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Post Post #963 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:23 am

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Hey guys! It's been a while
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Post Post #964 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:27 am

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In post 20, notsure wrote:And it begins!

So glad I got Town. :lol:
So who didn't get town? No one? :lol:
the cringe oh ouch that stings
So.. I read the first couple of pages and I think notsure is scum.
VOTE: waffles
ISO'd the replacement too and other than pile on on the hot mess that is gamma emerald, all waffles has done so far is make filler posts
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Post Post #967 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am

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Well I'm a bit rusty, but waffles is a newbie according to joindate, and if they're scum like I think they are, i think waffles was parking a vote on tomorrow's mislynch, coz I don't see a reason why they wouldn't add a vote on the nm other than wanting to distance themselves from todays mislynch(this "we still got 3 days!!" Bullshit is scummy. Also their stalling of the nm wagon and puat on my slot feel very halfassed). I could be wrong on nm being a mislynch but anyway i feel my vote is in the right place. So join me :D
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Post Post #968 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am

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The nm wagon*
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Post Post #969 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am

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Push* on my slot
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Post Post #972 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:19 am

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In post 970, Nero Cain wrote:Kanksa
The what now
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Post Post #973 (isolation #6) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:21 am

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Hey
Hey nerocain
I don't remember you being so wishywashy hmmm
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Post Post #975 (isolation #7) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:27 am

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I skimmed nerocains ISO and has been wishywashy about everything so far...whenever pressed for reads, nerocains like " I don't know could be scumz could be town idk"
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Post Post #976 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 974, Nero Cain wrote:I'm always wishwashy.
No from what i remember you always have this one scumread ure stubborn as a mule about
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Post Post #978 (isolation #9) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:31 am

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No
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Post Post #980 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:39 am

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No pretty sure my impression of you is annoyingly stubborn about reads
But this isn't about meta anyway, you still don't have any real reads at this point and that's suspicious
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Post Post #982 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:47 am

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Sure
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Post Post #983 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:50 am

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Well gotta go guyz
Waffles is a better place to vote than nm I think
And a nerocain wagon wouldn't be bad either,
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Post Post #999 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:23 am

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hey
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waffles mc scumpants

stop ignoring my existence. "i agree with him that gamma should be lynched" well gamma's no longer here and im his replacement and so you will be lynching me. i said some stuff about you, dont you have anything to say about that?
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:24 am

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In post 984, Nero Cain wrote:you know that waffles was my first scum read yes? Like it just feels really disingenuous that you knew I was calling Sling scum and that I was right but also trying to push me. Like its really convoluted.
dont care
im taling about your latest posts not your early reads
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:27 am

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too afraid to even address the person currently in the slot
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 1008, MuttonChopMagic wrote:im not adraid of u
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i didnt even quote u there

but go on...sling town because?
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:43 am

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you want me to believe you're not even reading the posts from the slot you want lynched? im not buying that
i've only been here a couple of pages and you know where the iso button is
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:29 am

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In post 1025, SlingshotWaffles wrote:Nope. Still want that lynch.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:35 am

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In post 1027, SlingshotWaffles wrote:And why might that be?
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #20) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:51 am

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one more look at your iso
u were useless until gamma subbed out, after which you made a convenient vote and kept peddling on your vacuous "gammas scummy" oneliner as cop out from doing anything useful
so i replace in and say stuff, but instead of engage me, you avoid me

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Post Post #1036 (isolation #21) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:36 pm

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^ Transcend alt ^
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #22) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:10 pm

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In post 1041, SlingshotWaffles wrote:
In post 1040, PenguinPower wrote:She explained it...
She explained what I did, but how is it scummy?
You Think You’re You I’m Will Have Who You Whom'st I’m I Am Give A Fuck?
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:38 pm

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we can lynch nm later days when we're sure we have no vigs or sk who wants to look like a vig
a vote on nm says nothing, slot produced no content so votes could come from town or opportunistic/bussing scum

it would be more interesting to see where people switch their votes if the wagon on nm dissolves, so vote waffles or whoever else
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:39 pm

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plus nm trolling is funny, waffles' trolling is annoying
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #25) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:55 pm

