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Post Post #2250  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:27 pm

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massive is at L-2!
Thirty-eighth Votecount: (Third Votecount D4)
massive - 2 (ReplacedIn, iDanyboy)
ReplacedIn - 1 (massive)

Not Voting - 4 (EeveeLution Army, Fro99er, aronagrundy, Mulch)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

massive is at L-2!

Day 4's deadline is Monday, August 7th, @ 04:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-07 19:00:23).

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  • mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.

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Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount (none)
(=0)massive - 2 (ReplacedIn, iDanyboy)
(=0)ReplacedIn - 1 (massive)

(=0)Not Voting - 4 (EeveeLution Army, Fro99er, aronagrundy, Mulch)
Last votecount was .
Spoiler: Player Vote History Day Four
Spoiler: Players Who Have BEEN Voted Day Four
  1. massive: 3 - , ,
  2. ReplacedIn: 1 -
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:26p, ReplacedIn voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:35p, iDanyboy Voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:55p, Mulch Voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 06:15p, Mulch Unvoted(massive) in post .
On Tue, Jul 07/18/17 @ 07:00a, massive Voted ReplacedIn in post .

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Post Post #2251  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:00 pm

In post 2230, massive wrote:I'm pretty sure I could dance naked in front of my picture window and ReplacedIn would call it "a pretty clear indicator massive is scum"

Only one way to find out, start dancing!

In post 2231, EeveeLution Army wrote:Well u just said all my possible reads? Also i dont want mulch to hammer
In post 2233, EeveeLution Army wrote:Incase scum supersaint? Is that a possibility?

Um, what? Scum supersaint is never going to be a role inside a normal game, that much I can virtually guarentee you. Also if the only reads you have right now is a town read on myself and a scum read on Massive you'd have to think Frogger is scum via PoE and you're not really doing a lot to get either Massive or Frogger lynched here? Like again I'm looking at your play and wondering 'what's he doing to lynch mafia / win the game' and the answer is nothing? I understand and acknowledge you're a newer player but at this point you should either be a) Voting Massive or b) Elaborating on your reads / explaining why you dont want to do a), you're doing neither.

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Post Post #2252  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:12 pm

VOTE: massive

Still don't want mulch to hammer. Anyway considering you've said it was two of me/massive/frogger that means they are scum in my PoV although frogger is more of a lead scum then a hard scum.

Something about mulch just feels off to me idk what it is. It's probably nothing but if me/massive/frogger flip town i say question him a bit more tbh.
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Post Post #2253  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:13 pm

In post 2246, EeveeLution Army wrote:Nothing is technically "clear" in a setup where we dont have the exact rolelist

iDanny boy is 100% clear, there's no 'if's or 'buts' about it, role interactions means it's impossible for him to be mafia here. With it being confirmed that GI was roleblocked N1 the only way Mulch can be mafia is if mafia have a second roleblocker that was on Arona or if Mulch is a scum commuter or something of the sort, the odds of that are so slim and frankly it'd make the game design even worse that I'm just willing to lose to that ever happening and wipe my hands of it. Plus Mulch is pretty ObvTown via play herself and via interactions that it's a non-issue.

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Post Post #2254  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:15 pm

Also don't think I elaborated on it earlier as much as I'd have liked but Froggers stance on Massive yesterday with him stating a scum read on him when Arona was unclear and then when Arona was cleared and the PoE pool looked much smaller not helping me in actually getting Massive lynched is a very very very big scum tell if I'm indeed correct on Massive being mafia. It's him knowing the suspect pool is so small that he needs the FF mslynch to happen and if Massive is a roleblocker or something of the sort with Aronas claim he cannot afford to buss anymore since doing so puts him in auto-loss. So frankly if Massive is a roleblocker I'd say that Froggers more probable mafia than Eeve.

Anyway good with a hammer now.

