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/confirm

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Great overlord Sarcastro:

may I shorten Great Overlord Sarcastro to mod?

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Hooray. we're all here.

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vote: lovo

for being the last to confirm.

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Have we all random voted?

FoS: ryan

(would be a vote but he has 3 as far as I can tell)

That's a complete myth of day 1. There is no reason for the "random vote stage" to take place at all. Once any sort of useful discussion happens, it's done. It doesn't matter whether that's before any "random" votes are placed or after everyone has "random voted" multiple times.

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And you're gonna FoS me for asking that question? Seriously? Come on now.

Seriously, I'm going to FoS you for that question. And I explained why, also.

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Hey, I arbitrarily voted too, I'm perfectly fine with doing that, but there's still a reason for it, so it's not truly random.

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No, it's not random, it's arbitrary, and there's a huge difference between the two, but that's a topic for mafia discussion, not here.

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That's not what I said at all. Now you're just twisting my words.

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I think the early stages of the game can be useful, rather than just a way of joking around for 2-3 pages. We can't just ignore everything that happens there by saying that "it's the random stage" and not everyone should be expected to be "random"

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*bump over locked threads*

MBF? I understand this if it was your first random vote, but this doesn't really make that much sense.

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Meh, well. SlySly's response is a bit iffy to me. He doesn't appear to be questioning it at all, which I find rather strange.

UA seems to be acting slightly hypocritical, since he

always

votes for himself to start out a game, from what I've seen. I'm not sure whether his post was supposed to be funny or not though. I understand a joke post, but one with a vote is rather strange.

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unvote, vote: Super God King

I hate it when people show up to say that they've been busy and don't see anything.

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Everyone seems to agree that nothing has happened. The MBF self vote and the ryan/hasdgfas dispute over the random stage is all that is remotely noteworthy. But even those are trivial.

But you don't have anything to say? I don't believe that. Make something to say.

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First off, eljcko, lovo's vote didn't count, since there's not a bolded "Vote"

Also, do you have a problem with me voting SPK for his statement. That statement leads to active lurking, which is scummy.

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But coming in just to say "I don't see anything" is even scummier than fabricating things out of thin air.

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its more of a day 1 style

after day 1 i am much more active in leading disc etc. chasing leads.

unvote, vote lovo

You do it after day 1, so why can't you do it day 1 as well? I always find the "I'm always like this on day 1" excuse to just be total crap.

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Maybe MBF is just a newb

X

FOS:MBF

for the possible use of color coded messages of scummery.

Not even close, that's a sign to say "no you're totally wrong about that."

FoS: SlySly

for one of the stupidest FoS uses I've ever seen. Why are you FoSing him for no good reason? This isn't the first page anymore. We're past the "let's joke around" stage.

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You're right Sly, I wasn't in that conversation, so all I saw was you overreacting to the very common large red X that is used to mean 'Wrong' every time I've seen it.

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You've got to be joking me, Sly. You call that a defense?

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@ hasdgfas
i play the same in every game i play its just wat i do...i generally dislike the whole day 1 thing...try and stay out of it...pop in once a day see how stuff is. i can provide u links if u really want....

Then I'm happy with my vote.

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@lovo84: It's not that we want a quicklynch of you, it's that you're playing scummy and we want you to contribute. Whether you play like this all the time or not, it's a terrible playstyle. If you can contribute after day 1, why can't you contribute during day 1?

now i can def guarantee there is at least one scum on my bandwagon...i suggest cop investigate one of those.

This is not good either. You're saying you're sure that there's at least one scum on your wagon, but the only way you could know that is if you were scum yourself. You're also, in essence, OMGUSing everyone on your wagon. While "OMGUS" is not always a scumtell, the way that you're doing it makes me think that you simply want others to die. In addition, you're attempting to direct the cop that you don't even know that we have. Don't direct power roles. That's scummy.

I do want to hear from people who have mostly been quiet to this point before too much else happens.

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and i know my role, hence i can pretty much guarantee that a scum jumped onto my wagon....

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Unless you're a scum, you don't know whether a townie or scum has jumped onto the wagon. Townies can be suspicious of other townies, you know. We don't know your role, just your behavior.

i am not omgusing everyone on my wagon hence i never layed a vote. jsut a big FOS.

Right, but you don't need a vote for it to be OMGUS. If you show suspicion of someone for the sole reason that they are voting for you or are suspicious of you, that's OMGUS, and unless you have a concrete reason to be suspicious of them, it's scummy.

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right, but you need a reason to suspect them. you can't just say that you suspect them for no reason, whether you vote them or not. A FoS needs a reason, just not as much of one as a vote needs. I'm not twisting your words at all, lovo. You're just acting scummy.

Roy Campbell, eh? Please elaborate for those of us who might not have a large knowledge of the comic/game. (I know who he is, but others might not)

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lovo, first off, calm down. There's no need for the type of response in 191.

@UA: Where are you getting that Roy Campbell info from? Because this game is based on the comic rather than the games as a whole, and in the comic he is the leader of FOXHOUND.

While I'm not totally sure that campbell is scum, and it's a shame I can't read your mind to find out whether you're lying or not, I'm not sure whether or not the leader of FOXHOUND would be vanilla. He may be an idiot in the comics, but I'm not sure whether he would be vanilla since he's still the leader.

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All right, I reread a few of the comics and Campbell seems like a possible choice for a vanilla.

Unvote, but IGMEOY

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I am having trouble following your argument of how you would be more active tomorrow than today, because as a vanilla, how would you have more leads tomorrow than today?

In other words...Since you claimed vanilla, what kind of leads would you chase on day 2 that you don't have today?

I want to see an answer to this question as well.

If it's not answered satisfyingly, I

will

revote as the claim really wasn't great, it just made some sense.

I also want more evidence from UA then "Roy Campbell is scum guys"

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well if you read back in the thread (i think it was in this thread i argued with you that day 1 is useful to seee who jumped on bandwagons where..you learn at least 2 people's roles (well should)

What?

and for example....pretty much everyone beleives my claim cept avalon??

Could you explain what this has to do with anything?

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vote: lovo

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yes im vanila and not heaps useful but there are better lynches

Then help us find them

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lovo, the reason that we're still voting you is because you're acting scummy with a vanilla townie claim, neither of which help you.

Now you say that you suspect the people who keep voting you after your claim? That's complete and utter OMGUS and crap.

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Braaaaaiiiiiiiiiins. And Coffee.

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As a scum whose partner was an idiot(even though I could day and night talk to him), I really think that this game was a disaster for just about everyone.

Can we get everyone's abilities? (as I assume they had some, since I did and it wasn't revealed)

I would guess JD killed me night 1, but did anyone think I was actually scum Day 1? I'm curious.

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I was a rolename cop and could talk to eljcko at any time, even after I "died" once.
I wanted elj to claim that the day he got lynched, but he never showed up and made me angry.

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What I've decided to do with prods in my game is give them a certain number they're allowed per day and max allowed for the whole game (I think 3/5 was what I chose). It tells people what you expect for activity and

doesn't

shouldn't get them mad at you for getting replaced when they knew how much they needed to post.

Also, actually having a deadline would have been nice. 2 month days without a whole lot of activity are no fun. BTW, sarc, I don't think it's just your fault, because most people just weren't posting. It really ticked me off because I died night 1 and therefore wasn't able to be part of the solution to the inactivity. Anyway, I'm glad it is actually finished, even if I think it was a cheap win for the town.