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In post 1059, SlingshotWaffles wrote:
In post 1058, Cheetory6 wrote:Comparison was probably bad.
Your question was still pretty ridiculous though, ie I don't know what kind of answer you were expecting from it that wasn't already detailed in her posts.
She's walked through why she finds you suspect and your response is to just ask what is suspect about you when she already has???
Because for me, that isn't something to SR me over. It's stuff I do every game no matter what.
then stop doing that ffs, how can you conscious about how aimless your play is but still repeat it every game?

hate to admit it but im having second doubts about this
and willing to switch vote to any other place than on nm(and grendel and backhand who seem town), so as to get an informative lynch
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #26) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:58 pm

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In post 20, notsure wrote:And it begins!

So glad I got Town.
So who didn't get town? No one?
actually nvm i cnt get over how terrible ^ this ^ is, vote stays
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #27) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:22 pm

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In post 1067, DeathRowKitty wrote: It's terrible, but is it scum-terrible? I can't imagine someone of either alignment saying it at all really. And yet he did. But what could he have been thinking that would have made him say it?
i cant quite place it, but its a persistent theme throughout notsure's ISO and it really reeks of nervousness
like trying hard to give off the impression that they're wearing their heart on their sleeves and getting verbose whenever a tangent, that doesnt advance the game in any meaningful way, presents itself

could be newbie town, but that kind of play is more likely to come from newbie scum
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #28) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 1071, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Cheet can you explain PP case?
hey you
where would you vote other than nm?
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #29) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:26 pm

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In post 1073, kraska77 wrote:where would you vote other than nm?
pp answer this too
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #30) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:39 pm

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yeah i agree, those posts are bad
so, pp pick one:waffles or ccc?
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #31) » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:45 pm

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okay then VOTE: ccc
switch to ccc
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #32) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:38 am

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You sure caught me!
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:57 am

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@transcend alt
atleast vote somewhere more relevant
In post 1101, implosion wrote:
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kraska77 (4): CCC, SlingshotWaffles, Nero Cain, Not_Mafia
CCC (4): Hiraki, Cheetory6, kraska77, PenguinPower
Not_Mafia (3): Backhand, DeathRowKitty, NotTheRealPaul
pick one
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:07 am

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Not_Mafia- who the fk knows
DeathRowKitty- no opinion yet
Cheetory6- town
Hiraki- lean town
CCC- lean scum
Grendel- after reading the iso im not sure about this one
MuttonChopMagic- who the fk knows
SlingshotWaffles- lean scum
Backhand- town
Nero Cain- SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but i would like to make sure people like waffles and ccc dont make it to end game before lynching nero
NotTheRealPaul- i think this might be scum
PenguinPower- no opinion yet
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:38 am

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Why should the fact that the main wagons are on people who usually get lynched early for bad play change anything? Lots of people feel like they have no footing because we're stuck in moonlogic limbo. it is still in towns best interests to not take lynchbait to endgame
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:58 am

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Ccc is getting lynched over nm because anyone can get away with voting nm today and everyone agrees nm hasn't done much at all. Ccc is someone who has put out more content and people had differing opinions on him. We get more info this way. Also I can't follow ccc's thought process on most reads, his posting is bad

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Post Post #1124 (isolation #37) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:01 am

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Grendel switching from pp, who noone seems to townread, to backhand who definitely won't get lynched today doesn't make sense. Grendel can actually campaign for a pp lynch if he tries but he chooses to park a vote somewhere irrelevant instead
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1129, Nero Cain wrote:@kranska Maybe I'm not understanding something but are you actually scumreading CCC or just want him lynched 'cause he's "lynchbait"?
I just posted my reads a page ago and said multiple times that I can't follow his thought process and don't like his posts,
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:26 am

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Nerocain is so scum
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #40) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:19 am

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hey guys
do u see whats wrong with this :down: ?
In post 765, Grendel wrote:I want to lynch Backhand, but will consider compromising on {Not_Mafia, Penguin power, Hiraki}
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #41) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:21 am

