Micro 735: Greater Idea (Day 2 Begins)

[Creature]

Could you elaborate on this? What about the timing struck you as odd, and what made you think it was scummy?

I was talking about Chickadee here, and I felt that scum wouldn't rush to "clear" me.

[Creature]

Checking your iso it seems this next person was WhyMafia. Can you explain your scumread here?

Again, it's mostly that I found WhyMafia to be the most suitable player to wagon (as others didn't seem). I can't really point what's scummy about him other than feelings.

[Creature]

Does this mean your read on him was null, or scum? If null, why does that deserve a vote? If scum, what made you think that?

Null-scum. Even if he was null, sometimes I would treat nullreads as scumreads if I had multiple townreads.

[Creature]

You're no good, I can't see you you just lurk, lurk, lurk
I'm waiting - for the lynch
Oh, the deadline is looking to end
Only deadline you do lynch you just lurk, lurk, lurk
Deadline lynch's paradise
Only deadline you do lynch

You just lurk, lurk, lurk

[Creature]

[vonflare]

creature plz

[Srceenplay]

I'm sorry. Out drinking today. So semi prodg dodge

[Keychain]

creature plz

this

@Creature

: Everything game relevant you have said recently has been in direct answer to a question. That's too easy. So this is a direct invitation to be more proactive. I'm trying not to ask a question, since that's what you've been coasting off.
So in your next post. Say something

useful

that wasn't explicitly asked for.
(please)


Though yeah, lurkers need to get back here. Sparkles and Vax appear to have dropped off the face of the earth. WM's not so bad though, and Srceen's prodge was so early it was more of a V/LA announcement.

@Kairyuu

: I've gone back and read through your posts (this is indeed a thing I try and do). There is at least one instance of you saying something I was thinking before I did (regarding Creature's activity, that Chick was townreading him off, being mostly empty), which suggests it's probably that I respond faster than you. You're right in that we don't agree on everything.

But you don't seem to be engaging with me as much as I'd expect. You townread me early on for having similar reasoning, but to be honest there's been very little evaluation of what I've said beyond that. Like at all. I can see a tiny little bit in 146, maybe, but I'd expect more, considering the questions you've been posing to others. Can you explain?

@Chickadee

:

You've entirely avoided my actual question to focus on an opinion I expressed alongside it. Once again, how would adding to Keychain's wagon at the time make a player appear to be scumhunting? This is the crux of my issue with your post.

This line of inquiry just doesn't interest me. I'm having trouble staying focused on it, because it bores me so much.

???
I mean, yeah it's not a great question, but what is this response??

What am I being defended from precisely? WhyMafia wasn't even addressing me. He asked me a question yesterday, which I also answered yesterday, and was then addressing Vax today.

My point was really more that Keychain hadn't been addressed at all.

If we only speak when spoken to, this game will never happen. Sounds like it could be fun though as a mechanic - everyone starts off with a statement and then must address a question to one other player. From then on, people can only post in answer to a question, before posing a question of their own.

Basically I thought WM's behaviour was scummy so I went after it. I didn't think I needed to be addressed to be allowed to do that.

But in case that's why you've been standing off to one side, I'll address you:
You are not voting anyone currently, and you've also never voted anyone, and you also haven't really taken too much of a stance at all and we're more than halfway through the day. We need a lynch. Who is your top pick for scum, Chick? What about town?

[Creature]

Say something useful that wasn't explicitly asked for.

If you mean making giant walls, forget it.

[Keychain]

Nah. Nice try.

I can think of a number of posts as short as three words that I'd be happy with. No walls necessary.

Go on. Offer a game-relevant opinion.

[WhyMafia]

Does this mean your read on him was null, or scum? If null, why does that deserve a vote? If scum, what made you think that?

Null-scum. Even if he was null, sometimes I would treat nullreads as scumreads if I had multiple townreads.

So why do you town read others? You're complaining about so called "lurkers" yet you've just skated by

[Vaxkiller]

Its the weekend im reading up geez i got a family

[WhyMafia]

I'm referring to posts 135, 136 and 137 in response to my 134, not sure what you're talking about? I mean I realise I was slightly wrong with my half hour thing, your post was actually two minutes outside, but I wouldn't call that a blatant lie.
And an active game is a good game for everyone. Do you really think people gave me towncred, when you did the opposite?

I mean you said that in response to my comment. Why would you care about being scum read by your own scum read? Seems fishy, as if you know I'm town. You'd have had to forget that there are other anti-town factions though .. which might've happened considering you skipped mafia goon.

