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Btw nothing's crossed the line so far in this postgame but just in case as probably my last modly reminder to you this game, please avoid shitting on players (or reviewers or backup mod; shitting on the mod is okay tho)--constructive criticism is good and is encouraged but it absolutely should be constructive since postgame is a place for positive feedback and commentary. <3
(This is my way of saying, don't make me moderate the postgame. )-
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EeveeLution Army Mafia Scum
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Tbh the giveup was a bit of a bad play it wasnt gg yet. Although i an see why alisae did it, i was trying to hide my read there until i votedShow-Lord Giratina-
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Lil Uzi Vert Survivor
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Also btw mastina did you change avatars midway through the game?Show-Lord Giratina-
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Hey you can't get manipulated if you don't reach out to other players. /sIn post 2440, GreyICE wrote:Eevee/idany:You were both very recognizably town, but I feel like you could elevate your play a bit. Dany, you did some decent analysis, but you tend not to reach out to other players. If you think someone is town try working more with them. You aren't locked into a read, and you need to work together to win. Eevee, I feel like you were just flying on gut most of the time. I think you could benefit from sitting back and reading things more.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll keep that in mind.-
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EeveeLution Army Mafia Scum
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The gut thing is a bad habit from PS! Cause alot of people don't take a huge amount of time into creating posts and normally it would be at the start of day.Show-Lord Giratina-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Multiple times.In post 2455, EeveeLution Army wrote:Also btw mastina did you change avatars midway through the game?
I started with my favorite avatar, switched soon after to the avatar used for the speakeasy user popularity contest, transitioned from there to the sketch I intend to make my next avatar when it's fully colored (still working on that), then had some fun when implosion ran a filter on my avatar which I decided to use, but then caledfwitch blew me away with this absolutely amazing drawing which left me stunned, so it just DEMANDED me use it until such a time where something better could be produced. (Which is a long ways away. )-
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Oh, who are you there? I'm NitroNerd.
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Alisae lolbalance
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EeveeLution Army Mafia Scum
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I am a good artist but i can't do art on the internet has to be paper pencil marker canvas and paint @mastinaShow-Lord Giratina-
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EeveeLution Army Mafia Scum
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I should actually make my avatar here one of my paintingsShow-Lord Giratina-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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I just wanna know who you are ;;-;;
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Alisae lolbalance
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EeveeLution Army Mafia Scum
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Rip painting too big to be an avatarShow-Lord Giratina-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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I thought you said you didn't want to deal with the pastIn post 2468, Alisae wrote:No I'm a loli-loving normie-murdering SK
That's what Cabd told me anyways.<Embrace The Void>
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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1873 also had that.In post 2460, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Just realized. Another game that ended without reaching a 100 pages!
1900, however, in spite of having a vig (and therefore THEORETICALLY being a shorter game) was rather the opposite.
Incidentally, this marks the third mini normal in a row where I've had the game end on Day Five.
Overall, I'd say that's a reasonably decent time for a game to end and is loosely my approximate balance goal for a game: something not ending too soon (i.e., one team sweeps), and yet isn't going to go on forever either. (That'd be pretty hard to do in a mini normal anyway but even if I could encourage a gamestate like that and even if the players could create a gamestate like that, who the fuck would ever want to? )
For what it's worth I still maintain that the town's roles were over-valued. Not so strongly over-valued where I wouldn't give the scum defense against them. Maybe not even where I'd have the nonconsecutive roleblocker! (I was willing to move on that for good reason: while my sense of balance tends to bereasonablygood, I am not omniscient and thus I am not perfect so I do accept reviewer feedback when it comes to slight adjustments like that.)
...But enough, where I wouldn't call the game townsided. The game was swingy--outlier situations with the power roles could lead to a ridiculously townsided/scumsided game. When you craft an investigative-heavy game, heavy swing is literally unavoidable; it's impossible to make an investigative-heavy gamewithoutit. But in most outcomes, in the middle ground of what would most probably happen in the game, each faction had a loosely equal chance to win, depending on the exact night actions and the exact dayplay backing them.
I typically do not design around "what ifs" where a faction uses perfect actions and/or the opposite faction uses the worst actions. Those outliers are outliers for a reason: they are unlikely to happen. Which is why I didn't have a problem with the "what if the town gets three innos on N1?": yes that was possible. It was not exactly probable. (Especially given that on N1, the scum have two methods of stopping the three vital PRs from a pool of either 9 or 10 players. If a mislynch occurs on D1 and no PRs are outed, the mafia have a 2/3 chance of stopping at least one PR between their nightkill and their roleblock, because they have a pool of 3/9 which they can target twice within. Plus there's the chance of claims narrowing it down even further. Per Ascetic/VT claim, the pool decreases further. If anything the opposite was what I was concerned with, the mafia simply shutting down the town's power altogether between a full-roleblock and a nightkill.)
I design primarily around the middle ground, assuming neither optimal nor sub-optimal night actions from both factions--where average play is used rather than stellar play/shit play. And what we got this game was exactly that, average play rather than stellar play.-
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