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[iDanyboy]

Votecount 1.6

• Cloudkicker (3/7):
  necro, Tchill13, Fykus
  
  havo (2/7):
  IgnitionUSMC, CloudKicker
  
  BlueBloodedToffee (2/7):
  Backhand, Sofiel
  
  Jordarrian (1/7):
  lovelife
  
  Necro (1/7):
  Hopkirk
  
  Tchill13 (1/7):
  BlueBloodedToffee
  
  
  Not Voting (3):
  Jordarrian, Havo, Robbnva.

Mod Notes

• With
  13
  alive, it takes
  7
  to lynch.
  
• Deadline: (expired on 2017-08-21 21:13:58).
  
• Robbnva
  is V/LA this weekend.
  
• If you spot any errors in the vote count please let me know.

[CloudKicker]

How is drawing attention to oneself something that is more a scum agenda than town agenda

[Robbnva]

drawing attention is scummy, but it's actually not alignment indicative, but when you add in how little you are doing to help progress the game and not really scum hunting not to mention refusing to explain yourself especially when asked, it adds up to probably scum

[lovelife]

neither of those things are good reasons to scum read somebody. I don't think he was serious about the wagoning somebody. Sheep voting certainly isn't scummy and it definitely isn't alignment indicative.

VOTE: jordan

are you high or misremembering?

I was voting jord before I changed to havo, jord was my top scum read and I was pretty much pushing on him before you made your case on him

That's all you've had to say about Jord all game. I don't think this is suspicious on its own (why I didn't really subscribe to necro's push on you), but if you're going to claim you've contributed a lot to the discussion, that's just wrong and IS suspicious.

in fact jordan's last 4 posts were in direct response to me pushing on him

And you seemed fine just leaving where it's at, no direct response from you and no response to my case against him. Why?

[Robbnva]

yeah post 75 were my original reasons for voting him
I added post 194 and post 203

so in his last 4 posts, I directly responded to 3 of them. I didn't respond to his last one cause I didn't really feel it was necessary to.

I didn't respond to your case because I didn't really feel like I had to since i thought it was good.

[lovelife]

I forgot about those posts, my bad.

[Robbnva]

Saul Goodman

[Tchill13]

I wonder if havo's stunt was to draw attention from jord

Yall said you two have played together before? How comfortable do you think havo is in his ability to make sure he doesn't get lynched? Scum isn't gonna fake a day kill day 1 unless they know they can wiggle out of a lynch.

[Robbnva]

Idk how he is on this site but where we played I always had a hard time getting him lynched.

[Tchill13]

At first I thought Cloud just wanted to rack up votes so he could claim a PR and tell everyone to back off him.
(Well actually at first I thought he was drunk)
Then I thought maybe he is a fool or a Jester. Or a bomb and just wants out.
So I un voted and thought I'd give it some time.
But how is his actions good for or helping town?
Why would you draw that kind of attention to your self?

I can see where the fake daykill is coming from. I don't really have another scum read other than cloud at the moment. Hard for me to believe scum would stick their neck out like that on day 1.

[Backhand]

At first I thought Cloud just wanted to rack up votes so he could claim a PR and tell everyone to back off him.
(Well actually at first I thought he was drunk)
Then I thought maybe he is a fool or a Jester. Or a bomb and just wants out.
So I un voted and thought I'd give it some time.
But how is his actions good for or helping town?
Why would you draw that kind of attention to your self?

I've said this in every game I've played this year: Site meta lets people get away with anti-town shit that shouldn't be tolerated and we'd all be better off with some more policy lynches, or at least the serious possibility of them.

That said, I'm really having trouble seeing cloud coming from a scum perspective on this one.

Can we add like one vote a day to BBT until they contribute?

[Tchill13]

Scum would be better off with more policy lynches.

[Robbnva]

if more policy lynches happened, people may be more likely to give effort in games

[Sofiel]

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
I need to know why you voted tchill - and why should we vote for tchill. + do you have any other views on the game so far?

@BBT

^. Seriously hoping I get an answer to this soon.
I really can't tell if lazy town or bad scum. Either way, anti-town atm and my vote stands.

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@Ignition

. Give us something more solid than one sentence statements which everyone agrees with/can't really rock the boat (see 346 or 347). We're well out of RVS now and laying low ain't doing it for being pro-town, especially with what's going on in thread atm.

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@LL

what do you think of the Havo wagon?

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Also, is having a different timezone and being busy after dinner one day always scum, or just most of the time?

Unless you're on holiday atm I'm pretty sure we're in the same timezone considering our location info.

But that's a fair call - I hadn't really interacted with you before making that post. But I have a thing against players who I feel are laying low, esp. on D1 when it's so chaotic.

