Mini 1937 ~ Girls ♥ Girls 2: Mini's Apartment ~ Endgame

[Prism]

Feels more like a gambit than them actually pondering anything. (Should I claim this? When? How to do so? Soft or hard claim? All things to discuss with the hydra partner. Possibly done pregame, but for now going to doubt it.)

that's really strange considering you supposedly have your niche that seems to need precise play. (Don't grill me on language here, doing my best paraphrase and I realize that's not quite on the mark) I'd expect you to either readily come out with it to begin with or to have discussed exactly how the early claim will go, and neither of those things seems to have happened.

[Prism]

The only thing you've said is mastina didn't talk to her hydra partner about claiming something and that is in no way AI.

Don't think it is. [not AI]

[Ginngie]

So scumtina only gambits off the cuff and towntina sets up claims way ahead of time with meticulous.

Yes or no?

Stop fucking quoting yourself and talk like a normal person please.

[Prism]

Yes, I am 100% sure of mastina's alignment based off of this single thing alone, having played with them a grand total of once and having never paid much attention to her during that time.

[Heartless]

ginngie, what's your read on mastina?

[Ginngie]

I honestly dont get the sarcasm.

I obviously don't understand what you're thinking here.

P-edit: Too early too tell, gut says prob town

[Heartless]

interesting

what else does your gut say?

~ I'm hungry what to eat. ~

[Prism]

I honestly dont get the sarcasm.

I obviously don't understand what you're thinking here.

I think a gambit setup (scum) is marginally more likely than a legitimate soft (town). That is literally it. My first guess after reading the first 2/3 pages. Specifically, I think the off-the-cuff response to Heartless immediately giving some loose detail is more likely to indicate the former (scum mastina trying something with quick "ok" from jae) than the latter (mastina/jae having talked out exactly how to claim). Neither of them could be true. Town Mastina might just have gone with it.

This is a first pass, not me knowing the ins and outs of mastina's mind, not me deathtunneling mastina.

This is a toss it out, let's see where this goes and what people's reactions are to it deal.

You got quotes because a page of asking shit I've already answered is exactly what I didn't want.

[Prism]

Disagreeing with me is fine, voting me is fine.

Ignoring all of my explanations claiming I hadn't explained it, when I clearly did so, annoying as hell.

[Ginngie]

interesting

what else does your gut say?

That milk doesn't agree with me

~ What kind of milk, though? Cows milk: ew ew. Soymilk: meh, gassy, good for cooking or heated. Almond milk: big yes! Coconut milk: circumstantial. Rice milk: water... ~

[Prism]

Actually this is largely my fault for getting annoyed in the first place when I really shouldn't be, so I'll apologize.

[Ginngie]

Actually this is largely my fault for getting annoyed in the first place when I really shouldn't be, so I'll apologize.

I could have made it clear from the start I didn't understand, could have said that I wasn't understanding you over saying you didn't explain anything.

So same apology to you, I don't know if you know this, but I've actually been trying to not be a yell monster like I used to be.

[Prism]

No worries. Is there anything else that you don't get/do you find my thought process implausible?

To Heartless, why the Ginngie vote?

[Heartless]

yeah...... ok

usually when town claim neg utility like i thought mastina was attempting to do in 48, it's to boost EV by suggesting a clear action for how to deal with the neg utility. you claim hated so that no one accidentally hammers you at l-1. you claim supersaint so that if you get lynched, everyone else makes someone scummy hammer you. you claim pgo so that no one targets you. you claim miller so that cops don't investigate you.

mastina didn't do that so it's just kinda awkwardly hanging out there and the implication is that the purpose of the claim was in fact to make a full claim later look more legit (which both town and scum do) and i could see someone being skeeved out by that (because i kinda sorta was at the time too). i don't think prism's thoughts at this stage of the game are unnatural.

i do think you're making too much of a show of being on mastina's "side" here (insisting the claim is strictly nai) and i think your aggression on this angle is a little forced

[Ginngie]

No worries. Is there anything else that you don't get/do you find my thought process implausible?

To Heartless, why the Ginngie vote?

Not really and I'm just gonna be rereading to see whats up.

What I did get out of this tho, is that our back and forth reminded me of myself and RC when we played in Spyro:
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=70313

I'd be RC and you would be me in that game, where I just assume something is common knowledge and the the whole shebang.

Also within in game relations, not wanting to pick a fight and instead trying to put water under the bridge makes me feel that it's a town move as it pushes towards cohesiveness instead of being divisive


UNVOTE:

[Kmd4390]

Ginngie, what made you say you could see camn as scum?

I don't like prism's vote on Notice. I see it the opposite way of what prism sees. I don't see the scum benefit to basically putting a "vig me" post it note on your own back. It sounds more like town who saw a negative utility role PM and is just putting it out there. Prism's vote just looks like an attempt to jump on whatever they can and possibly a chance to get some more info about someone's role.

Vote Prism

Also within in game relations, not wanting to pick a fight and instead trying to put water under the bridge makes me feel that it's a town move as it pushes towards cohesiveness instead of being divisive

Or wanting to keep attention away...

[Ginngie]

Or wanting to keep attention away...

Here's the difference.

Prism wasn't afraid to explain their point of view.

The only thing he didn't instigate was himself feeling annoyed.

If he accused me of something and I started to argue a point, and he then apologized and backed off from what he was thinking, then you'd have a point.

However, it is literally about him apologizing for getting annoyed, not about his opinions on the game.

[Ginngie]

Ginngie, what made you say you could see camn as scum?

I feel like nancy would make a scumbutt a hated slot due to the previous game, she made common town roles, scum roles.

So a NU like Hated would be good for scum to counter the norms.

[camn]

Outguess the mod works sometimes?

[Prism]

I don't like prism's vote on Notice. I see it the opposite way of what prism sees. I don't see the scum benefit to basically putting a "vig me" post it note on your own back.

1. Do we always assume a vig is in a mini theme?
2. Stretch on my end, I don't think aiming to dodge a vig shot was her intent, but mastina made it clear that it was only negative utility if a single other role existed. AKA, probably not actually negative utility. Just devil's advocate, I don't think mastina was thinking "Oh I better dodge a vig shot" at all.

Prism's vote just looks like an attempt to jump on whatever they can and possibly a chance to get some more info about someone's role.

First part, definitely, I'm not a fan of social hour. Second part I think you're missing part of my point: I don't think she was selective enough about giving it out.

And yes, kmd is right, scum have incentives to not get into

[redacted]

slapfights too.

[Ahsoka Tano]

Hi people!
Why am I already on people's lists of scum of I have not posted here yet?

[camn]

Too busy scheming in your scumtopic.

General bias against posting early as scum.

~ All my mod PTs are scum PTs... and I've been scheming for months! ~

[camn]

theoretically, that is.

[Prism]

As a heads up, I won't be online for the next 24 hours. Will be back at some point 8/10.

~ Fun fact: Girls ♥ Girls 1 involved zero prods. There were replacements; Imperium was actually *due* for a prod at one point (51 hours without posting) but I was asleep and didn't prod them; no actual prods sent out all game. Kiiinda doubt we're going to see that this game but who knows. ~

[camn]

I'll miss you.