Open 694: Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:41 am

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Vedith's Entrance


Vedith starts off after replacing in by calling 4 different people scum. In order, we have Game, Sun, Transcend and myself. I would consider his entrance to stop at post 691, which is where the meaty stuff is.

-The main point here is that Vedith was accusing a ton of people and making no effort to engage with anyone.



The vote on me

In post 691, Vedith wrote:
In post 673, GameNBurger wrote:This thread is redundant unless vedith wants to extrapolate or trascend wants to contribute to this game

We need new voices
Okay. I've decided that game is town.
jjh is Scum
Bombcat is Scum.

You are welcome

VOTE: jjh
At the time of voting, I had just started townleaning Bomb and switched my vote over to Vedith. This vote came very shortly after. The state of the wagon is absolutely critical to understanding this.

@mod: It appears you've made the same mistake Sparkles did so I'm not copying your VC, but Egg was and still is voting Bombcat.


-Bombcat was at 4 votes before I switched, or L-3. I was at no votes. Admittedly, VCs showed L-4.
-Vedith scumreads Bombcat for things that happened long before I switched.
-Vedith was not and is not on the Bombcat wagon, and I am the first person he has voted.
-There is no reason for town!Vedith not to have been on the Bombcat wagon when it was at L-3.
-There is little reason for town!Vedith who actually believes both Bomb and myself to be scum not to vote Bomb instead of me.
-Scum motivation lies in having a mislynch driven by town, so scum such as Vedith could stay off the wagon.

-Next, the vote on me immediately followed my vote on him.
-It's an omgus. There is little else to say. This is not RVS. This is outright scummy.
-As attention turned to Vedith and his inaction, he needed to be active in order to secure a mislynch rather than getting himself lynched.

-Lastly, this post means that Vedith believes the whole exchange between me and Bomb to be D1 scum theatre, the concept of which I find ridiculous.



On Meta


I'm not saying anything about Vedith's meta and alignment indicativeness. I said it was odd that he wasn't shitposting. I did not say that it was AI. However, this is the one point Vedith can refute, and so he is using it in order to discredit my case and my skill as a player.
In post 738, Vedith wrote:jjh, you tried to give a meta read for me not doing something I did as scum.
And that is the only game you have with me.

You are scum here.
-Here's the big strawman argument I'm talking about.
-This is not my second time seeing Vedith in game. He knows this. Downplaying my experience in a way I cannot directly refute in order to fit his argument is scummy.


Closing notes


-Vedith does not appear to be actively scumhunting, instead choosing to shout at people.
-There is no willingness to explain any of the conclusions he is reaching, despite being asked on a number of occasions.
-His gameplay thus far utterly reeks of opportunism.


Vedith is scum. Thank you for the pagetop
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:44 am

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So jjh is trying to use his meta on games not over. Good to know. :up:
Lynch this fuck.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:45 am

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This still isn't a meta argument
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:48 am

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You can lock onto that strawman all you want, and I've both explained that it wasn't a point about alignment and conceded that you're right about it, but the way you're going about continuing to dispute it is really scummy
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 752, jjh927 wrote:This still isn't a meta argument
The rest of your argument was a joke. So I took it as a joke. :giggle:
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:53 am

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I also think that you are just a dip shit town rather than scum.
But trying to use out of game influence with games that are currently running, I want you lynched for that.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:56 am

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convince me he's scum
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:57 am

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No. Just vote with me.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:00 am

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go eat a bingo card
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:01 am

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Sesq, did you read my case on Vedith
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:06 am

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In post 759, jjh927 wrote:Sesq, did you read my case on Vedith
No one gives a shit on your shit case.
Now die.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 755, Vedith wrote:I also think that you are just a dip shit town rather than scum.
But trying to use out of game influence with games that are currently running, I want you lynched for that.
Killing a town right now is not helpful to us whatsoever. I urge you to reconsider this stance.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:13 am

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Why are you still reasoning with scum
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:30 am

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I don't like vedith

I thought echo was town but vedith play doesn't sit well with me

Whose town vedith
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:31 am

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Could you maybe vote him then
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:36 am

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VOTE: Vedith

I hate to be sheeping jjh, but honestly I'm convinced. Also I thought Echo was scum, so there's that.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:39 am

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I'm not that reactive

Nor do I like suggestions of such

Also I'm mostly out for the day so no way am I gonna leave my vote on someone whose a fart in the wind for now
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:46 am

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When I accuse someone of something, and they immediately try to do the opposite of what I accuse them of, I get suspicious.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 am

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In post 767, Flubbernugget wrote:When I accuse someone of something, and they immediately try to do the opposite of what I accuse them of, I get suspicious.
What's that directed at
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:55 am

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Lol
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:56 am

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In post 768, jjh927 wrote:
In post 767, Flubbernugget wrote:When I accuse someone of something, and they immediately try to do the opposite of what I accuse them of, I get suspicious.
What's that directed at
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:03 am

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In post 759, jjh927 wrote:Sesq, did you read my case on Vedith
yeah

i found it unconvincing
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 698, Transcend wrote:Raya site flaked right?
No site flake here. Just super busy and catching up.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:16 am

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Jjh, why are you so concerned about my 767?
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:19 am

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I don't know who or what you're referring to
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