend I'm an otherwise enjoyable game but this is just annoying to have this many players like this

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For the love of God lynch wisdom day 3

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If you're town Wis I don't even know what to say. Part of the reason I came back to this site was to see you again

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If you're town Wis I don't even know what to say. Part of the reason I came back to this site was to see you again

sorry buddy, dont tunnel on me for no reason next time
you kept going "wisdom is scum" with no explanation other than "hes not playing like he used to" and that was the main reason my read on you changed

Isn't that your whole playstyle?

That is basically what I want to say in defense of this.

Why arent you being... wisdom. You're playing like you don't want to be here

I personally would rather anyone over wisdom today. He doesn't normally act like this as scum or town. Albiet I've only played one game where he was scum and that was such a long time ago.
I just want him to wake up

I thought it would be cool to play with an old friend I'm an otherwise enjoyable game but this is just annoying to have this many players like this

And these are the only 3 references to me talking about the old wisdom. 2 are from day 1, and the last one is after the replacement and your basic indifference of a lynch for day 2.

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my scumread wasn't at all based on your meta. In fact, I basically flat out said that it wasn't either scum or town wisdom. So that was a pretty crappy reason even in defense of thinking i'm scum

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Also yes, i was softclaiming cop. Anyone notice that or was I too subtle? Or not believeable? I just wanted to draw the night kill so someone could investigate and get a conf townie. Its clear that there's an officer jenny cop here. I think. Maybe. Anywho. Bah. Or whatever. Greeeeeat game goin on here



p.edit: Would be nice if you share with the rest of the class every once in a while

p.p. edit My train of thought was basically that you're only after a lynch. Which is why I asked you about your beeboy wagoning and your absolutely wonderful response of "Yea that's just what I do, don't worry about it"

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I demand a regame and that we all play this exact same setup again using the same roles >.>