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Post Post #16325  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:45 pm

Nah not that, just the "They hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over" bit.
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Post Post #16326  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:04 pm

I worked it out to being the first time I've noticed him sounding legitimately concerned for another person's wellbeing, paired with such a ridiculous scenario.

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Post Post #16327  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:24 pm

I'd like to see the statistic on 'border agents getting injured by things being thrown over the border'.
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Post Post #16328  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:53 pm

So I saw GWAR today

No points for guessing what they did at the end of the show

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Post Post #16329  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:55 pm

In post 16326, Davsto wrote:Nah not that, just the "They hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over" bit.



Nah I got that part man but there's so many little glimpses of the intricacies of the universe in DJT's statement it's amazing

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Post Post #16330  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:10 am

In post 16328, T-Bone wrote:I'd like to see the statistic on 'border agents getting injured by things being thrown over the border'.

Well, none obviously, since the current border fence is able to be seen through. The border agents can move out of the way of the giant bags of cocaine being thrown over the wall.
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Post Post #16331  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:56 am

Not true. The Clinton Foundation has been handing out invisible paint to drug runners for years specifically to hit border agents.
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Post Post #16332  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:52 am

In post 16323, Davsto wrote:I can't tell why but something about the last two sentences of that is fucking hysterical

I'm not some kind of joke explaining bot, but the setup of the joke establishes the topic as being potential vulnerabilities of the border wall, referring to the dangerous topic of drug trafficking. Then the punchline of the joke subverts the audiences expectations by pointing, not to criminal activity or drug use, but to a man being struck by a blindly thrown bag of heroin as an example of this danger.

A well formed joke.

Also, isn't posting the patrolling guards on top of the wall, like, Fortification 101?

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Post Post #16333  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:45 am

In post 16307, theplague42 wrote:If only the Republican governors had let the ACA actually have its full effect, the red states didn't hamstring the individual mandate, a public option had been put into place, and the Republican party didn't constantly lie about where the plan came from, how the marketplace was functioning, and their "so amazing just give us the entire government at all levels and we'll fix everything" plan to replace it.


Yes. It's the Republicans' fault that the ACA was a disaster. Not Obama lying about how you can keep your doctor. Not people's premiums tripling.

The "it's not real socialism" meme seems extremely applicable.

In post 16308, GreyICE wrote:But I guess this is what blind partisan ideology gets you, a voter base so fucking retarded they literally cannot parse reality.


Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?

In post 16312, Fluminator wrote:Hold the phone, really?


After his talk of systematic deportation and cultural issues in Africa, as well as his recent cosiness to Trump, sure. It's possible that Macron is actually a closet anti-globalist.

In post 16321, Not_Mafia wrote:"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you.

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Post Post #16334  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:46 am

Let's talk about two interesting issues. The utter unpopularity of a single payer health system in America, and the curious correlation in Poland between no migrants and no terror attacks.
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Post Post #16335  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:48 am

In post 16306, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 16300, T S O wrote:Trump won the election, or at least the Rust Belt, almost solely on his promise to repeal Obamacare because it was bleeding people dry. So please stop pretending that the GOP are faceless aliens who delight in killing people. The ACA was a disaster.

also on his promise to continue voter suppression efforts that won him the rust belt


He won the Rust Belt because Democrat voter turnout was down. This may shock you, but the black community, for example, did not actually support Hillary, a rich white woman, as much as they did Obama, the first ever African-American president.
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Post Post #16336  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:51 am

your posts are just spin
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Post Post #16337  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:38 am

In post 16334, T S O wrote:Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?

Do you agree that each person can have a different mix of masculinity or femininity, and that each person isnt 100% masculine or 100% feminine?

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Post Post #16338  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:43 am

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Post Post #16339  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:32 am

In post 16334, T S O wrote:Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?


Gender isn't a scientific concept. It is largely the social manifestation of performance of social traits/customs/norms and as Dwlee points out, there is a lot of room to mix and match with the billions of ways to gender perform.

But even if you are just being lazy with terminology, there aren't even two SEXES. What constitutes sex? Chromosomes? There are more than two sex chromosome combinations. Genitals? More than two ways to have genitals, including neither and both. Something else that magically vindicates you? Let's hear it.
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Post Post #16340  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:34 pm

I do love when people like TSO argue about the problems that the ACA created that either A) the law doesn't actually have an effect on B) the Republicans picking the law apart with budget reconciliation ACTUALLY caused the problems of C) the problems exist in the healthcare system independent of the ACA.

But let me bite from the stupid apple. Suppose we lived in a world where the ACA caused premiums to skyrocket. Medicaid expansion had NOTHING to do with it. Why does the GOP solution have to include taking away Meidcaid from 20 million people?
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Post Post #16341  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:58 pm

In post 16334, T S O wrote:
In post 16308, GreyICE wrote:But I guess this is what blind partisan ideology gets you, a voter base so fucking retarded they literally cannot parse reality.


Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?


Cargo cult science is a blind adherence to the appearance of science without the intellectual rigor. As the cargo cults build things in the shape of airfields with faith that airdrops would spontaneously occur, so does cargo cult science make things in the shape of scientific beliefs in faith that science is science because it sounds scientific. The right has taken enormous liberties with this. They've realized that cargo cult science is simply easier to understand - that by telling people things that are simple in terms that sound scientific they are liable to believe it. Just as Newton's theory of motion was far simpler than Einstein's theory of relativity - mass changing and time slowing based on relative velocities is quite frustratingly complex - the truth is not necessarily the simplest explanation.

