Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[xyzzy]

On a scale of 1-10, how bastardly do you want the game to be (10 = evil)?

Pretty evil! I'd say at least an 8 or 9, though I wouldn't mind an 11. I mean, come on, if people are /inning for this to up their win/loss ratio then they're stupid.

On a scale of 1-10, how complex/unbalanced are you comfortable with roles being (10=lol)?

"lol" - especially if they're open to interpretation

Rank these themes, in order from best to worst:
3. Existentialism
6. Pokemon, Digimon, & Harry Potter
5. Things that don’t make sense
4. Historical Disfigurements
2. Authority Figures
1. Literary Characters

I promise nothing, theme-wise. I might be asking about these themes solely for my enjoyment .

o rly?

Any other themes you might want to see come into play?

Letting dead people discuss limited aspects of the game would be really nifty as an experimental game mechanic, or even non-players. Plus, it'd add to the chaos.

Any specific roles/types of roles you want to see in play?

Teh funneh ones.

Any game mechanics?

Already stated.

Want lots of flavor?

YES

None?

I want people who answer "yes" here to be modkilled

I may completely ignore this, but any public expectations you have for this game, make them known here, and I'll ignore them, or if you are lucky, take them into account .

I feel lucky

[xyzzy]

hasdagas

lol!

[xyzzy]

modkill DGB for being DGB

[xyzzy]

The Mod will pick a player to Modkill.

'fraid it's gonna be me.

That's what we're hoping.

[xyzzy]

The Mod will pick a player to Modkill.

'fraid it's gonna be me.

That's what we're hoping.

Alright then, you all have a fun game without me. It's going to be more difficult of course, but I understand why you'd want to challenge yourselves.

lol!

[xyzzy]

good point.

vote: cicero

Bandwagon to victory!

[xyzzy]

Hey everyone.

I'm a 100-shot day role cop.

Guess what I found out? I'm Nabby's scumbuddy!

Aren't I useful. Also, why is cicero still alive?

[xyzzy]

ooooooooooooooh

okay, so we need to lynch me during the day and nabby at night. but not until we lynch cicero.

[xyzzy]

You forgot to unvote, though I think I like that wagon more.

We can lynch Guardian after we lynch me.

[xyzzy]

hmm...

unvote, vote guardian

[xyzzy]

Guardian is at lynch-1.

Someone hammer him.

[xyzzy]

sweet!

Now we can lynch me.

[xyzzy]

ban: xyzzy

[xyzzy]

I propose a massclaim at some point. We'll lynch whoever has the most normal role.

Actually, that could be a little dangerous. We don't know what Guardian is planning... >.<

[xyzzy]

Interesting. I'd like to point out that I referenced a massclaim as something to consider, that *might* be of some use. I think we should eventually mass claim, but the reaction to the idea is interesting. Not right now, though. This discussion is interesting.

[xyzzy]

XYZZY RETURNS FROM LURKERVILLE

...sorry about that, I had some RL stuff that was interfering with my mafia play.

To be honest, I think a name claim could be useful. Of course, we shouldn't do it immediately - anyone with that notion is dumb. When do you think we should do it, people? I personally think late day 1ish. Shaft.ed, if you're a double voter, then I think you should vote early, so that if you're scum you can't easily hammer wagons. Do you all agree? Or you should refrain from using both votes... Maybe the mod is just screwing with us. >.>

[xyzzy]

I don't believe this claim at all.

Flavor?

[xyzzy]

shaft.ed, a claim like that is extremely unusual, and knowing the rationale behind the rolename fitting the role will help us know if he' telling the truth.

Also, Xtoxm, stop quadruple posting and start thinking about what you want to say before hitting submit.

[xyzzy]

I hope that nobody brings this up as an example of scum coaching jr. scum.

...No, it's honestly extremely annoying.

[xyzzy]

Adel, you have a posting restricton in

life

? That's awesome.

[xyzzy]

...It's the way the claim was made that was weird, and the fact that it was sans flavor. Even things that don't make sense will have some...

sense!

[xyzzy]

Adel seems rather protown now.

[xyzzy]

Adel is town. Fakevigging is a towntell. I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town, now, too.

[xyzzy]

If Adel is scum then who do you think Adel's buddy is?

[xyzzy]

Hey, Adel, a request like that is really unethical and breaks the spirit of the game. Stop.

So did I lose my vote?

[xyzzy]

I was sure I was voting.

I'm gonig to vote someone random just to be sure.

Vote: Lawrencelot

[xyzzy]

Oh, right, I never was voting.

Unvote.

...I'm

sure

I was voting... odd.

[xyzzy]

hunch

vote: xyzzy

(sorry vollkan)

Why?

[xyzzy]

People with post restrictions are generally barred from saying they have one.

[xyzzy]

I've already name claimed, but if you'd like me to again...

I'm the Triforce of Wisdom. I'm a mystery role. Don't know what I do yet.

By the way, this is exactly how Adel played in Open 59, where she was town, day one. I don't think that's coincedence, as it's kind of unusual Adel play.

Cicero is sending out protown vibes. Rogueben's wagonning seems scummy.