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so if pp, nm and hiraki are all on the same tier for grendel and all 3 are compromise votes then why did grendel switch from backhand to a vanity vote on pp instead of join a wagon on nm that has traction
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #42) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:29 am

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grendel has been really inconsistent. doesn't necessarily make him scum, but something to note for later...

anway
ccc is at l-1, claim pls
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #43) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:56 am

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loser that doesn't even rhyme
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #44) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:55 am

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yes
dont want tom to be a rerun of today with lots of moonlogic and me feeling out of sorts about everything
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #45) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 1159, Cheetory6 wrote: ccc thinking that someone copying his readlist is a thing that scum would actually do looks like crazy town logic
its just moonlogic...
and i really dont wanna have to do deal with this later days
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #46) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:03 am

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In post 1161, Cheetory6 wrote:How is PP not in your pile of players that you don't want to sort lategame?
i think pp and drk are getting away with minimum content bc everyones focused on the nonsense of waffles and ccc
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #47) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:07 am

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yes not wasting a lynch on nm when we dont know yet if we have a vig
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #48) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:11 am

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okay then
VOTE: nerocain
im positive this will flip scum, its about the only scumread im confident about
but i really do not look forword to a day 2 where i have to deal with waffles and ccc wallposting moonlogic about my slot....
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #49) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:22 am

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shutup muttonman, vote nerocain
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #50) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:24 am

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dont interject yourself in other people's conversations thats rude
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:25 am

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im starting to remember why i quit mafia before, you two are being really annoying
In post 1177, Backhand wrote:
CCC wrote: Fair enough, but let me point out again that "frustrating" and "useless" are not necessarily scummy behaviours.
Yeah, but fuck it I'm on a one-man campaign to bring back the lurker lynch.
vote nero instead
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #52) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:27 am

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if youre town just trust me and vote nero pls.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #53) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:33 am

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im taking a break from this game. bye
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #54) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:11 pm

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Berocain is being shittingly obvious scum but they don't even
Not even gonna bother campaign for that lynch, this town is shit
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #55) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:24 pm

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Click on nerocains iso, he only pops his head in the thread to defend himself, and whenever pressed for reads he says dunno could be scumcould be town
Fking a

That is. If you are interested in lynching scum. Also down for a ccc lynch if that is still happening, i really don't want to have to deal with both waffles and ccc again tom. They get on my nerves
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #56) » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:34 pm

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I won't check this thread later so this is my last post today.
Nerocain is scum, grwndel reeks of scum. Not sure who would make most sense as third buddy in this kind of team line-up. Can't tell apart shitty town from scum

And yes I don't plan on claiming anything
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:56 am

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Sorry,
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:12 am

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Yes
But I'm not just going off meta here, bc I don't really remember much(other than he seemed really assertive and stubborn)
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:37 am

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Soooo
Vote Nero
Come on guys
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:57 am

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Going out, so I won't have access to internet for a long time. If you lynh me, lynch Nero Cain next...don't get distracted by pp's backpedal on me
And keep an eye out for grendel, grendel's playing so as to not attract attention, says stuff to stay relevant enough but makes votes and pushes that dont transpire into something more meaningful
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:05 am

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hey guys, im back
nero voting pp doesnt make sense....
we have a 5 person wagon on me. why is nero getting off that
frankly im not comfortable with a pp lynch because he seems a consensus scumread, and those usually flip town more often than not

so guys please focus, lets lynch nero. i think this nero/me/waffles+ccc drama needs to be sorted today, i would even rather we lynch me over pp. otherwise tom will just be a rerun of today
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:05 am

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backhand and cheetory pls get back on nero, i promise we're getting a red flip
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:12 am

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nero/me should be the wagon choices for today. i think whichever one of us gets lynched, people will have much better footing later days...i think...

pedit: i dont get why he would make a compromise vote(from what i can tell, hes saying im scum and waffles is lean scum?) on an outside shot when we have an actual wagon on me rn

anyway i think this me/nero thing needs to be sorted out today. what do you think?
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:20 am

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it doesnt make sense to me either tbh.

pedit: but pp is a consensus secondary scumread...this doesnt feel right
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:36 am