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Also ooc but thanks mod & Robb for helping with the bbcode

[Tchill13]

I'd rather the player just be mod killed. I'm not passing up a day phase to lynch scum just because a player doesn't know what they're doing.

[Hopkirk]

Well maybe we got scum day 1. Feels like it at this point.

This sounds off if it's talking about the daykill like I think it is.

yeah, I just don't see what the point of faking a day kill was. It causes unnecessary confusion.

jord or cloud are where I will probably vote but I want to calm down and enjoy my trip and come back with fresh eyes. People say I tunnel too much so let me step back

Nobody seemed to take it seriously enough to justify describing it as overly confusing.

@Fykus, Necro, Cloud, Ignition, and Lovelife: Can you answer the stuff I asked you? Necro especially since ignoring me after voting.

@Sofiel: Most of the posts happened while I was asleep, which is why I mentioned timezones. Some happened while I was awake, but I was busy.

Vote Tchill13

Will move back to Necro if not responded to.

[Fykus]

Sorry hop can you quote what you asked please?

[IgnitionUSMC]

UNVOTE:

I voted for havo because of the fake day kill and gave my reason with my vote Hop. (Vote #309 - Here )

Lol then vote me pussy

Nah, why vote you when I can just do this.

DAYKILL CLOUD

Faking a daykill is scummy

VOTE: Havo

[IgnitionUSMC]

UNVOTE:

[IgnitionUSMC]

Im pulling my vote back off because at this point we need to either just wagon someone. I've also been extremely busy at work and Im just not used to this fast of a game pace from where I came from.

If you want me to list my scum reads... honestly im not sure at this point. But i agree with Tchill on id rather save my lynch for lynching mafia, then policy lynches followed by a night kill by mafia. At least give town a chance to lynch mafia

[Backhand]

Im pulling my vote back off because at this point we need to either just wagon someone. I've also been extremely busy at work and Im just not used to this fast of a game pace from where I came from.

If you want me to list my scum reads... honestly im not sure at this point. But i agree with Tchill on id rather save my lynch for lynching mafia, then policy lynches followed by a night kill by mafia. At least give town a chance to lynch mafia

I'm unaware its an unpopular opinion but everyone likes to pretend towns are better at getting mafia day 1 than they really are (plus sometimes the policy lynchees are actually scum)--also, don't worry! Things have been moving quickly in terms of posts, but deadline is still 11 days away. We don't need to feel at all rushed.

[necro]

I think cloud is just as likely scum as town. 50/50 is good odds on day1.

I'm fine with lynching BBT as well as Jordarrian actually. Jordarrian was talkative while being voted, now that pressure is off them they're very quiet. It seems to me like a scummy thing to do because the focus is more on clearing themselves than solving the game.

Happy lynching either of these 3 at this point.

[necro]

Well maybe we got scum day 1. Feels like it at this point.

This sounds off if it's talking about the daykill like I think it is.

yeah, I just don't see what the point of faking a day kill was. It causes unnecessary confusion.

jord or cloud are where I will probably vote but I want to calm down and enjoy my trip and come back with fresh eyes. People say I tunnel too much so let me step back

Nobody seemed to take it seriously enough to justify describing it as overly confusing.

@Fykus, Necro, Cloud, Ignition, and Lovelife: Can you answer the stuff I asked you? Necro especially since ignoring me after voting.

@Sofiel: Most of the posts happened while I was asleep, which is why I mentioned timezones. Some happened while I was awake, but I was busy.

Vote Tchill13

Will move back to Necro if not responded to.

What posts am I meant to be responding to? As far as I can tell the reason you're voting me is that I wasn't voting robb? I don't get it.

[CloudKicker]

I think cloud is just as likely scum as town. 50/50 is good odds on day1.

I'm fine with lynching BBT as well as Jordarrian actually. Jordarrian was talkative while being voted, now that pressure is off them they're very quiet. It seems to me like a scummy thing to do because the focus is more on clearing themselves than solving the game.

Happy lynching either of these 3 at this point.

Can you explain better your 3 scumreads please. Whats the scum agenda behind my play, why 50/50 and who might be my partners?

[necro]

What's there to explain about BBT?

You're actively refusing to give information or cooperate, and your reasons for why you are town are just circular. You do X behaviour then declare scum would not do X behaviour. It's nonsense, any scum could just say that.

Jordarrian I just explained? He was here and responding to pressure, but when pressure dissipates he doesn't seem to share thoughts. I find it scummy because town are usually just trying to figure out the game and scum sometimes will let the activity die down and only become active when pressure is on them.