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Post Post #2255  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:16 pm

Also thank you for clarifying about supersaint i wasn't 100% sure how MS sees it.
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Post Post #2256  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:33 pm

VOTE: Massive

You got me I was a saintfuck or wahtever it is

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Post Post #2257  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:40 pm

In post 2256, Mulch wrote:VOTE: Massive
Thaaaat's hammer.

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Post Post #2258  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:46 pm

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Thirty-ninth Votecount: (Fourth Votecount D4)
massive - 4 (ReplacedIn, iDanyboy, EeveeLution Army, Mulch)
ReplacedIn - 1 (massive)

Not Voting - 2 (Fro99er, aronagrundy)

With 7 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

massive has been lynched.

Day 4's deadline was Monday, August 7th, @ 04:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-07 19:00:23).

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  • mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.

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Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount
(+2)massive - 4 (ReplacedIn, iDanyboy, EeveeLution Army, Mulch)
(=0)ReplacedIn - 1 (massive)

(-2)Not Voting - 2 (EeveeLution Army, Fro99er, aronagrundy, Mulch)
Last votecount was .
Spoiler: Player Vote History Day Four
Spoiler: Players Who Have BEEN Voted Day Four
  1. massive: 5 - , , , ,
  2. ReplacedIn: 1 -
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:26p, ReplacedIn voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:35p, iDanyboy Voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:55p, Mulch Voted massive in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 06:15p, Mulch Unvoted(massive) in post .
On Tue, Jul 07/18/17 @ 07:00a, massive Voted ReplacedIn in post .
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:12p, EeveeLution Army Voted massive in post .
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:33p, Mulch ==[]HAMMER[]== Voted massive in post .

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Post Post #2259  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:52 pm

Fuck I didn't prepare poetry,
Time for some improvising.
Yadda yadda you're impressive,
You lynched the bad guy massive.


massive, Mafia Goon, was Lynched D4.

Deadline would fall on the weekend, and so I will grant an extra day. Thus,
Deadline for night actions is Sunday, July 23rd, at 7:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-07-23 21:52:20).
Please send all night actions to BOTH nancy and I. This, to ensure your action goes through. >>>

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Post Post #2260  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:55 pm

Special Quicklynch Rule: When the day phase goes so quickly that there is a quicklynch, I have instilled a special requirement--as not all players were able to post over the duration of the day phase, I require every player to check in. I will be sending a PM which is an unlisted (that is, unmarked for official purposes) prod:
Failure to directly reply to this prod will warrant replacement, and suspension of deadline.
Players will have 48 hours to respond to the prod, as of the time I send it.

If a player does not respond to my prod by this time: (expired on 2017-07-21 21:57:46), I will immediately suspend deadline and seek a replacement.

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Post Post #2261  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:01 am

In post 2260, mastina wrote:Special Quicklynch Rule: When the day phase goes so quickly that there is a quicklynch, I have instilled a special requirement--as not all players were able to post over the duration of the day phase, I require every player to check in. I will be sending a PM which is an unlisted (that is, unmarked for official purposes) prod:
Failure to directly reply to this prod will warrant replacement, and suspension of deadline.
Players will have 48 hours to respond to the prod, as of the time I send it.

If a player does not respond to my prod by this time: (expired on 2017-07-21 21:57:46), I will immediately suspend deadline and seek a replacement.
<<< Fro99er has failed to respond to this prod, and thus, will be replaced.
Deadline is frozen at 48 hours, and will resume once I have found a replacement. I will announce the new deadline when I have the slot filled. >>>

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Post Post #2262  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:40 am

<<< Alisae replaces Fro99er effective immediately.
Night now resumes.

The new deadline for night actions is Monday, July 24th, @ 4:45 AM PDT: (expired on 2017-07-24 07:40:51).
Please send all night actions to BOTH nancy and I. This, to ensure your action goes through. >>>


(Please note that as I should be in bed at the time of the deadline, I will not be opening the thread for an additional 12 hours, approximately at 4 PM PDT rather than 4:45 AM. However, actions will be locked in at the given time and we will not accept actions past the due date, regardless of whether we are around to open the thread or not.)