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In post 1287, Cheetory6 wrote:I feel like scumNero can't bring this level of stubbornness to his reads.
Persistence on kraska and not relenting on even a small point on her just reminds me a lot more of what I saw in Civ from him.
at the risk of sounding like a broken record, i dont think the recent stubbornness counts bc hes forced into position, and its a response to my pestering. before that, he was waffling all over the place
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:44 am

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In post 1332, Hiraki wrote:when endgame shows CCC & Slingshot scum, you can all suq my dick tbh
ccc's latest post gave me an aneurysm but i really think ccc is town now. seriously what kind of scum would make a "my townreads are scumreading you, that probably makes u scum!" argument?

waffles i can barely contain the murderous rage against and would vote in a heartbeat
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:45 am

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you exist
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:57 am

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because lots of people are hyper focused on me being scum and they cant all be scum. seeing a green flip from me will make them reconsider their reads
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:04 am

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In post 1348, SlingshotWaffles wrote:
In post 1347, kraska77 wrote:because lots of people are hyper focused on me being scum and they cant all be scum. seeing a green flip from me will make them reconsider their reads
Nope. Not really.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:08 am

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im arguing that the me/nero thing needs to be resolved today, penguin has nothing to do with this
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:39 am

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i just burst into laffs lmao!!
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:58 am

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okay ntrp and ccc redeem yourselves and vote nerocain
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:00 am

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i hope someone eventually pours water into shitty spambots mutton's and waffles' circuits irl
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:03 am

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In post 1392, CCC wrote:Argh, it's too late at night for this.

Both my top townreads (Cheetory and Backhand) are on PenguinPower. One of my top scumreads (NTRP) is on Kraska. I'll trust that at least
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of those three reads is good.

VOTE: PenguinPower
look, you also think one of me or nero should go today. so do something about that. vote nero
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:08 am

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yolo VOTE: penguinpower
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:09 am

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VOTE: kraska
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #77) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:50 am

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Hey guys
Can you give me a list of roles that can redirect might actions and are also listed as "normal"? Coz I got nightactions I wasn't supposed to get
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #78) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:54 am

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I got what looks like a cop's inno on someone
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #79) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:54 am

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Nah I checked with implosion, this was intended
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #80) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:02 am

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Anyway confusing stuff aside....
I just noticed that OP says scumchat was open for the first 48 hours of day 1, and looking at the VC's with that in mind, nottherealpaul is def town...he had a vote on himself for majority of day one and there's No way his scumbuddies wouldn't have pressed him to take it off way sooner

Pedit: I don't know, I'll look at that Tom, I'm busy today

Oh and
VOTE: nerocain
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #81) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:59 am

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Wait i think people are misunderstanding. post 1429 isn't isolated, its a followup to 1427.

So I'm just going to come clear with this stuff:
I got info that muttonboy's alignment is town. Except I definitely did not target him night 1...sooooo
It's either just a message that was sent to me
Or it was an investigation result that was redirected to me

What do you think? I don't know what to make of this stuff. This is the first game I play in half a year, my memory on roles is really fuzzy
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #82) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:21 am

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To be more clear, investigating alignments is not something I can do with my role
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #83) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:38 am

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It does
I even thought this was a mod error at first
Hey can you recheck your pm,
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #84) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:48 am

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No, no fruits
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #85) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:10 am

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Ugh I'm sorry, i dodnt know there was a role like that. I should have kept quiet obviously, sorry
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #86) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:16 am

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Post Post #1459 (isolation #87) » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:46 am

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i'll try to not be stupid next time. i understand if u end up subbing out coz i ruined it for you but hope u dont



Not_Mafia
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striked out people we have strong reason to believe are town
that leaves drk, backhand, nm, nerocain, waffles, hiraki and grendel as lynchpool, lets work from here
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #88) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:54 am

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im thinking drk, grendel, nero cain team

im just waiting for grendel to show up at this point
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:17 pm