[xyzzy]

EBWOP:

Guardian, would you be okay with a "when did you receive a role" claim?

[xyzzy]

...

...

I am really confused. And not entirely sure what to be thinking. >.<

So, is it twilight? Some sort of a night? Is Rogueben alive or dead? Is Pikachu really annoying?

[xyzzy]

We should mass name claim. I'm sure scum have fake claims, but now seems like an appropriate time to do so. Any time today will work. Then we can full claim tomorrow or later.

[xyzzy]

which literate person hacked into Xtoxm's account and started posting in this thread?

I almost want to sig this.

shaft.ed, what is this about a roleblocker?

[xyzzy]

The thread just got locked for like 30 seconds. Odd.

[xyzzy]

I'm pretty sure I'm some sort of post-restriction-giver - I targeted shaft.ed.

Flavor-wise, it makes more sense that a role such as Snape would have gillyweed - it's been a while since I read Goblet of Fire, but wasn't he the one who had it, and then Dobby gave it to Harry? In context of that flavor, Neville makes much more sense as a doc.

...Then again, this

is

things that don't make sense. >.>

[xyzzy]

But just because he knew about it doesn't mean he had access to it.

...This is getting really geeky.

[xyzzy]

I'm pretty sure I'm some sort of post-restriction-giver - I targeted shaft.ed.

Why target is me?
Not who it's supposed to be
Nibbler makes great tea

I don't want xyzzy
to miss this post that I made
Nibbler is quite brave

xyzzyz post a lot
but not in this thread of ours
Nibbler has full lips

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

[xyzzy]

"so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your

alignment

"

please explain this a little more.

I felt that if I was some sort of investigative role, that it would be generally good to target him, if I was some sort of protective role, if I had a killing role of some sort, that the info to be gained would help the town, and if I was anything else, then there was really no way to make an informed decision.

People who suddenly take interest in someone are good targets.

[xyzzy]

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

Who is your proper
target via role PM?
Nibbler is astute

I have target too
Ours is supposed to be same
Nibbler has straight teeth

xyzzy I don't like
you avoiding my questions
Nibbler has big balls

shaft.ed, if you won't stop being incredibly vague, I can't help you. Are you saying you have some sort of requirement to target the same person as me or something?

[xyzzy]

My role doesn't reference anything occuring when I target Link.

shaft.ed, which Triforce are you?

[xyzzy]

EBWOP: I think cicero is the 3rd triforce. Just a hunch, though.

Also, could you reread your role, shaft.ed, and confirm that your role references you targeting Link?

[xyzzy]

Hi. I was without interwebz access all week. shaft.ed, I'm too lazy to figure out what question you're referring to, so could you please re-ask it?

[xyzzy]

he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?

I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast

xyzzy, why push for
a massclaim without target?
Nibbler reads real fast

I do not get your
motivation for massclaim
Nibbler has huge arms

Because having a triforce role lets me confirm 3 people, including link.

[xyzzy]

he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?

I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast

xyzzy, why push for
a massclaim without target?
Nibbler reads real fast

I do not get your
motivation for massclaim
Nibbler has huge arms

Because having a triforce role lets me confirm 3 people, including link.

and there is no way one of those three would be a safeclaim, no way at all.

...Sure, if my role didn't state that there are players with the other 2 triforce roles.

[xyzzy]

I've long suspected cicero of being the third triforce.

Are you? In fact, cicero, you should claim.

[xyzzy]

I believe Adel. So that means para is lying.

vote: para

[xyzzy]

I was a doctor, eh? Well now I'm just confused

[xyzzy]

I sent the following roles to Guardian in PMs with subjects such as "my role for the Designer game you are running" in the weeks before the game began, in the hope that he would give me one:

Xyzzy's role

Congratulations, Xyzzy! You're

Eric Wu

, of emotioneric.com. Each of your posts must contain no less than two emoticons, and at least once per day you must post in all caps. If you fail to use emoticons, you'll lose your vote for the rest of the day, though it will still be displayed; only the actual lynches will possibly change. If you fail to have an all-caps post any day, you'll be listed the next day as "commiting suicide due to pent-up anger." At any time, you may say, " I QUIT! YOU GUYS ARE STUPID!!!!!!! " and you will immediately be "treestumped" - that is, you'll become an unkillable, unlynchable player who can't vote who is confirmed town and can continue posting. You may also at any time say "I just HATE you, <playername>, why don't you just die? You're so retarded.", and <playername> will die. This is a one-use action.

Xyzzy's role

Congratulations! You are

Peyton Farquhar

, of Ambroce Bierce's "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge". The thing is, you're pretty good at avoiding death - in your head. Any time you die, an Alternate Universe where you lived will be made, Farquharwith a new thread. All roles and other information will be exactly the same, and you will be alive. But there is a drawback - if you die more than two times, you'll finally come back to your senses and actually die - along with every other protown player. Of course, you're not allowed to claim that information, and if you die, the players will be informed that you are an SK Hydra. You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Xyzzy's role

Congratulations! You are

Adlai Stevenson

, long-dead Illinois governor, twice-failed candidate for Presidency, and... Gogo?!?