So spitball for me, how many different chromosomes do you think people can have?
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Post Post #16342  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:59 pm

Oh and if TSO is in favor of single payer over the unbelievable piece of shit that is our current health system I've found one thing I agree with him on.
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Post Post #16343  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:28 pm

In post 16329, Flubbernugget wrote:So I saw GWAR today

No points for guessing what they did at the end of the show


Did they spray slave urine onto you? I wouldn't think they'd save that for the end though
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Post Post #16344  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:25 am

Let's think about why I posted it in this thread of all places

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Post Post #16345  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:04 am

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... ees-trump/

interesting stuff

seems diminishing favorable opinions of the US and its leaders especially in latin countries might actually be a useful strategy for keeping them from from illegally entering the country
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Post Post #16346  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:06 am

GWAR is still worth seeing now that the lead dude is dead?
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Post Post #16347  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:27 am

In post 16335, T S O wrote:Let's talk about two interesting issues. The utter unpopularity of a single payer health system in America, and the curious correlation in Poland between no migrants and no terror attacks.


Hmm. This post somehow went unnoticed. Curious indeed.

In post 16337, Psyche wrote:your posts are just spin


Which ones?

In post 16338, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 16334, T S O wrote:Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?

Do you agree that each person can have a different mix of masculinity or femininity, and that each person isnt 100% masculine or 100% feminine?


Sure. But even the most feminine man is still a man. Your level of masculinity or femininity is not related to your gender. It's simply not a social construct. I'm sure you've had that line rammed down your throat for years to the point of indoctrination, but it's not true.

In post 16340, AniX wrote:
In post 16334, T S O wrote:Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?


Gender isn't a scientific concept. It is largely the social manifestation of performance of social traits/customs/norms


No. Gender is a scientific concept. You are born a man or woman, and you can't change it. It's obvious to everyone in a thousand different ways - your face, your bone structure, your genitals, your body's natural hormones.

But even if you are just being lazy with terminology, there aren't even two SEXES.


This is not even flat earth territory anymore. This is something else entirely.

What constitutes sex? Chromosomes? There are more than two sex chromosome combinations. Genitals? More than two ways to have genitals, including neither and both. Something else that magically vindicates you? Let's hear it.


Chromosomes, genitals, hormones... there are a million differences between males and females. You being able to provide an example of someone with both a penis and a vagina doesn't disprove anything. I've read about a girl who doesn't feel hunger because she's missing a chromosome. We do not divide humans into hunger-feeling and not-hunger-feeling.

I understand the line of argument, though. If only one thing defines a gender, and you can provide a counterexample, your argument might be able to hold itself up a little. Sadly, gender is not defined by any single thing, so it's much harder to find a "gotcha!" to it.

In post 16341, T-Bone wrote:I do love when people like TSO argue about the problems that the ACA created that either A) the law doesn't actually have an effect on B) the Republicans picking the law apart with budget reconciliation ACTUALLY caused the problems of C) the problems exist in the healthcare system independent of the ACA.

But let me bite from the stupid apple. Suppose we lived in a world where the ACA caused premiums to skyrocket. Medicaid expansion had NOTHING to do with it. Why does the GOP solution have to include taking away Meidcaid from 20 million people?


Can you explain what exactly the GOP did to cause the death of the ACA, and why it would have worked if the GOP hadn't done it?

In post 16342, GreyICE wrote:
In post 16334, T S O wrote:
In post 16308, GreyICE wrote:But I guess this is what blind partisan ideology gets you, a voter base so fucking retarded they literally cannot parse reality.


Your party's belief in more than two genders - a belief you share - is equivalent to flat earth theory in its stupidity and anti-science nature. But if you want to get those sweet sweet LGBT votes, you have to tell them that their beliefs can warp reality to their needs, right?


Cargo cult science is a blind adherence to the appearance of science without the intellectual rigor. As the cargo cults build things in the shape of airfields with faith that airdrops would spontaneously occur, so does cargo cult science make things in the shape of scientific beliefs in faith that science is science because it sounds scientific. The right has taken enormous liberties with this. They've realized that cargo cult science is simply easier to understand - that by telling people things that are simple in terms that sound scientific they are liable to believe it. Just as Newton's theory of motion was far simpler than Einstein's theory of relativity - mass changing and time slowing based on relative velocities is quite frustratingly complex - the truth is not necessarily the simplest explanation.


This was beautiful to read, but I didn't feel particularly enlightened after having done so.

So spitball for me, how many different chromosomes do you think people can have?


Why do you think that matters?

In post 16343, GreyICE wrote:Oh and if TSO is in favor of single payer over the unbelievable piece of shit that is our current health system I've found one thing I agree with him on.


I'm afraid not. I was referring to the overwhelming negative response to single payer in Colorado of all states.

I do agree that your health system is awful though.
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Post Post #16348  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:36 am

Sadly, gender is not defined by any single thing, so it's much harder to find a "gotcha!" to it.


so much nuance and yet
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Post Post #16349  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:24 am

i have seen a man throw up such that the impact knocked another man unconscious

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