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64 - I don't get this RVS arguement whats going on. I mean the syncronization stuff sounds interesting but dunno why it's being brought up this early because it seems pointless right now, but tbh I don't see it coming from scum. A bit to awkwardish in a sense.Spoiler: Eevees
111 - Okay this kinda feels really towny tonally. Mostly because in the tone, I get this feeling of them feeling offended and it just sounds towny to me. Like it sounds like they were offended by what Mulch said imo.
127 - Yeah, I feel like this post comes from town 99% of the time and scum would not even bother. Defending continues to play off Eevee being offended and hating Mulch's attitude.
233 - tbh, this kinda feels like a SvS interaction about a scumbuddy. I don't think this is something that is every really re-visited by Eevee and I don't really remember Eevee bringing it up again.
299 - This kinda seems towny to me. Mostly the stance on not having any strong reads (mostly because I sympathize) but I feel like if they were scum, they would atleast be trying to do something or attempt to provide something here. Like, this just feels honest here. And the Mulch read I can understand given their interactions with mulch just by reading their iso.
303 - This reasonability sounds like it is coming from town.
-Contiuing to read their iso is a bunch of questions but from memory no real recollection of attempting to revisit those questions or being interested in those questions-
603 - Lol Third Parties. This sounds kinda scummy tbh since if there is an SK, wouldn't it be better to just buddy them? I mean, ReplacedIn would know since they're oh so much better then me at this game.
607 - This sounds like, really towny and like it just does. I don't think scum Eevee says this here.
663 and 667 - Okay, this just feels very town tonally. It just does.
671 - And this just feels very fake.
813 - This speech about teamwork and stuff also just feels like very town. I think scum!Eevee would just let town go do it's thing or whatever.
-Contiuing to read their iso is a bunch of questions but from memory no real recollection of attempting to revisit those questions or being interested in those questions-
2233 - This kinda sounds really fake but tbh, I really just don't think scum would bring this up. But Eevee, what did make you think to bring up Supersaint right now?
I'm kind of flipflopping here. There are points in Eevee's iso that sound really fake, and points where they're asking questions but I don't buy they care about the answers. But there are other points where it's like "Yeah, I don't feel like scum posts this" and because of that, I kinda think Eevee is town.| here.GTKAS-
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Alisae a couple things about me 1) i think out loud sometimes, and sometimes it ends up being fakeish sounding posts because of it, thats kinda where the ss thing came from.
2) I ask questions for 3 reasons A) For the record B) for myself to reflect on C) because its for the whole of town, sometimes im that person who asks questions no one else wants to ask/thinks of asking. Its NAI most of the time.Show-Lord Giratina-
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Eeve, would like a response to towards the above questions. If you're someone that 'thinks out loud' would like your unedited thoughts on the game right now too.In post 2270, ReplacedIn wrote:Eeve, I need you to really start running me through some of your read progressions throughout this game and explain what you specifically were doing to actually move this game towards a win because your content post-D1 is pretty non-existent, your stance around Massive isn't great nor is your attitude on the FF v Chickadee situation. So if you're town here a few things I want you to explain are a) You suggested you weren't as confident in Mulch being town yesterday, obviously that's incorrect but I want to understand why you were thinking that, b) I want you to explain your stance on Massive in that you scum read him but didn't vote him on two consecutive days until forced to nor did you really assist him attempting to get him lynched, if you thought he was scum where was the commitment behind it, c) Run me through what you thought "learning there's a roleblocker" actually gained us on D2 since that was part of your reasoning behind voting FF there which is pretty ??? in that mslynching to learn a scums role isn't the way to go about it and lastly d) Run me through the "meta" you had on MMM that made you think he was town, this is a question I've asked you previously and got no answer about so really want you to spend a bit of time and explain to me where your head was at with him.-
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Okay I get that but like
the reason why I'm emphaizing on the fact that you're asking questions and not caring about the answers is mostly because that looks like scum faking scumhunting skills.
and in my ISO what I'm seeing is
Step 1. Ask Question
Step 2. Not coming back to said question.
What do you think of my interactions with the Regfan alt? And why did you bring up the supersaint stuff again?
I mean
according to the Regfan/ReplacedIn alt, one of {Regfan, Me, you} Has to be scum since he has no intention of considering Arona and Danny is cleared via cop.
So assuming you're town, me v Regfan has to be a SvT yeah?| here.GTKAS-
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In post 2270, ReplacedIn wrote:Alisae, really need some real transparent-posting from you if you're town here given LMK had pretty much zero content before he replaced out and Frogger didn't have any participation on D2 and limited one on D3 so it's a fairly empty slot for the most part with some of the few things it's done (LMKs reads wall, Froggers lack of help getting Massive lynched and turnaround on FF) not being great, the latter example something I really think makes plenty of sense coming from mafia in that the timing of it happening after Arona was cleared feels like scum knowing their options are being closed in on them. Know there's not really anything you can to do answer for Frogger or LMK's actions so regardless of the actual alignment you've replaced into it's not an ideal situation but what you can do is actually show some genuine analysis/thoughts/reads while you're catching up, so if you're town here just focus on scumhunting.