That's right - you're the mimic from Final Fantasy VI, supposedly rumored by some to be Daryll, some sort of monster from Final Fantasy V, and a previous thief-leader of a... oh, never mind, it doesn't matter, because YOU KNOW THE TRUTH! After all, consider these quotes by yourself: "I suppose I could wear a hat, but them my teeth would fall out to spite me. I could get false ones, but doubtless then I would get fat just to prove my teeth work. The easiest course is to drape my whole body in robes and shawls and hope no one recognizes my eyes," (this perfectly describes your physical appearance as Gogo) "President Eisenhower continues to amaze me. He appears to be an ungainly and graceless man, but when [senator Robert] Taft makes a move, no matter how ridiculous, Eisenhower copies it with the skill of [French mime] Marcel Merceau. I haven't achieved such levels of mimicry with my own party, but I'm working on it," (You are a mimic in Final Fantasy VI) "The legislature is a frightening thing. To this day the state capitol building seems to me a beast ready to swallow me up; the very walls and ceilings seem to crush you as you walk through it," (You were discovered in the belly of a Zone Eater in Final Fantasy VI) "Today we are plunged into a battle that is familiar to us. the enemies and the problems are the same. But the terrain is different. The world around us has changed and shifted so much we no longer recognize it," (You were found after Kefka shifted the world by taking control of the Espers, turning the World of Balance into the World of Ruin).

Now, since you're both a governor of Illinois and a mimic from Final Fantasy VI, you take your abilities from both experiences. During the day, if someone is lynched, you may stop their lynch by PMing me during Twilight (I will give you 24 hours before posting the lynch scene). You may only do this once per player. Also, each night you may mimic the last night action done by someone, in chronological order of when the PM was sent. I will tell you how many, if any, targets you must send. You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Xyzzy's role

Congratulations! You are

Jack Bauer

, and pretty much the most awesome dude ever. ...However, you kind of have some issues in your social life, such as the fact that basically everyone you've ever had a close relationship with is now dead, and the whole torturing terrorists thing. Did I mention you once had a heroin addiction? Okay, so yeah, you're a pretty cool guy on the surface, but you're simply destructive. Every night you can investigate someone AND kill someone, but a random protown player will die if you do either of these things. You are also able to survive practically everything, so you can't be nightkilled, and you can't be lynched. Oh, and you don't win in endgame situations, since even if the President/people of America/yourself are all safe, it's still kind of teh suckzors if your wife/girlfriend/other girlfriend from Mexico/boss/coworker/etc. dies. You win if all threats to the town are destroyed.

Xyzzy's role

You are

Thok, circa 2010

. After being appointed by mith for another term as Title Fairy, you've begun to feel unsure of whether you're doing what's best for Mafiascum. After all, after Jathan, Shea, and JDodge left between '07 and '09, people decided that you (and others) had entirely too much authority. After dozens of users left to form a more open-ended site, you decided to step back and give the people what they wanted from the Title Fairy. However, it did nothing, and you're now unsure of what your next move should be. You may give one player a word they must use in every post or be modkilled each night. You are immune to modkills. You may say, "I think it's time I step down and leave for a while," at any time and you will become a treestump. You win with the town.

There was one other amazing role, but I can't find a copy of it. It was the last one I sent, and the most amazing. I asked Guardian to see if he has a copy, but if he doesn't, I am sorry

[xyzzy]

xyzzy, no offense but you should have spent that time playing. Your sheer inactivity caused you to get lynched.

Oh and I'm very glad to see that I wasn't a roleblocker. I went through the entire game thinking I had blocked the reviver.

Also why did you guys kill NabNab N1 and not Xtoxm?

And how did we not lynch Adel D2 again?

That was all pregame.

[xyzzy]

Xyzzy's Role

Congratulations! You are

Xyzzy

, a member of the Mafiascum community perhaps best known for games that add no real value to the community. But that's okay, because in the months leading up to spring of 2008 you participated in a sweet-action game modded by Guardian, called iPick. Here's the thing, though - you had a role rigged so you couldn't win. But you tried! And it's possible you succeeded - I can't say I remember. But the important thing is, you had the most power in the game, despite having no truly correct way to use it.

You see, the gimmick behind iPick was that the moderator, Guardian, would come up with roles for each player that would be funny and slightly unbalanced. Your role in iPick was

not

one of these such roles - in fact, it was one of several you wrote yourself, chosen as better than such roles as Emotion Eric and Peyton Farquhar, and even Thok. You yourself wrote in the role PM that you thought it was the best in the role, and it was the last you submitted. The thing is, because your roles were so funny and fantastic, you had the power to alter reality with these roles - you could alter the reality of the role you received. So to honor that, you made a role that could alter the flow of the game substantially, while still making it a race to see if you could force a win on yourself.

Your role stated that you could alter the game at any time in any way, as long as no living players died, and no other players entered the game. It stated that you could change rules, or give other players posting requirements, or even giving or taking away role powers from other players. There was just one hitch to all this power - you lacked a win condition, and you couldn't give yourself one. You were unable to win, and you weren't allowed to, say, put a "Xyzzy wins" rule in the game. You had tremendous power, but you were unable to use it to save yourself.

Or were you?