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[Eddie Cane]

thor, I have a reason to believe wave might be town. who should I vote if I change votes?

[Eddie Cane]

wave, I'm intentionally ignoring you for now jsyk

[Thor665]

thor, I have a reason to believe wave might be town. who should I vote if I change votes?

Dunkerdoodles.
Brilliant examination of "who does Thor think is scum" it's hard to tell since I'm voting him and over half of my posts this phase are about him and how I think he's scum.

[Eddie Cane]

I am reading. I also can see scummerdoodles, but, and having never played with him before, he is also the exact kind of player scum would push to mislynch. Tell ya what. give me one post that sells me on voting him. quote previous stuff and all, your best points.

[Thor665]

So you're town and think we're lynching town and not your top scumread, and all you do is ask, "oh hey man whats ur thoughts?"

As long as you ignore where I or wave before I got there have poked holes in the case on him, yes, that is all I'm doing.
You LITERALLY just got done whining about how I summarized your wave case and suggested it didn't make sense, and then dropped discussing it with me.

i think hes sheeping, hes null or just nullscum.

He has happily switched his vote multiple times, and as we discovered yesterday between two town wagons (or from my view three) with no actual connection in reads.
He offers no thoughts of his own (an issue you claim to have with me, though you're applying the tell rather unevenly)
And he doesn't engage over anything (another of your claimed issues with me, even though I've pointed out how it isn't)
And all you do is null/null scum him?

Why so soft on a lurker slot with an apparent desire to offer nothing but opportunity votes?

@rb
also @Eddie just to, y'know, allow you to *squint really hard* and maybe you can spot a push on someone I think is scummy? Derpa-derp, amirite?

[NotTheRealPaul]

my head hurts (its 5 am and i need to wake up in 2 hours}.
i'll answer latee.

[Game Replacement]

I'm MM4. Is that enough reasoning

Oh look Mario's in the game! \o/
Should I push you as Scum now or tomorrow?

[Eddie Cane]

but where do you go when dunker is a mislynch?

[Thor665]

but where do you go when dunker is a mislynch?

Why say when after claiming you can see him as scum?

When he's a mislynch I would probably asses the wagon on him and look for connections between it and the wagon yesterday, and would also consider the counterwagon and any night action resolution to reassess my reads with the updated info and come up with a new prime scum target.

If you can fill in some more of the theoretical in the above I will happily offer you a more defined take on who I would press tomorrow.

[Thor665]

Or are we just jerking you off here?
It feels like a jerk job going nowhere fast.

[Eddie Cane]

because him flipping scum doesn't require discussion right now. it's about worst case scenario. you have enough experience that you should know basic things about the game you seem to not.

[Thor665]

Okay...

And you got my answer, and as someone with experience you fully understand that's literally as much of an answer as you can receive because there are far too many other variables at this stage of the game to make much of a prediction - and you also did nothing with the answer.

[Thor665]

At least when I ask "nitpicking" questions I seem excited to comment on the answers.
#caseonmeisderp

[rb]

Thor are you:

1. godlike level frustrated by this game and therefore derping all over the place
2. scum

[frog]

frog, I asked you to justify town wave because your reads are backwards and you manage to have him as town. show me that. you have the power prevent a mislych. use it.

wavemode is my shakiest townread, and the lean comes from a small number of posts I like and the fact that I think four other players are scummier than they are (although Flavor Leaf might be promoted soon). You aren't exactly asking their best advocate to defend them, and I haven't even yet managed to read all of rb's case post.

Wait what I was memeing do I have to take this game seriously

I mean, it isn't RVS and we don't want to go back there

thor, I have a reason to believe wave might be town. who should I vote if I change votes?

Alright, I'm glad I didn't expend the effort

Or are we just jerking you off here?
It feels like a jerk job going nowhere fast.

He's asking you for a scumread you both agree on, how do you not see that

[UnaBombaH]

Frustrated with this game?
HERE!
Scum?
THERE!