Eeve, I need you to really start running me through some of your read progressions throughout this game and explain what you specifically were doing to actually move this game towards a win because your content post-D1 is pretty non-existent, your stance around Massive isn't great nor is your attitude on the FF v Chickadee situation. So if you're town here a few things I want you to explain are a) You suggested you weren't as confident in Mulch being town yesterday, obviously that's incorrect but I want to understandwhyyou were thinking that, b) I want you to explain your stance on Massive in that you scum read him but didn't vote him on two consecutive days until forced to nor did you really assist him attempting to get him lynched, if you thought he was scum where was the commitment behind it, c) Run me through what you thought "learning there's a roleblocker" actually gained us on D2 since that was part of your reasoning behind voting FF there which is pretty ??? in that mslynching to learn a scums role isn't the way to go about it and lastly d) Run me through the "meta" you had on MMM that made you think he was town, this is a question I've asked you previously and got no answer about so really want you to spend a bit of time and explain to me where your head was at with him.
iDannyboy/Arona, wouldn't particularly minding you guys going through and taking a look at Massive<->Eeve and Massive<->LMK/Frogger interactions for us to bounce off about/discuss sometime soon but would prefer you guys not posting your analysis and thoughts on it until Eeve/Alisae have posted their thoughts there. If there's anything you want me to go over/elaborate on as well let me know.
A) I admit i was a bit biased there mb.
B) I don't think i ever stated a hard scumread against massive
C) Its an old saying i used to use whenever conflicts arose in cses/semicses inspector>inspected unless one is more clearly town then the other or we don't have room to lynch them both.
D) MMM is salty, ALOT, especially as town which made me think he was more of a frustrated town there. Its playermeta which i despise although it can be useful.Show-Lord Giratina-
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Eeeve, if you're town I need tounderstandwhy you were thinking what you were thinking so help me help you, so what specifically made you biased to thinking Mulch might be scum? You had a scum read on Massive in Post 1864 but you didn't really help get him lynched at any point, like what happened with your read on him? Can you backup this MMM meta that you used, like got a link that made you feel that way at all that I could take a look at?-
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In post 2304, Alisae wrote:Okay I get that but like
the reason why I'm emphaizing on the fact that you're asking questions and not caring about the answers is mostly because that looks like scum faking scumhunting skills.
and in my ISO what I'm seeing is
Step 1. Ask Question
Step 2. Not coming back to said question.
What do you think of my interactions with the Regfan alt? And why did you bring up the supersaint stuff again?
I mean
according to the Regfan/ReplacedIn alt, one of {Regfan, Me, you} Has to be scum since he has no intention of considering Arona and Danny is cleared via cop.
So assuming you're town, me v Regfan has to be a SvT yeah?
TBH you both seem town to me although i scumreaded BOTH your subs which puts me in an ewwy position here.
Supersaint was me thinking about setup spec and like a fool i asked it here, but similarly i could have asked about a bunch of other possibilities there.
The interactions between you two are Mindsetted town vs freethinking town but either can be scum which is zzz i honestly can't chose one over the other but if im forced to choose i'd say you for ur subs but then again replacedin is a vet and could have easily manipulated town for a while now.Show-Lord Giratina-
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Eevee you should treat us both like we're at equal skill level.
Yes, Regfan is a vet, but some people (nancy most specificly) tell me a lot of the time I have a good scumgame for ~reasons~
I don't get her but ok.
But yeah
Regfan is probably miles better at me at this game. And that's not me even trying to be an ass about it that's just praise.
I will say this though
Fro99er has a very strong scumgame as well. We're site BFFs and we get paranoid over each other's play because our town and scum games are both really strong.
The only times that I witnessed him losing as scum is in House of Harmony, where I nailed him (but couldn't lynch him because he's REALLY good at making himself look obvtown) and in Railgun which I modded and he conceded because I decided to give town a Loyal Bulletproof Vest inventor and that was just a bad role to design on my part.| here.GTKAS-
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Let me see what I can attempt to make out of Bomberman and ReplacedIn's ISO.
Also I kinda like your response when it comes to the Supersaint stuff, because really I feel like you're just trying to tell me that you're being helpful.| here.GTKAS-
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In post 2306, ReplacedIn wrote:Eeeve, if you're town I need tounderstandwhy you were thinking what you were thinking so help me help you, so what specifically made you biased to thinking Mulch might be scum? You had a scum read on Massive in Post 1864 but you didn't really help get him lynched at any point, like what happened with your read on him? Can you backup this MMM meta that you used, like got a link that made you feel that way at all that I could take a look at?