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Post Post #2263  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:43 pm

Victory is well within sight,
Just a question who wins the fight.
It wouldn't take too much to lose,
It all comes down to what you choose.

The town are high on their spirits,
Having progressed with their lynch,
But their numbers continue to decrease,
Even though they've got just one fiend.

Hopes are high for the fifth day,
Everyone wants the end of the game,
Just a question of who did die,
And figuring out of course the why.

There's little temptation to bawl;
No huge loss and after all,
It's kind-of hard to sulk
When you lose a pile of Mulch.


Mulch, Vanilla Townie, died N4.

<<< Day Five begins now. Deadline is Monday, August 14th, @ 4:30 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-14 19:30:26).

With 5 alive, it will take 3 to lynch. >>>

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Post Post #2264  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:44 pm

HELLO WORLD!

If someone could like
catch me up
that would be lit
thankie :]
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Post Post #2265  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:51 pm

Exit one sib
Enter another sib
that's how our life goes :]
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Post Post #2266  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:15 pm

Holy fuck it's been a whole fucking 25 minutes since my last post god dammit people
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Post Post #2267  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:16 pm

Doesn't anyone have the common dencenty to speak around here?
It's like every decided to suddenly become the Past President of the Being Alive Club jesus fucking crist.
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Post Post #2268  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:16 pm

GOD DAM
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Post Post #2269  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:17 pm

Was expecting mafia to shoot Arona there, mafia shooting Mulch probably makes this game a little easier since Mulch was someone that could have voted anywhere? /Think/ the night kill makes more sense coming from Alisae not being aware of the game state but then again think Alisae would at least bother to read the thread so probably won't read too much into it. Just to make it completely clear in case you've not caught up yet Alisae (and well in general since I don't want to have to waste time having to explain this again to anyone) iDannyBoy and Arona are now 100% clear, there's zero chance of either being mafia given that the last remaining scum is confirmed to either be a full roleblocker or an odd night roleblocker. This means that GreyICE having a Loyal Cop innocent on iDannyBoy clears him and Arona claiming Weak Doctor with it being #3 actual power role inside the setup and it combining with the Macho aspect of LUV's role always makes him town. I'm an ascetic here, everyone else has already claimed and is a VT.

This really is as straightforward as us having 3 'suspects' and 2 lynches and I think it should be blatantly obvious at this stage I'm town for a multitude of really strong reasons (Manner and genuiness that I claimed combined with the fact that my role is very obviously required setup balance wise to reduce the odds of each of the three investigative roles could clear different players N1 and turn the game into autowin D2, interactions with the flipped scum and my slot in both directions particuarly Massive<->Myself not being W/W especially when we discussed his MMM read D1 and how he reacted yesterday towards me scum reading him, genuine scumhunting/transparency from my posts alone, it's well beyond anything I could do as scum and if I really have to I can reveal my main and confirm that meta if need be) which I could probably write an essay on if I had to which means as long as I don't get mslynched here this game is literally unloseable.

I'd rather this not have to go to a 3 way though and will be dedicating some time in the next few days to try and make sure we nail this down and win this today both because I don't want to even bring in the 1% chance I get lynched here and I kind of want to feel like I've deserved the win because while my reads were fairly solid from D2 onward (Had Massive nailed, realised and pushed through Chickadee > FF, wasn't particularly enthused about lynching FF yesterday and was doing everything I could to try and swing Massive instead as I was really second guessing FF being mafia which I'm pretty proud of given I'm normally one that favours mechanical information/odds, had a town core of Mulch/iDanny/Arona/Grey before Arona had claimed and before Grey had an innocent on iDanny), my D1 play wasn't particularly stellar and I'm sure GI won't let me live down the misread between MM<->Tchill postgame.'

