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[RadiantCowbells]

Can't do this vc till later but vc here

[Grendel]

Well I switched to preview mode and my text disappeared >.>

Basically me complaining about claims coming so close to EoD.
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I do think claiming under a lot of pressure is not reflective of newb town power, which tends to be flightily and claim premature to when they need to. HOWEVER, since vigilante has a confirmable kill I'd welcome giving Tchill a shot at clearing himself tonight. Egro I think everybody on Tchill needs to get off him Asap.

@Vecna

If you are town you need to stop being obtuse and get off Tchill. Letting him confirm himself via a second night kill is proper play in this situation. At his point Tchill trying to prove himself through desscuion alone isn't necessary. We are running low on time so vote elsewhere.

[Dark Horse]

VOTE: vecna

Tchill if you're telling the truth shoot assmbler tonight.

Hey Tchill ill make you a deal.

We lynch my target today, you help me convince everyone to sheep me, and if I fail to lynch scum with it, you shoot me tonight. Alright?

After last game you should know my instincts are pretty good when it comes to these things.

Assuming you're talking about monkey here you seem very very committed to a lynch that you said was a "minor feeling that something was up here"

Plus I don't buy the tone shift after the vig claim and tchill's vote.

[Vecna]

Nah im not talknig about monkey

[Dark Horse]

Then who? Monkey's the only other person you've voted

[Vecna]

Anyways, im also a town PR, with a skill that can be confirmed tonight. Good job ringing up another one with shit all reasoning.

Not gonna claim any more to not make it too easy on scum, you'll know more tomorrow.

In case you do end up lynching me - Kort & massive are scum here together. Lynch them next

[Vecna]

Monkey -might- be scum with them, but I doubt itd that inter-connected.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Kort

[Vecna]

Tchill if they do end up lynching me; do believe me when I say that Korts is this game's Vedith. Noone is going to be lynching him anytime soon - give him a bullet tonight.

[Dark Horse]

UNVOTE:

[Ginngie]

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[Vecna]

Shouldve read between the lines Gin - I left you a very obvious hint

[Ginngie]

Shouldve read between the lines Gin

You assume I read.

That was your first mistake

[Vecna]

Youre trying too hard to be a wisdom clone.

You dont quite have the chops to pull it off yet.

[Ginngie]

regardless, I don't think I'm ever going to look for your hint

[Dark Horse]

Vecna what caused your 180 on korts?

[Vecna]

Recent devellopents, and that big read post he put up full with attempts at pocketing people.

Overall he's too busy trying to appear good and plausible over actually really putting in a genuine effort to sort people.

Read for example his justification on his read on massive and you. Complete bollocks. And in the case of massive I highly suspect he's writing it about his scum teammate.

[Dark Horse]

You never explained this

What are you on about? Dark Horse didn't have an Eddie read. The two times he even mentions Eddie is to say that his argument with Robb is clogging up the thread, and once to ask him about his Tchill/Robb reads. So what am I contradicting exactly?

And what fascination? This is the first time I am mentioning your monkey vote. I have reconsidered that point, though. It was a sloppy ISO read on my part that led me to believe your vote didn't align with your suspicions.

[Vecna]

You were suspicious and critical of PS in all your early posts - which is the same slot. Yet he states he has a very strong townread on you because he "felt the same way about pretty much all the stuff you said". Yet it doesnt correspond at all with his reads was my point. Another example of him just trying to state things that he think will sound good and plausible, while if you look deeper they dont really hold up.

And no offence, but do you yourself feel you've stated so many things that were so sensible that a strong townread was warranted? Because I definately dont feel that way. But hey, maybe im wrong and a lot of other people also feel that they can have a strong townread on your slot based on vibing well with your posts. Myself however, I often felt the exact opposite of your statements, so hearing someone state that they agreed with everything you said makes me suspicious.

[Sunlit Diamond]

You were suspicious and critical of PS in all your early posts - which is the same slot.

I just read Dark Horse's ISO and I'm only actually seeing suspicion/criticism in two posts, and then he goes on to critique others for voting PS. Where did you get this from?

[Dark Horse]

What? I only suspected PS at the very beginning. Pretty much when I started voting tchill I stopped thinking PS was scum.

Plus townreading someone because they agree with you, especially in a game like this where there aren't really people who stick out as obvtown, isn't really a foreign concept for town. I know I've done it in the past

[Dark Horse]

Like if anything it sounds like you're trying state things that you think will sound good and plausible, but if you look deeper they don't really hold up.

[Sunlit Diamond]

Why did you unvote Vecna, Dark Horse?

[Dark Horse]

Because he said he was a town pr that could prove his role and I was thinking about giving him a chance. Same thing with txhill

[Sunlit Diamond]

I want to see this flip now. Either im completely wrong and Tchill is scum, or theres something fishy going on with Kort, monkey and massive.

Vecna, do you still believe this? Yes, I know you're voting Korts. Curious about the rest of it, and the nature of this "something fishy" that you see.