Mulchs attitude is one i dislike.
My read on massive was up and down and i wasn't that confident in lynching him
And i can't really link you anything since PS! Is chatroom based so there isn't really anything i can link.Show-Lord Giratina-
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While I do that, can you explain to me what you didn't like about Frog's play?
Me being site BFFs with Frog is that we're really strong when we sync up together.
We're siblings afterall.
Like
he is my favorite person to hydra with when I do hydra with him.
Our hydra is even called Siblings Quarrel because when we first met in HoH we got into a big fight and it was okay we love each other now.
(Also we aren't really siblings, we just like to call each other siblings)
My point is
I know a bit about my sib's play.
So I'm in a unique position where I CAN offer insite there.| here.GTKAS-
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Also random fact about me: i love cute fuzzy kitten defense, personally my favourite gambit.Show-Lord Giratina-
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Have you seen people use it before?
I don't really recall anyone using it off the top of my head, but I feel like I'm crazy enough to have pulled something like that off in one of my scumgames and do it sucessfully.| here.GTKAS-
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You're going to need to elaborate a little more then this, what specifically do you town read of Aliseas play recently? What did you scum read about Frogger/LMK, same question in regards to me/bomberman. Like I need to see that this is a genuine thought from you rather than you just fencesitting as scum.In post 2307, EeveeLution Army wrote:TBH you both seem town to me although i scumreaded BOTH your subs which puts me in an ewwy position here.
Supersaint was me thinking about setup spec and like a fool i asked it here, but similarly i could have asked about a bunch of other possibilities there.
The interactions between you two are Mindsetted town vs freethinking town but either can be scum which is zzz i honestly can't chose one over the other but if im forced to choose i'd say you for ur subs but then again replacedin is a vet and could have easily manipulated town for a while now.
Like unfiltered thoughts from you here are appreciated.
Okay, talk with me about what made you unsure on Massive being mafia because that's not really documented inside your ISO.In post 2310, EeveeLution Army wrote: Mulchs attitude is one i dislike.
My read on massive was up and down and i wasn't that confident in lynching him
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LolIn post 2314, ReplacedIn wrote:You're going to need to elaborate a little more then this, what specifically do you town read of Aliseas play recently? What did you scum read about Frogger/LMK, same question in regards to me/bomberman. Like I need to see that this is a genuine thought from you rather than you just fencesitting as scum.
Like unfiltered thoughts from you here are appreciated.
It's a towny fencesit.
Like
He's just not sure at the moment.
I'm trying to prod him as well and try to figure out what he's thinking but tonally I feel like Eevee just doesn't know what to go with atm.
I buy via tone that he genuine doesn't know which side is more townier atm.| here.GTKAS-
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I dislike massive amounts of cussing unless i'm used to the person cussing alot. Personally i hear enough cussing Irl, online is my retreat i would like cussing to be as little as possible.
Although his push on arona was eh and his example spam post wasn't the best, its a weak setting for a scumread but it makes it so its less of a townread.
Right Now its not whose more scum to me its whose less town.Show-Lord Giratina-
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Eevee can you show me the posts where you talk about Massive again?In post 2316, EeveeLution Army wrote:I dislike massive amounts of cussing unless i'm used to the person cussing alot. Personally i hear enough cussing Irl, online is my retreat i would like cussing to be as little as possible.
Although his push on arona was eh and his example spam post wasn't the best, its a weak setting for a scumread but it makes it so its less of a townread.
Right Now its not whose more scum to me its whose less town.
Why do you think his Arona push was eh?| here.GTKAS-
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His reasoning on arona seemed like he thought arona was bad town more then scum yet he still voted him at one point....idk if that makes sense to you as much as it does meShow-Lord Giratina-
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Can you tell me the posts that make you feel that.
Because here is what I am seeing (and I like what I am seeing)
At the start of his ISO, I see something when looking at, I strongly agree with by play (not by claims).
Frog going straight to attack that post and to pressure Arona seems a lot like how he would pressure his reads as town which is
Vote and come out with a strong push
proceed to hunt while pushing.
That's just how he's doing it.
With what he's saying, I somewhat agree.
By announcing a guilty you're essnetially forcing a 1v1.
Lynching out of that 1v1 can end up in failure because scum isn't going to kill the 1v1, they'll kill outside of it.
If you have a 1v1 like that, you're most likely going to have scum in that 1v1.
So distracting from the 1v1 to push town!FF is really scummy.
Also the way he went back and forth between Arona and Massive really screamed town!Frog to me, mostly becuase that's just how he plays as town. He's really all over the place jumping from lilly pad to lilly pad because he's a frog.| here.GTKAS-
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Also Frog spamposts a lot
he has to because that way he'll make sure he feel comfortable when approaching the game.
He also hates being scumread especially by bad reasons so if he doesn't spampost, he'll think he's playing different and the change has to do with alignment.| here.GTKAS-
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