I have nothing to say.

[Thor665]

Thor are you:

1. godlike level frustrated by this game and therefore derping all over the place
2. scum

I'm #3 - godlike frustrated with the game YET STILL TRYING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DERPS REGARDLESS.
Both you and Eddie keep asking me to do/provide things I'm already doing, and when I do them again/link them you just immediately drop the conversation chain like it never existed making me wonder WHY THE HELL YOU EVEN ASKED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
It's not even like you're calling me scummy for my answers, my perception is you're going 'oh, yeah, that is a reasoned and sensible response, but I *have* to call Thor scum because [derp] so I can't address that, so I'll drop it and then just post a joke and ignore him for another 24 - I'mma town gawd!" and it's really stale by now.

He's asking you for a scumread you both agree on, how do you not see that

I see that I provided info I had already given that he didn't care about to discuss.
I see that instead of discussing my scum read he instead decided to debate theoreticals.
I see that upon receipt of theoreticals he did nothing with them.
I see that it has, thus far, been exactly a jerk for nothing.

Why, what progress do you see him making with my answers?
I'll wait.
I expect this conversation to be dropped like a wet blanket because you're scum empty poking me for no purpose over something that you're not even ascribing a tell to and that I've thus far been proven correct in predicting - please feel free to thrill me and take this comment anywhere thus proving me wrong. I could really use a change of pace.

[NotTheRealPaul]

idrk what to do about this thor-eddie/rb situation

ive been tring thor since the first argument.

[frog]

I see that I provided info I had already given that he didn't care about to discuss.
I see that instead of discussing my scum read he instead decided to debate theoreticals.
I see that upon receipt of theoreticals he did nothing with them.
I see that it has, thus far, been exactly a jerk for nothing.

Why, what progress do you see him making with my answers?
I'll wait.
I expect this conversation to be dropped like a wet blanket because you're scum empty poking me for no purpose over something that you're not even ascribing a tell to and that I've thus far been proven correct in predicting - please feel free to thrill me and take this comment anywhere thus proving me wrong. I could really use a change of pace.

Clearly my tone did not come across as I intended. My comment was not intended as shade, or 'poking', or whatever; I just perceived that this was a chance for some co-operation with a slot you read as town (am I correct here?) which I thought you dismissed prematurely. Where you saw 'theoreticals', I thought that was his way of asking for another scumread that you might have been able to discuss. Nothing more. I cannot predict what might have or might yet come of it, but surely discussing information and reads is good? It at least had the

potential

to be useful.

[frog]

Sorry, thor, I am genuinely not trying to anger you.

[rb]

It's that thor's annoyance extends way beyond what makes sense. He has dunkers as his only scumread but is apparently too annoyed to entertain a world where Dunkers is town, "yeah I'll look at the wagon when we get to it"

There's 3 scum, some kind of doubt is reasonable and it's a red flag to me that not only does Thor have only 1 scumread, he's really not trying to cooperate.

You can blame someone else but Eddie and I have both gone to lengths to engage him and he just acts like it should all be self-evident. His pushes are weak, he makes a few points on Dunker then drops it, stating over and over "I've made my points, what else should I do?"

As if it means nothing to him to look into who else might be scum, try to work with his townreads etc. He just nitpicks at the stupidest shit constantly then gets annoyed when people ask him to do stuff with more impact, or says, "I've already said it"

[UnaBombaH]

@Thor: I can see you are frustrated with Eddie and rb banging their heads against a tunnel-wall, but are you able to scumread them?
Or do you still honestly think it's two townies barking up the wrong tree?

[rb]

At this point I think Thor is just putting it on because yea, he has zero reason to be pissed off at frog

[rb]

@Unah I've tried to make a dialogue with Thor a number of times this day phase tbh and he returns to the same shit

[rb]

VOTE: Thor

I want this slot dead now. I don't see this as town