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Post Post #2270  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:19 pm

Alisae, really need some real transparent-posting from you if you're town here given LMK had pretty much zero content before he replaced out and Frogger didn't have any participation on D2 and limited one on D3 so it's a fairly empty slot for the most part with some of the few things it's done (LMKs reads wall, Froggers lack of help getting Massive lynched and turnaround on FF) not being great, the latter example something I really think makes plenty of sense coming from mafia in that the timing of it happening after Arona was cleared feels like scum knowing their options are being closed in on them. Know there's not really anything you can to do answer for Frogger or LMK's actions so regardless of the actual alignment you've replaced into it's not an ideal situation but what you can do is actually show some genuine analysis/thoughts/reads while you're catching up, so if you're town here just focus on scumhunting.

Eeve, I need you to really start running me through some of your read progressions throughout this game and explain what you specifically were doing to actually move this game towards a win because your content post-D1 is pretty non-existent, your stance around Massive isn't great nor is your attitude on the FF v Chickadee situation. So if you're town here a few things I want you to explain are a) You suggested you weren't as confident in Mulch being town yesterday, obviously that's incorrect but I want to understand why you were thinking that, b) I want you to explain your stance on Massive in that you scum read him but didn't vote him on two consecutive days until forced to nor did you really assist him attempting to get him lynched, if you thought he was scum where was the commitment behind it, c) Run me through what you thought "learning there's a roleblocker" actually gained us on D2 since that was part of your reasoning behind voting FF there which is pretty ??? in that mslynching to learn a scums role isn't the way to go about it and lastly d) Run me through the "meta" you had on MMM that made you think he was town, this is a question I've asked you previously and got no answer about so really want you to spend a bit of time and explain to me where your head was at with him.

iDannyboy/Arona, wouldn't particularly minding you guys going through and taking a look at Massive<->Eeve and Massive<->LMK/Frogger interactions for us to bounce off about/discuss sometime soon but would prefer you guys not posting your analysis and thoughts on it until Eeve/Alisae have posted their thoughts there. If there's anything you want me to go over/elaborate on as well let me know.

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Post Post #2271  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:26 pm

Ya know
once I saw you saying that Arona was a Weak Doc and then say Roleblocker in the same sentence
I was about to suggest we No Lynch but then the roleblocker could just roleblock Arona.

DannyBoy being clear via Cop invest makes sense
However tbh let me throw ya a bone
what do you think of scum claiming WeakDoc?

Also Ascetic could be a scumrole in this case.
Who said the Roleblocker doesn't also have an Ascetic Modifier.
It's also a very safe claim for scum in the event they got hit with a Loyal Cop invest.


pedit: OH MY GOD WALLPOST AFTER WALLPSOT GIVE ME A BIT TO ATLEAST DISGEST THIS SHIT.
I mean I like to wallpost too but shit.

Also atleast I have someone to talk to so thanks for that :]
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Post Post #2272  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:28 pm

Also
I will never
ever
ever
read 91 pages of a full game
if anything I'll probably just read ISOs or ~something~
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Post Post #2273  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:31 pm

I mean
there's also the theory that Arona could just be lieing about being a weak doc
I mean like
how do we know there is a roleblocker in the first place?
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Post Post #2274  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:32 pm

Arona is never fake here for a few reasons, a) He's pretty obvious town for how he's played, b) The manner he bread-crumbed his role doesn't come from scum and c) If Aronas scum that means this setup is 10-3 with the town power being Loyal Cop, Macho Neapolitan, Asceitc v Roleblocker + 2 Goons which uh, yeah, no. That's not something that's ever going to happen. Existence of Aronas role fits perfectly with LUV's and Arona claiming before any sort of mass-claim occurred just seriously never means he's mafia here. So yeah, you can drop that Arona = scum theory completely. We're also never no lynching.

I'm the ascetic, not Arona and I'd claimed I softed it before any claims occurred whatsoever this game and hard claimed it within ~2 minutes of GreyICE claiming while I was at work, can go and take a look at the context behind it but should be blatantly obvious from it that I'm town. And existence of an Ascetici is to minimise the chances of LUV/GI's role getting clears N1 to make the game autowin, just an ounce of logic and setup speculation pretty much confirms me as town but my play should do so as well. Literally a case of going Eve->You or You->Eeve wins the game 100% of the time.

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