[WhyMafia]

Please address my case against vonflare. I feel he is quite scummy and have posted my detailed reasoning as to why. If you have a townread on him then that would imply you don't find my case to have merit, and I'd like to hear why.

Currently it's just gut as I said earlier, I can't really put words to it yet sorry

[Vaxkiller]

I'm sorry. Out drinking today. So semi prodg dodge

Post while drinkign

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia's 140 includes a comment that I'm interpreting to mean that he thinks rereading is a waste of time. This seems very strange to me. Are rereads not a thing anymore?

Why did you not directly ask me this? I ask you what caused you to make this assumption.

[Vaxkiller]

Why mfai (since your hear) is vonflar=town a meta read?

[Vaxkiller]

Oh god the spelling

[Vaxkiller]

Its like a 5 year old wrote it

[WhyMafia]

Indeed, here we are, with this great discussion going on
My goodness I'm a serial word twister / misrepper, my apologies. What I mean regarding not discussing Kairyuu is that I found Vax's question to be so unrelated to your question - like the only thing it had in common was that it also mentioned Kairyuu's super long post, it wasn't even addressed to you or Kairyuu - that it seemed that you were trying to shut down that topic.

I mean I had said I was waiting for Kairyuu's response to give myself more of an understanding if it's scummy, then Vax basically goes and asks someone else if it is and why. It just pinged me as scummy in correlation to Kairyuu.

Do you think that you found Kairyuu's response towny because of Vax's interference? Like Vax actually did give Kairyuu an out? If so, your reaction makes a lot more sense.

It just seemed weird that Vax did what he did. Something to be noted if one person flips. The response itself seemed towny for tonal and gut reasons. I'm not sure of what to make regarding Vax yet

@Kairyuu I realize what you meant now. Re-reads are of course a thing, but I felt that there was plenty of new content to be discussed, and that going back to why I dropped my light push on you seemed a waste of time/a way to slow the game, especially as I viewed the reason as obvious

[Keychain]

@Creature: Everything game relevant you have said recently has been in direct answer to a question. That's too easy. So this is a direct invitation to be more proactive.

I'm trying not to ask a question, since that's what you've been coasting off.

So in your next post. Say something

useful

that wasn't explicitly asked for.

(important bit bolded)

Say something useful that wasn't explicitly asked for.

If you mean making giant walls, forget it.

(Creature dodges)

Nah. Nice try.

I can think of a number of posts as short as three words that I'd be happy with. No walls necessary.

Go on. Offer a game-relevant opinion.

(Keychain follows up)

Does this mean your read on him was null, or scum? If null, why does that deserve a vote? If scum, what made you think that?

Null-scum. Even if he was null, sometimes I would treat nullreads as scumreads if I had multiple townreads.

So why do you town read others? You're complaining about so called "lurkers" yet you've just skated by

(WM asks question of Creature, thereby giving him an out)

@Vax why did you ask Von this when I stated in the previous post that I was waiting for Kairyuu to answer? It gave him time to see what others thought about the wall and post something that would look good. FoS

(remember that time when WM accused someone of interfering with something)



Friend
Do you realise what you haff done


Also

I mean you said that in response to my comment. Why would you care about being scum read by your own scum read? Seems fishy, as if you know I'm town. You'd have had to forget that there are other anti-town factions though .. which might've happened considering you skipped mafia goon.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here - like what do you mean, scumread by my own scumread? - but do you think I'd point the multiball setup out to Srceen if I'd forgotten it myself?
Though I suppose I could have remembered it, since it did happen in 139 whereas you're talking about something earlier.
Basically I don't quite understand this post, do you mind rephrasing it?

[Srceenplay]

[vonflare]

guys can we lynch keychain now

[Srceenplay]

Let's just lynch whymafia

[vonflare]

Damn auto correct on phone.

Whymafia is the vote

I didn't like their posts.

Von is ok for now but Whymafia is still solid scum.

Whymafia saying he's tempted to hammer doesn't sit well with me as something a town would say.
His explanation for the funnies sounded fake.

Let's just lynch whymafia

so your case is

Whymafia saying he's tempted to hammer doesn't sit well with me

this seems to me like grasping at nothing, like you

want

to find a reason to scumread him. I mean he didn't

actually

hammer, it seems like a reasonable thing to joke about at that stage in the game. Is there any other reasons why you think he is scum that you have not yet vocalized?