Mini Normal 1921 - Town Win

[Alchemist21]

Day 4 Votecount

gerrryoat(2):

Transcend, GraphicDesignPassion

Transcend:

gerryoat

Not voting : projectmatt, Creature, BlackVoid, TellTaleHeart, Impoetic

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-07 23:21:00)

[TellTaleHeart]

VOTE: gerryoat

[Creature]

VOTE: gerryoat

L-1

[Creature]

Now if someone wants to end the day...

[Creature]

Should I take this as "scum not wanting to hammer"?

[Creature]

If you don't want the day to end, then atleast bring something.

[BlackVoid]

Waiting on projectmatt's analysis.

[Alchemist21]

Day 4 Votecount

gerrryoat(4):

Transcend, GraphicDesignPassion, TellTaleHeart, Creature

L-1

Transcend:

gerryoat

Not voting : projectmatt, BlackVoid, Impoetic

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-07 23:21:00)

[Alchemist21]

gerryoat and Impoetic have been prodded.

[GraphicDesignPassion]

could someone hammer please

[gerryoat]

can you just hammer me. idc.

[Impoetic]

I was waiting for everyone to be satisfied ending the day.

[Impoetic]

Part of the reason I'm hesitating against this concensus Gerry lynch is that his interactions with Dunker felt like Dunker was trying to appease/pocket him. Gerry spent D1 saying Dunker was scum and Dunker scumread him. But when Gerry changed track D2 and started tunneling Transcend, Dunker immediately tried to get his support by townreading him back in 2574. Although that points more to Dunker trying to enlist a town-Gerry to help him mislynch a town-Transcend so I could be wrong on Transcend even.

that's not a townread that's "if transcend flips red he's green and vice versa I guess"/"I thought he was scum before but I kinda don't think so anymore"/not color-coding his name when everyone else is green or red and putting him smack dab in the middle of the tier list, implying a nullread. That's still most likely not something dunker would do with a partner since he was singled out as the -sole- nullread and the wording was a little weird. In general, if I had to make one guess as to gerry's alignment I'd

probably

say he was town.

but I don't, and I really don't want to leave him alive when even he doesn't want to be. His behavior is fairly weird and i don't see a better option.

[Creature]

"wow I townread my buddy, town will assume pocketing"

[Impoetic]

he didn't townread him, but that's also a possibility and not the main reason i feel like this lynch is going to flip town (though I'm not sure, obviously)

[projectmatt]

Sorry for the wait on analysis! I worked most of the day yesterday and all day today. Here are some thoughts:

Dunker's posts honestly do kind of point toward Gerry possibly being scum. In particular, from #2526 from #2564, Dunker put a "pressure" vote on Gerry and then backed off incredibly quickly, citing him as "not a viable lynch".

He said this in his reads list:

7. gerry uh basically lurks and prodges which is ok i guess. i don't think he's bussing transcend so if transcend flips red he's probably town and visa versa. i thought he was scum earlier but i kinda don't think so anymore.

which is exactly how I would expect scumDunker to treat Gerry - basically a "null idk maybe scum" read.

Re: Transcend

Honestly, the only viable candiate I can figure out for scum is likely to be Transcend, there's this:

you guys most likely can't kill anybody this game without risking a guilty or another conf town, so you're fucked anyways.

ok then, we lynch transcend. when he flips scum, we powerlynch you tommorrow. if he flips town (which he won't) you get your lynches in pjm and I

deal or no deal?

along with that, the last few posts before Dunker got lynched are sort of telling - he was riding really, really hard on getting Transcend lynched, in a way that honestly makes me feel like it was a "lynch my scum buddy to save myself" sort of gambit

Along with that, I might have been wrong about my read on Graphic. Dunker's interactions with him are actually really hard to paint as a scumteam - in particular, Dunker townread Graphic really hardcore and defended him through most of the game. I'm almost positive that a somewhat new player like Dunker wouldn't try to buddy his partner so hard and so obviously. It doesn't seem likely to me.

I think BlackVoid and Impoetic are town.

If I'm being honest, I did a readthrough of Creature's ISO and it honestly pings incredibly, hilariously null to me - but I can kind of cautiously townread him partially because he sincerely thought that me and Boon were T v T, and I find it hard to believe that a scum wouldn't try to jump on a fight like that and instead withdraw completely. I think calling them scum would be a big case of overthinking, TBH.

Anyway, I really can't see a feasible end to this game that doesn't involve one of Gerry/Transcend being scum, and I'm comfortable with Transcend being jailed if Gerry would somehow flip town. I'm ready to hammer now if everyone else is.

Sorry for stalling the game.

[BlackVoid]

Okay, that's fair enough. Let's hope we're right on Gerry.

VOTE: Gerryoat

That should be the hammer. I'm good with Transcend getting jailed if this is wrong.

[Alchemist21]

Day 4 Votecount

gerrryoat(5):

Transcend, GraphicDesignPassion, TellTaleHeart, Creature, BlackVoid

Lynch!

Transcend:

gerryoat

Not voting : projectmatt, Impoetic

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-07 23:21:00)

gerryoat has been lynched! He was a

Vanilla Town

.

N4 begins now!

Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-01 20:51:00)


Reminder that if all living players request to end the Night early I will do so.

[Alchemist21]

TellTaleHeart has been killed. She was a

Town Jailkeeper

D5 begins now!

Day 5 Votecount

Not voting : projectmatt, Impoetic, Transcend, GraphicDesignPassion, Creature, BlackVoid

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-15 21:13:00)

[Creature]

Okay, Impoetic and Transcend are locked town, I am town. That leaves Graphic, Black and projectmatt.

[Creature]

Still think BlackVoid would avoid bussing D2.

[Creature]

Hmm, did BV ever attempt to bus someone?

[Creature]

Leaning on last scum being Graphic.

[Transcend]

aaaand congratulations. i'm an IC.

so is impoetic.

tth made it oh so VERY blatant she was jk but whatever.

[Transcend]

i'm just kinda pissed that gerry wasn't scum but whatever.