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Nerocain is transparent scum, like if you had an inkling of doubt about this it should be gone after his posts on day 2
Annoying as your resistance to a me to lynch is, i dont think you as scumbuddy would want to constantly miscontrue and strawman peoples scumreads on nero and reduce them to just "META META META". No credit to gain here and it's making you stand out in a negative way, so you're probably town
So
Can you actually read neros fucking iso and then re-read posts outlining scumreads on him and then come back and give me atleast one reason to reconsider a scumread on him?
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:27 pm

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Can u not be childish? Thx
Like sure waffles slot has been terrible but do you have one good reason to not consider a Nero lynch? And don't give me that "elaborate on nero" retort again. Nero scumread has been explained over and over, you just keep dismissing it as "META META META" when it's not even meta based
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #91) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:27 pm

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Okay, I'll be back tom when im free to write down a detailed post on nero and grendel
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:06 am

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@slingshot
Copy this list and add your read next to each person
In post 0, implosion wrote:Not_Mafia bigbenwd
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:44 am

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In post 1542, SlingshotWaffles wrote:NotTheRealPaul- prob Town
So then....why are you voting him...........?
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:50 am

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slingshots reads:

me, mutton
paul, hiraki, grendel
cheetory
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nm
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drk, backhand
nc

pick one of your 3 scumreads and vote there
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:16 am

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Image


slingshot waffles only agrees to vote scum when other people (not me) ask him to do it
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #96) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:46 pm

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im travelling soon and will be cut off internet for days so i should put sth out before that happens, i'll do proper reads post tom(not that anyone cares lol...)
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #97) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:02 pm

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I'm this is too much.
Can we vote to wotc waffles and the new spambot out? Or at least one of them?
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #98) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:17 pm

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Slingshotwaffles has 146 in this game. None of them say anything. He spams every page with useless questions and doesn't say anything that helps make his slot readable in any way. one zero-content spam slot is enough

I'm Going to pm the mod about this, if you feel this is hurting the game too pls pm the mod to wotc atleast one of them out of the game
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #99) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:34 am

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In post 1710, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:{kraska, mcm}
{waffles}
{paul, vedith}
{cheetory, ccc}
{hiraki, backhand} - dont care to read/null
{grendel, nero}
Okay but.......
Are you serious about waffles' and vedith's placement? Like I agree they're more likely town than not but how can you be more assured about contentless slots being toqn than cheetory being town for example
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #100) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:43 am

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Also I will stop being lazy tonight I promise
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #101) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:10 am

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Right? What's his deal.......
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #102) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:12 am

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Grendel's reads' progression is non existent. It really reads like he's starting from conclusions and making his way back
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #103) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:17 am

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Yeah I was talking about Hiraki in the first post...he sounds so upset over nero being pushed im confused
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #104) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:31 am

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In post 1727, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:the town narrative where he's annoyed that meta he doesnt have experience with is a thing is a thing i guess but im pretty sure non-meta reasons to scumread nero have been brought to the table and even if they havent before my replace in i've pushed nonmeta stuff so?

the bullheaded refusal to see it doesnt rly compute with me though which is why i'm skeptical
I don't think he nets anything here by being so angsty and inflexible. His behaviour would make a lot more sense if he's scum and we're wrong about nero....but still, the way he's going about all of this is still way too overt to gain him any town credit, in fact I think people would want him lynched tomorrow if nero flips town today
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #105) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:08 am

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In post 1737, SlingshotWaffles wrote:
In post 1735, Hiraki wrote:
In post 1542, SlingshotWaffles wrote:Hiraki- lean Town
i can tell you that i changed nothing in my behavior so I'm sure you have such good reasoning here
That's from your perspective.
Stop spamming
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #106) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:14 am

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Because "that's from your perspective" really clears things up and helps us know where your head's at! Thanks! You don't need to spam every single page, if you don't plan on being useful just don't post
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Post Post #1818 (isolation #107) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:35 am

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@grendel, im sorry if this game has been genuinely unfun for you, if im a big part of why you are not enjoying yourself
but put yourself in my position and go over your iso, especially the part from end of day 1 and start of day 2, you will see why i am unable to trust your reads. your reads' progressions are really disjointed and abrupt, probably because you are keeping the notes and the process behind them to yourself. from my point of view, you're starting from sudden conclusions like "x is sxum" and then slowly back them up over your next string of posts in your iso, and you did the same thing on day 1 when you passively parked a vote on pp and for the most part avoided commenting on the main happenings of the game. i understand if you're frustrated, but if you'd drop your thoughts on people whenever you feel that gave you pause or made you reconsider your reads, that would really suffice. and my reads are definitely not set in stone so dw about that, and im definitely willing to reconsider my reads if i start feeling youre town, i just havent seen any reason to reconsider yet but im giving you the benifit of the doubt and it's why im pushing nero over you
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #108) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:46 am

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ugh i really hate my last post...it really sounds smug af im sorry, i wrote that shit in a hurry so ignore it pls

@what you said about people ignoring nottherealpaul
yeah...im also confused by this tbh....
but he's more likely town than not, so having people focus elswhere doesnt hurt i guess? paul self voted for majority of day 1 and almost got lynched for that, scumchat was open for the first 48 hours and i doubt a scumteam with paul in it wouldnt have pushed him to unvote asap
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #109) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:44 am

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rn my list looks like this i think

people im positive are town: giga, cheetory, ccc, nottherealpaul,
people im townreading but dont really have a good reason to: backhand
probably town:hiraki, grendel
unreadable: slingshot, nm/vedith
scum: nero
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #110) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:44 am

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ugh ok my list is terrible :(
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #111) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:54 am

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im worried that im townreading people just for being cooperative/active, everyone below town tier in my list has not been contibuting


pedit: cheet is just really strong gut read i guess...
ccc for the "my townreads are scumreading you so youre probably scum" shtick...i guess? ccc was pretty close to being lynched on day 1 so him continuing to justify almost every one of his reads with this line of logic doesnt seem like a thing scum would do. his reaction to his pressure and the way his reads and votes changed under pressure on day 1 all looks town to me
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #112) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 1844, Backhand wrote:I would be very surprised if nero AND slingshot are scum
me too. part of why i dont like my list
nero's halfassed scumread on slingshot on day 1 felt more like using a convenient read on a scummy slot as copout from scumhunting than distancing from a partner
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #113) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:33 am

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Hey. Phone about to die. Okay....that was a weird nightkill (???) But I appreciate it nonetheless <3

I still think that associations (or lack thereof?) Between grendel andnero were really damning and uhhh grendel's "I'm disengaged from this game" posts yesterday are making me hesitate....but I try to think of another plausable candidate for Nero scumbuddy, and nobody else comes to mind.
Backhand and Hiraki are way townier than grendel and I can't seriously consider lynches on them while grendel's still in the game

Vedith remains unreadable so we can rope that first of that's what the majority wants...and yeah I agree with what others said about this setup seeming too townsided with a backup

One thing we should look into is any notable change in interactions pattern between the time when nero first replaced in and was widely townread based on predecessor, and nero's associations towatds the end of day 1 when people were starting to suspect him. I will have decent internet access when I'm back at my hotel room after Tom, so this will have to waiti till then
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #114) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:28 am

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Ok I'm done reading both accpuntant and nero's iso's
Accountant waltzed into the game saying it's full of VIs, and spent a good portion of day 1 piling on notsure, gamma and waffles. Accountant iso emanates lots of confidence in surviving till endgame, we already know that 3/4 people they pushed either flipped green or are confirmed town at this point. With the exceptions of backhand. Halfway through day one accountant switched gears and campained strongly for a backhand wagon...., dpesnt make much sense for a widely townread accountant who is strongly manipulating the flow of the game, to get off the lynchbaits that everyone wanted lynched and bus backhand instead
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #115) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:51 am

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More later sorry
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #116) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:14 pm

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Ugh I think this is town vedith...vedith vote grendel with me pls
Giga is definitely town here...grendel continues to distance himself from the main happenings of the game and wallposts on an outside shot instead... he's scum
Backhand, giga, vedith and Paul are town
That leaves hiraki and ccc as candidates for last scum
VOTE: grendel
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #117) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:23 pm

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Giga don't you think this is town vedith?
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:48 pm

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i agree it's time for massclaim
Paul don't claim anything yet....if we go by mcm's order, you're last
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Post Post #2166 (isolation #119) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:35 am

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Vedith didn't protect anyone, he's backup
Hiraki claims next then you
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Post Post #2190 (isolation #120) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:54 pm

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In post 2181, Grendel wrote:seven power roles in this set up if nobody is lying
They're backups, not power roles. I just checked the wiki, including backups without primary roles is allowed in normal games. Also Hiraki gains nothing by claiming backup motion detector. Also you are scum
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #121) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:44 am

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Let's lynch grendel guys
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #122) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:48 am

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I'm not talking about towncredit. Accountant loses more by bussing a backhand scumbuddy when the game was riddled with lynchbait, bussing was not necessary at all at that point
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #123) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:05 am

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Guys no-one unvotes pls

Grwndel is scum because:
- the defeatist attitude on early day 2 did not make sense given the game state; only one town dead and no nightkills, plus no-one was really pestering him other than me, and I was voting nero not even him
- very passive play on day 1, grendel did not put any effort into getting wagons going on his scumreads, it's like he made sure none of his votes transpire into lynches. Made non-controversial votes ,like his vote-park on pp, and had NOTHING to say about me/Nero competing wagons
-Lots of vote hopping and scrambling today, one minute giga is scum, next it's Hiraki, then back to backhand
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #124) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:08 am

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Paul does your thing detect motion on mcm or only motion by the person you watch?
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #125) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:20 am

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In post 2254, Cheetory6 wrote:Would be both kraska.
okay...useless result then
We should make a pool for Paul to check in
{Hiraki, backhand, vedith, giga, ccc} ???
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #126) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:23 am

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In post 2255, Backhand wrote:A little surprising that our alleged rolestopper didn't target MCM Night 2, though.
? Rolestopper isn't like j.k. mcm can still send actions, only actions on him are stopped
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:26 am

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oh...
yeah
Good catch
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Should we lunch vedith then?
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #128) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:29 am

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This really feels like town vedith tho....
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #129) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:45 am

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In post 2263, NotTheRealPaul wrote:No I didnt realize that lol. I thought I got to see who did motion on what and if motion occured who did it on whoever I was watching. Thus why I was surprised at lack of info :/

Watched MCM cuz I was TRing him pretty hard and he was conftown so I thought scum might shoot and Id find out who scum is.
There's a wiki you can check in the future if youre not sure what your role does
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
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Post Post #2327 (isolation #130) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:27 pm

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In post 2304, Cheetory6 wrote:I could case Hiraki,
my biggest hesitation is that if Grendel is scum I will feel dumb for ignoring kraska's like 100% confidence on him being scum.
I'm having second thoughts tbh....
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Post Post #2400 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:12 am

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There is also the possibility that Paul was rolecopped by scum, and that hiraki is claiming a fake role
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:17 am

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But I honestly don't feel hiraki is scum here.
Fuck
Who is scum

Vedith covfefe Not_Mafia bigbenwd
gigabyteTroubadour DeathRowKitty
Hiraki Raya36
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Not backhand, vedith, Paul or giga

Pedit: okay whatever let's get hiraki today
VOTE: hiraki
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Post Post #2406 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:19 am

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Holy fucking shit did I just hammer
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:20 am

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Duck I'm sorry guys
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Post Post #2411 (isolation #135) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:23 am

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No I did that was hammer
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #136) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:27 am

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But would scum use the "my townreads scumread you" logic as justification for almost every single vote they've dropped since day 1
And ccc continued to put out moonlogic posts one that even when the Day 1 wagon on him had traction
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Post Post #2421 (isolation #137) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:28 am

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Like* that even....
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #138) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:44 am

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Post Post #2459 (isolation #139) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:50 pm

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Paul check in this pool:
Grendle, ccc, vedith,
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #140) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:00 pm

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Oh yes sorry
Has everyone said their piece or should I wait a bit more before hammering?
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #141) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:39 pm

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You're not a transcend alt?
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Post Post #2584 (isolation #142) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:40 pm

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Hmm no you're an rb alt
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